‘About 70 p.c. of epilepsy cases are curable’

[prasad1]

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RAISING AWARENESS: About 45 bikers participated in a rally organised by Vikram Hospital to mark National Epilepsy Day in Bangalore on Sunday. Photo: Harsha Padyana


To mark National Epilepsy Day, Vikram Hospital organised a Harley Owners’ Group motorcycle rally here on Sunday.


The rally, which was flagged off on the hospital premises on Miller’s Road, was taken out to the Bengaluru International Airport and back. The event aimed at creating awareness on epilepsy, especially breaking the stigma associated with the disease. Forty-five bikers participated in the rally, which was inaugurated by Deputy Chief Minister R. Ashok. Other guests included Director-General and Inspector-General of Police Lalrokhuma Pachau, the former Olympian swimmer Nisha Millet, former Miss India Rekha Hande and a team of neurologists and neurosurgeons of the hospital.


“This was a special ride because it was for a noble cause. We wanted to tell people that epilepsy can be cured in most cases with proper medication,” said Sheeja Mathew, the only woman at the rally. Salamat Shariff, also a biker, said, “It was good initiative by the hospital and the experience was great.”


Doctors at the rally said the advancement in the treatment for epilepsy had made it possible for those with condition to lead a normal life.


Earlier, the patients were not issued driving licences and some were even denied admission to schools. This had changed as effective medical treatment was possible now, they said.


“Seventy to 80 per cent of the cases are now curable, while some severe cases can be controlled through surgery. Epilepsy patients face several restrictions in society and we want to end that,” said Rajesh Iyer, neurologist at Vikram Hospital.


If only people will accept it, and treat it as a curable decease, instead of resorting to prayers, metal objects and other unproven methods.

There was a thread, that suggested some rather antiquated remedies.
http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/general-discussions/9356-chinese-home-first-aid-stroke.html#post146270

 

[Govinda]

Prasad JI,

Epilepsy is a condition characterized by abnormal electrical impulses in the brain (meaning some imbalance in the neurotransmitters). Such patients should be evaluated medically. An EEG and an MRI scan (without contrast, is safer) should reveal most of the simple seizures, I guess. IMU, Unless for severe cases , either a brain trauma, injury or tumors, CT scans (that emits so much radiation ) should be avoided. The daily observation (which foods) or actions/stress, or environment (Chemicals/jobs/toxins) that trigger seizures/epilepsy should be given as medical history to the doctor. Thus, the doctors can evaluate and prescribe the suitable medication. This is exactly how we get treated for high fevers of many days or severe strep throat, with antibiotics. Home treatments cannot be effective when the lightning strikes!!

But, to prevent such crazy situations (needing epilepsy treatments or antiibiotics or diabetes treatment), we should prepare ourselves to be immune and healthy. We take less starchy/fatty/salty foods, take protein rich, veggie rich foods, take less stressful work (not being rat-race like) - meaning less attached (not rajasic) , and keep ourselves calm, organized and clean. These healthy life-style should be practised even while taking such treatments, overtime, we won't need those crazy, dangerous medicines/chemicals. Thus, maintenance is also another key. But, it is a great adventure to overcome the Mind/Passions/Desires/Vasana, hence we had clear routing karmas - doing sandhya, devoting to pooja, taking tulsi and consume prasadam (Restricitng to sAttvik/foods with needed herbs), quiet 'spiritual' positive reading for leisure (not watching unwanted serials on TV/ wild/violent games, attending overwhelming parties/outings etc. that triggers brain activity) will all keep the mind under control from needing junk-foods or running wild.

I have seen children are the easy targets, may be due to the mother's poor health regime (from her early years till child-bearing age), plus her eating/cooking habits at home. (Ofcourse, besides toxins in the environment, infections and the medicnes/chemicals the parents consumed). Thus, the women (and men) should take a resolve to change the family's eating regime to healthy one, giving up all the pre-judices on taste, flavour and traditions and their big-tongues, the cheap/alpa moneysaving tactics and the rat-races [by women staying home, and caring for the family's health/future, men coming home early and engaging the family in healthy entertainments]]!

Though I understand the message of the post, that such conditions should be medically treated, those chemical treatments have its own adverse side effects. Thus, it is critically important for everyone to completely change to a healthy life-style, and slowly wean those treatments and false attachments (even otherwise).

http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/share-your-knowledge/10420-neurotransmitters-behaviours-diet.html

 

[Iyyarooraan]

Very promising. But the agony continues for thousands and thousands. In fact, the patients are skeptic. I know a couple of cases where neither the EEG helped nor the CT which doctors said have limitations. At the most this could be a marketing technique. I am sorry to say that.

