பிராமணர்கள் பேசுகிற தமிழ் ஒஸ்தி! ஆராய்ச்

[V.Balasubramani]

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பிராமணர்கள் பேசுகிற தமிழ் ஒஸ்தி! ஆராய்ச்

[h=1]பிராமணர்கள் பேசுகிற தமிழ் ஒஸ்தி! ஆராய்ச்சி முடிவு![/h]பிராமணர்கள் பேசும் தமிழ் மற்றவர்கள் பேசுவதை விட உச்சரிப்பு சுத்தமானது என்று ஆராய்ச்சியாளர்கள் கண்டுபிடித்துள்ளார்கள்.

தமிழை சரியாக உச்சரிப்பது யார் என்று சர்வதேச ஆராய்ச்சி ஒன்று சமீபத்தில் நடைப்பெற்றது. தமிழை சரியாகவும் அட்சர சுத்தமாகவும் உச்சரிப்பவர்கள் பிராமணர்களதான் என்று ஆராய்ச்சி முடிவை வெளியிட்டு அதற்கு விருதும் பெற்றுள்ளனர இந்த ஆராய்ச்சியாளர்கள். தமிழைப் பேசும் மற்றவர்களை விட அம்மொழியை அழகாகவும் மிகச் சரியாகவும் பேசுபவர்கள் தமிழ் பிராமணர்கள் தான் என்று இந்த முடிவு தெள்ளந்தெளிவாகக் கூறுகிறது.

இந்த ஆராய்ச்சியை மேற்கொண்டவர்கள் மூவர குழு. ஒருவர் ஈரானிய பேராசிரியர் மற்ற இருவரும் யார்க்‌ஷயரிலுள்ள ஷெஃப்ஃபீல்ட் ஹலாம் பல்கலைக்கழகத்தைச் சேர்ந்த தமிழ் மாணவர்கள். இவர்களின் ஆராய்ச்சிப்படி, தமிழ் பிராமணர்கள் தமிழ் மொழியின் சிறப்பு எழுத்தான ‘ழ’வை சரியாக உச்சரிக்கின்றனர். மற்ற தமிழர்களில் பலர் ழ என்பதை ல என்றும் ள் என்றும் தவறாகவே உச்சரிக்கின்றனர் என்கிறார்கள் இவர்கள். ஜனவரி 29 ம் தேதி நடைபெற்ற சர்வதேச இந்தோனேஷிய சமூக அறிவியல் மாநாட்டில் இந்த மூவர் குழு சமர்பித்த ஆராய்ச்சி சிறப்பானதாக தேர்ந்தெடுக்கப்பட்டு விருது பெற்றது.

Read more at: http://www.dinamani.com/special_stories/2016/02/26/பிராமணர்கள்-பேசுகிற-தமிழ்-ஒ/article3298170.ece

 

[vgane]

Atleast now the TB's can be proud of Tamil & not feel ashamed to speak in Tamil in public...We can be proud of our lTamil

 

[V.Balasubramani]

VGanesh Ji

You are right.

We can now certainly feel proud and rise our collar for the way we speak tamil language in our day-to-day life.

Researchers Find Brahmins Speak Tamil Better than Most Others

Excerpt:
The research project also focused on Brahmin Tamil in the context of speech-to-text technology. From a research perspective, two issues were considered with reference to speech to text technology in Tamil - the ability to accurately pronounce all Tamil syllables and speak without the effect of code mixing.

“It is in these two context that we feel that the Brahmin Tamil dialect could serve as an excellent example. The community “naturally” speaks a code mixed version of the mainstream language, which is very interesting,” Raj told Express.

The paper concludes that this observation on Brahmin Tamil could be considered as fundamental and important - one that could help shape the requirements of the language based software and technologies.


Read more at: http://www.newindianexpress.com/cit...han-Most-Others/2016/02/17/article3281707.ece

 

[Rangachari Sampathkumaran]

அதிலென்ன சந்தேகம் ? தமிழைப் பிழையின்றி பேசுதலும், எழுதுதலும் நம்மவர்க்கே உரித்தான கலையாயிற்றே ! சஹோதரிகள் பலர் அருமையான கவிதைகளையும் இங்கே பதிவிடுவதையும் காணும்போது கர்வம் மேலிடுகிறது. பரிதிமால் கலைஞர், மஹாகவி பாரதி, டாக்டர் உ.வே.சா., ஆகிய எண்ணிலடங்கா தமிழறிஞர்கள் தோன்றிய குலமல்லவா?