 

[prasad1]

Very promising. But the agony continues for thousands and thousands. In fact, the patients are skeptic. I know a couple of cases where neither the EEG helped nor the CT which doctors said have limitations. At the most this could be a marketing technique. I am sorry to say that.

There is one more possibility, may be you consulted an incometant doctor.

 

[Iyyarooraan]

There is one more possibility, may be you consulted an incometant doctor.

Maybe you are right. But I was told the doctor at the KEM was best in his place. Well, who decides the 'best' is a moot point. Or, maybe, a patient should wait for a best time to seek remedy. There had been other consultants, too.

 

[prasad1]

Prasad JI,

Epilepsy is a condition characterized by abnormal electrical impulses in the brain (meaning some imbalance in the neurotransmitters). Such patients should be evaluated medically. An EEG and an MRI scan (without contrast, is safer) should reveal most of the simple seizures, I guess. IMU, Unless for severe cases , either a brain trauma, injury or tumors, CT scans (that emits so much radiation ) should be avoided. The daily observation (which foods) or actions/stress, or environment (Chemicals/jobs/toxins) that trigger seizures/epilepsy should be given as medical history to the doctor. Thus, the doctors can evaluate and prescribe the suitable medication. This is exactly how we get treated for high fevers of many days or severe strep throat, with antibiotics. Home treatments cannot be effective when the lightning strikes!!

But, to prevent such crazy situations (needing epilepsy treatments or antiibiotics or diabetes treatment), we should prepare ourselves to be immune and healthy. We take less starchy/fatty/salty foods, take protein rich, veggie rich foods, take less stressful work (not being rat-race like) - meaning less attached (not rajasic) , and keep ourselves calm, organized and clean. These healthy life-style should be practised even while taking such treatments, overtime, we won't need those crazy, dangerous medicines/chemicals. Thus, maintenance is also another key. But, it is a great adventure to overcome the Mind/Passions/Desires/Vasana, hence we had clear routing karmas - doing sandhya, devoting to pooja, taking tulsi and consume prasadam (Restricitng to sAttvik/foods with needed herbs), quiet 'spiritual' positive reading for leisure (not watching unwanted serials on TV/ wild/violent games, attending overwhelming parties/outings etc. that triggers brain activity) will all keep the mind under control from needing junk-foods or running wild.

I have seen children are the easy targets, may be due to the mother's poor health regime (from her early years till child-bearing age), plus her eating/cooking habits at home. (Ofcourse, besides toxins in the environment, infections and the medicnes/chemicals the parents consumed). Thus, the women (and men) should take a resolve to change the family's eating regime to healthy one, giving up all the pre-judices on taste, flavour and traditions and their big-tongues, the cheap/alpa moneysaving tactics and the rat-races [by women staying home, and caring for the family's health/future, men coming home early and engaging the family in healthy entertainments]]!

Though I understand the message of the post, that such conditions should be medically treated, those chemical treatments have its own adverse side effects. Thus, it is critically important for everyone to completely change to a healthy life-style, and slowly wean those treatments and false attachments (even otherwise).

http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/share-your-knowledge/10420-neurotransmitters-behaviours-diet.html

I am not a medical professional, and I am not dispensing any treatments. My only recommendation is to consult a qualified medical professional, and just blindly follow some old wife's tale of giving a metal key or shoe in the nose treatment and expect miracles.

 

[Govinda]

I am not a medical professional, and I am not dispensing any treatments. My only recommendation is to consult a qualified medical professional, and just blindly follow some old wife's tale of giving a metal key or shoe in the nose treatment and expect miracles.

But, we cannot rule out the fact that the hospital/doctor /pharmacy make a business of their professions!! They dont suggest natural/integrative approach to medicine - like meditation/exercise, raw/vegiie diets, behavioural/mood therapy, holistic lviing etc.

They are 'BLIND' experts in their filed of medicine, equal to those using witchcraft/magic/old-wives tales/sentiments etc. Every normal individual would have had an average of 3 CT scans and 10 X-rays and umpteen dental X-rays/amalgam fillings, that is how they have marketed/promoted the medical business. The doctors would never suggest a healthy foods/supplements other than the pharmaceutical drugs.

They dont want the patients to recover, rather be bonded labourers for life (A pension scheme!)

Doctors/hospitals cannot let go off their business. Rather, doctors would plead for millions of dollars for cancer cure/research
and burn the patients ONLY in chemotherapy. Just gulping down a tub of leafy greens every hour, could give cancer patients more life!

Here is one simple example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTXSTGGRvKY&feature=related

 

[prasad1]

Mr. Govinda,
I have higher opinion of professionals. It may be that I have only come across good professional. You can make your money without gauging your customers. I am a professional, and my wife is professional in the medical field in a teaching hospital. I can vouch for majority of professional's integrity.
I can understand that their expertise is limited to their field. They may not suggest alternative medicine as they are prohibitted from doing by the threat of medical malpractice.
But like you say you must do needful learning.

 

[Govinda]

They may not suggest alternative medicine as they are prohibitted from doing by the threat of medical malpractice. But like you say you must do needful learning.

Suggesting alternative medicine like right food (natural foods) and supplements (part of medical science) cannot be part of any mal-practice. What are you covering up?

But like you say you must do needful learning.

Doctors dont open their mouths, except treat the current symptom. Plus, Doctors/professions have to do the needful, helpful, opportunityless service/learning.

 

[prasad1]

Suggesting alternative medicine like right food (natural foods) and supplements (part of medical science) cannot be part of any mal-practice. What are you covering up? Doctors dont open their mouths, except treat the current symptom. Plus, Doctors/professions have to do the needful, helpful, opportunityless service/learning.

Mr. Govinda,
I was having a civil discussion, and explaining the medical practice in USA.
A board certified doctor (MD) can only recommend the accepted protocol for treatment. They can not recommend a non-proven treatment plan. If the alternative plan causes adverse effect they can be sued for malpractice. Even for the diet they will recommend a registered dietitian.

If you can not accept my explanation you are welcome to check it out.

But calling it a coverup, it is rude and not very smart. May be you did not mean to be rude, but it seems very inappropriate comment.

 

[Govinda]

Mr. Govinda, I was having a civil discussion, and explaining the medical practice in USA. A board certified doctor (MD) can only recommend the accepted protocol for treatment. They can not recommend a non-proven treatment plan. If the alternative plan causes adverse effect they can be sued for malpractice. Even for the diet they will recommend a registered dietitian. If you can not accept my explanation you are welcome to check it out. But calling it a coverup, it is rude and not very smart. May be you did not mean to be rude, but it seems very inappropriate comment.

Sir,

The OP post was about an awareness drive in India. They have no protocols or have no problem with suing. The doctors/medical professionals should equally create awareness in general health/important foods. There, the primary physician is all in all and should work on the general wellness than just solving the symptoms/problems, or benefitting those imaging businesses or pharmacies.

Secondly, the protocol in US is in itself a big coverup from sueing, plus with the hidden agenda of ripping off thru various departments (unless one has an insurance). How about the million homeless/jobless, what use is their protocol? Why didnt those failed by those protocols not sue them?? What protocol did they use to get 72 million CT scans per year ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P819yq-kpNc , then imagine the count in India. We have no idea of danger.

Leave them, but India is a different story with a huge population and a middle/poor class crowd. Indian's problems are mainly with the health and nutrition, than the genetic defects/problems in Western countries. Our doctors can definitely create awareness, when the patients come to them for any simple reason. But do they?

Some scientific inventions are good, but natural healing is the best, safest but needs control/awareness. Science based Medicine should only be a metric/monitoring tool and a start-up for cure, but it should be backed up/taken over by human and nature intervention.

 

[prasad1]

Sir,
This is a civil discussion, if you do not want to participate no one is forcing you. The moment someone mentions USA, the pulse of USA haters seems to shoot up. If you do not like your doctor you can find a better one. There is no argument that improved diet can improve the overall health. You do not need a doctor to change your diet.
If you think the doctor is there to make money please stop visiting them. You want the services on your terms, then you are going to the wrong source. There is no compulsion for you to visit a doctor.
It is your choice. Most of the american have Insurance.

If you care to see, this thread was started by me. I expected and respect polite discussion.

 

[Govinda]

You do not need a doctor to change your diet.

Like Self driving Cars, there soon will be Self-Doctoring Machines, that will administer drugs based on the problem and the weight spoken into a machine. Becos, we dont have many doctors to adminster drugs/solutions based on the nature/criticality/tolerance/situation of the person.

 

[Iyyarooraan]

There was a newspaper report a couple of years back that a family physician, MBBS, (Gujarati) in an upper middle class area in Mumbai charged just 3/5 rupees for clinical treatment. The doctor was happy and he was not doing any charity. In a city of more than a crore people where every lane has at least one white board with black letters, this doctor is a useful bacteria. He would have been thought as a virus by his professional brothers. But unlike other viruses this one has not multiplied. ​Chandanam na vane, vane....

 

[prasad1]

There was a newspaper report a couple of years back that a family physician, MBBS, (Gujarati) in an upper middle class area in Mumbai charged just 3/5 rupees for clinical treatment. The doctor was happy and he was not doing any charity. In a city of more than a crore people where every lane has at least one white board with black letters, this doctor is a useful bacteria. He would have been thought as a virus by his professional brothers. But unlike other viruses this one has not multiplied. ​Chandanam na vane, vane....

You are right, most of the people are cured, if they see a "doctor". It is more psychological than clinical. But the actual treatment either by a specialist or hospital will wipe you out. LOL