 

[tks]

I feel like an alien talking to a few in Chennai (even TB families) that have fully adopted the Chennai Tamil that sounds so crude

 

[yesmohan]

Brahmins not only speak but also write better Tamil than other communities.

But for U.Ve.SA. Iyer, many of the "sangath tamizh IlakkiangaL" would not have seen the light of the day; perished in palm leaves.

Bharathi had sown the seeds of renaissance of modern tamizh.

There were innumerable TBs who did a lot of things for the cause of Tamizh.

Dravidian parties who started to dominate since 1960s, deliberately undermined the good work done by Brahmins to the cause of Tamizh.

 

[tbs]

hi

many tamil pandits were tamil teachers are from brahmin community.....once upon a time...many tamil teachers are from

brahmin....my father was tamil teacher in panchayat union school...many my family members belong to tamil teachers..

many sanskrit teachers converted into tamil teachers in high school...so its nothing new...

 

[vgane]

My Tamil teacher in my school was a TB pandit....Those from TB who are in other professions and hardly earning Rs 10K per month can try their hands at teaching...It may not be paying handsome..But it will help you live within your means...Simple living ...Will ensure food for your family without any trouble!

 

[psnarasimhan]

பிராமணர்கள் பேசுகிற தமிழ் ஒஸ்தி! ஆராய்ச்

I feel like an alien talking to a few in Chennai (even TB families) that have fully adopted the Chennai Tamil that sounds so crude

I fully agree with you Mr.TKS. At times I even scolded some bramin boys using - vaa machchaan, kutti eppadi, polaamaa, dae avan reel udaranda etc.,etc.,- What have we to do with these rascals though they call themselveds as brahmins. பன்றியோட சேர்ந்தால் பசுவும் மலம் தின்னும்.

 

[CHANDRU1849]

The role of TBs in the development of Tamil is enormous, especially the role played by U V Swaminatha Iyer, an Asthasahasram Iyer. The community has produced some wonderful writers like Kalki, T Janakiraman.

But, 'osthi' is a Sanskrit word.

 

[rishikesan]

In 1940s and 50s all brahmin teachers , esp. in the primary schools treated all students equal & kept direct contacts with their parents
& ensured tuitions with out fees & saw to it that the under privileged improved in education . Such parents invariably respected those Bramin teachers like Gods .A large number of dravidians in those days , respected brahmins & is is all due to selfless
We Brahmins , by nature are helpful. that is our strength .

RiShikesan ( A.Srinivasan)

 

[Raji Ram]

The title of this thread reminds me of

Source: Google images

 

[krish44]

I had brahmin tamil teachers in a school dominated by my community in delhi.

I speak brahmin tamil mostly only corrupted by a few hindi words and a slightly different accent which might make people think I am a chennai gujarathi or marwari.lol

I admire Bharathi, kalki, T janakiraman, Sujatha rengarajan, Indira parthasarathy. The last named happened to be a school tamil teacher in my school.

But I have not been corrupted by chennai language which I detest.

I love tanjore tamil.

 

[renuka]

I feel like an alien talking to a few in Chennai (even TB families) that have fully adopted the Chennai Tamil that sounds so crude

Kasamalam is Chennai Tamil and has Sanskrit origin.

Bemani..is Urdu..Be-Iman.

Hat Teri Ki is from the Punjabi Dhat Teri Ki

Galeesh...is from the Kannada word Galeesh meaning dirty.


So Chennai Tamil is borderless totally uniting all Indians!LOL

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Doctor Mam,

You are bringing in 'Madras Bashai' following the other member!!!

Here is more!

[h=1]What Tamil does Madras speak? Madras Tamil[/h]“Nainaava ittugunu poriya?” (Will you take your father and go?)

“Vootanda poi thunnuttu varen” (I will go home, eat and come)

“En kaila wraang pannada” (Don’t mess with me)

“Anga ore galeejaakudubaa, inna poyappo!” (It’s really yucky there, what kind of a job is that!)

Some say it is as old as Madras itself, while many consider it a post-Independence phenomenon.

Unlike those in Madurai or Coimbatore, Chennaiites may not speak a specific variant of Tamil, but if there is a language that is truly Chennai, it has got to be Madras Tamil or ‘Madras bashai’.


Read more at: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...-madras-speak-madras-tamil/article3792738.ece

 

[renuka]

Doctor Mam,

You are bringing in 'Madras Bashai' following the other member!!!

Here is more!

What Tamil does Madras speak? Madras Tamil

“Nainaava ittugunu poriya?” (Will you take your father and go?)

“Vootanda poi thunnuttu varen” (I will go home, eat and come)

“En kaila wraang pannada” (Don’t mess with me)

“Anga ore galeejaakudubaa, inna poyappo!” (It’s really yucky there, what kind of a job is that!)

Some say it is as old as Madras itself, while many consider it a post-Independence phenomenon.

Unlike those in Madurai or Coimbatore, Chennaiites may not speak a specific variant of Tamil, but if there is a language that is truly Chennai, it has got to be Madras Tamil or ‘Madras bashai’.


Read more at: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...-madras-speak-madras-tamil/article3792738.ece

Dear Sir,

Thanks a lot for new words.

I sometimes use Madras Bhashai when I meet people who act too sophisticated and show off types.

Watch their jaws drop when they hear you speak it!LOL

 

[GANESH65]

This achievement is may be mainly due to the reason because, from time immemorial the the scripts were accessible to Brahmins only. Whether it is Samskritam, Tamil or any other language. Brahmins were first to learn and to teach as well. So not only their pronunciation but also the command over the entire language must be the best and incomparable. We have reasons to be proud of for that. In the mean time, we should not forget the fact that the present generation slowly losing interest with the language. They use more English and other language words (and also the local influence) while communicate, which is a growing cause of concern for continuation of this legacy.

 

[yesmohan]

It also goes without saying that TBs' skill in English, is second to none !!

 

[V.Balasubramani]

It also goes without saying that TBs' skill in English, is second to none !!

Yesmohan Ji,

You are right.

Just to quote one

V. S. Srinivasa Sastri


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[TD]The Right Honourable
Valangaiman Sankaranarayana Srinivasa SastriCH PC[/TD]
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Sankaranarayana Srinivasa Sastri (Tamil: வலங்கைமான் சங்கரநாராயண ஸ்ரீநிவாஸ Valangaiman சாஸ்திரி) CH PC (22 September 1869 – 17 April 1946) was an Indian politician, administrator, educator, orator and Indian independence activist. He was acclaimed for his oratory and command over the English language. Srinivasa Sastri was born to a poor temple priest in the village ofValangaiman near Kumbakonam, India. He completed his education at Kumbakonam and worked as a school teacher and later, headmaster in Triplicane, Madras. He entered politics in 1905 when he joined the Servants of India Society. Srinivasa Sastri served as a member of the Indian National Congress from 1908 to 1922, but later resigned in protest against the Non-Cooperation movement. Sastri was one of the founding members of the Indian Liberal Party. In his later days, Srinivasa Sastri was strongly opposed to the partition of India.
Silver-Tongued Orator of the British Empire[edit]


Srinivasa Sastri was known for his mastery over the English language and his oratory.[SUP][2][/SUP] As a student, he once corrected a few passages in J. C. Nesfield's "English Grammar".[SUP][2][/SUP]Whenever he was on visit to the United Kingdom, Sastri was often consulted over spellings and pronunciations.[SUP][2][/SUP] His mastery over the English language was recognized by King George V, Winston Churchill, Lady Lytton and Lord Balfour[SUP][2][/SUP] who rated him amongst the five best English-language orators of the century.[SUP][5][27][/SUP] The Master of Balliol, Arthur Lionel Smith swore that he had never realized the beauty of the English language until he heard Sastri.[SUP][27][/SUP] while Lord Balfour remarked that listening to Srinivasa Sastri made him realize the heights to which the English language could rise.[SUP][2][/SUP] Thomas Smart conferred upon Sastri the appellation "Silver Tongued Orator of the British Empire"[SUP][28][/SUP] and he was so called all over the United Kingdom.[SUP][5][/SUP] Srinivasa Sastri's inspirations were William Shakespeare, Sir Walter Scott, George Eliot, John Stuart Mill, Thomas Harvey, Victor Hugoand Valmiki - Indian sage and the author of the Hindu epic Ramayana.[SUP][2][/SUP]

Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._S._Srinivasa_Sastri#Early_life_and_educational_career