Acceptable Vice

[Nacchinarkiniyan]

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It’s as if reaching a certain age entitles one to so many degrees of vice.

Forty earns the right to talk about current music trends as “noise” while speaking admiringly of the musical artists in your era that have real talent.

Fifty earns the right to go without make-up and not be considered slovenly.

Sixty qualifies for pretending you can’t hear annoying relatives, and seventy obviously earns a second adolescence, with sexual adventures in unexpected places.

I hope I never reach eighty. I don’t even want to think about what vice is acceptable then.

[This is from the Internet May be we could improve on that.]

 

[renuka]

I have a feeling when I reach 80 I might want to get a gun!


I totally agree as we age we become more bold to defy even norms.

I now do not believe in stopping myself....just live the way we want as long we do not cause harm to others and ourselves.

 

[vgane]

I have a feeling when I reach 80 I might want to get a gun!


I totally agree as we age we become more bold to defy even norms.

I now do not believe in stopping myself....just live the way we want as long we do not cause harm to others and ourselves.

Renukaji,

You are bubbling with energy now..You have not even crossed the 50's

The internet is out to galvanize the oldie crowd..I think as we age we get more cautious...Our wisdom is supposed to improve...Firing up and arousal for a person in his 70's..I guess I leave it to the age group to comment

 

[kama]

According to me, the soul never ages and physical fitness can defy the age. Younger age, we are in a stage to be more adventures and as we grow older, we put a limitation for some of those activities. However, we manage to retain the activities that old age could manage Thoughts remain young at older age too !! Even at 100 physical fitness will play a positive role !!

 

[prasad1]

Vice is a practice, behavior, or habit generally considered immoral, sinful, depraved, or degrading in the associated society. In more minor usage, vice can refer to a fault, a negative character trait, a defect, an infirmity, or a bad or unhealthy habit (such as an addiction to smoking). Synonyms for vice include fault, sin, depravity, iniquity, wickedness, and corruption.


The opposite of vice is virtue.


So what are the vices and according to whom?
Eating meat may be a vice in the present TB forum, but it may not have been in the past.


We know the story of Agastya and Vatapi.

Vatapi and Ilwala, two Rakshasas, sons either of Hrada or Viprachitti. They are mentioned in the Ramayana as dwelling in the Dandaka forest.


Vatapi assumed the from of a ram which was offered in sacrifice and afterwards eaten by Brahmans. Ilwala then called upon him to come forth, and accordingly he tore his way out of the stomachs of the Brahmans. He tried the same trick upon Agastya, but that austere sage ate and digested him. Ilwala, as before, called his brother to come forth, and assaulted the sage, who told him that his brother would never return. Then Ilwala was burnt up by fire from the eyes of Agastya.

So eating meat was not a vice at that time.

Similarly all the devatas of Vedas drank Soma, which loosely translated meant a Hallucinogenic Drinks (including alcohol). So again it is not a vice.

 

[biswa]

Good point Prasadji. Vice is a relative term, and only makes sense in the appropriate context of that day and age. For example polygamy was a roaring practice in all of India. Only after independence is it considered a crime, that too not for all religious communities.

 

[renuka]

Renukaji,

You are bubbling with energy now..You have not even crossed the 50's

Dear Vgane ji,

I agree but at the same time even at my age I still can see noticeable differences in my mind set..I do not "fear" breaking rules anymore cos I do not want to divide life into a set of wrong or right anymore.

So I know for sure when I reach 80 I might want to get a gun!LOL

 

[krish44]

Renukaji,

You are bubbling with energy now..You have not even crossed the 50's

The internet is out to galvanize the oldie crowd..I think as we age we get more cautious...Our wisdom is supposed to improve...Firing up and arousal for a person in his 70's..I guess I leave it to the age group to comment

vganeji
the general thinking is oldies get more cautious because of age.

exactly the reverse is true.

as we age our responsibilities reduce.

so very senior citizens can be carefree and will take more risks.

those things which are thought to be wise will be given the contempt they deserve and genuine happiness will be found in doing what they want to do breaking all

barriers of rules , customs and regulations which have held them in check

they will fly high like the birds, enjoy the mountains, go on cruise around the world , paint the town red with their wild ways and perhaps cross the borderline in

any way conceivable.

energy will only increase and not diminish.

internet is only a small means for communicating and bonding.It is a virtual world

real is more interesting.lol

 

[krish44]

Dear Vgane ji,

I agree but at the same time even at my age I still can see noticeable differences in my mind set..I do not "fear" breaking rules anymore cos I do not want to divide life into a set of wrong or right anymore.

So I know for sure when I reach 80 I might want to get a gun!LOL

best of luck renukaji

rules are meant to be broken.

rights and wrongs change with time and is relative. there is a spectrum from extreme bad to extreme good

throw judgement and self imposed limitations.

these are shackles binding you to a narrow course of action

if one becomes guiltless and accountable to only oneself , there is a possibility of freedom and more happiness

 

[sarang]

There are scriptures, smrutis, itihadsas, tradition and practices to evaluate, judge and decide what is a vice and what is a virtue. Satyam vada is a virtue but it has exceptions. So is the food habits. One can listen to valluvar in pulal maruththal or indulge in bite to kill and drink blood animal sacrifice. Our dharma scriptures say a lot on how to live and evolve.
It is amusing to see some jumping like beheaded chicken!

 

[krish44]

there are some waiting to drink the blood of beheaded chicken and perform tribal dances.lol

 

[renuka]

best of luck renukaji

rules are meant to be broken.

rights and wrongs change with time and is relative. there is a spectrum from extreme bad to extreme good

throw judgement and self imposed limitations.

these are shackles binding you to a narrow course of action

if one becomes guiltless and accountable to only oneself , there is a possibility of freedom and more happiness

Thanks...I have come to believe that rules are an illusion just like the horizon is an illusion that makes us believe that the sun rises and sun sets.

Nothing is what it seems to be..so why worry..nothing is permanent..so ENJOY as long we do others and ourselves no potentially fatal harm and stay out of prison!

 

[renuka]

There are scriptures, smrutis, itihadsas, tradition and practices to evaluate, judge and decide what is a vice and what is a virtue. Satyam vada is a virtue but it has exceptions. So is the food habits. One can listen to valluvar in pulal maruththal or indulge in bite to kill and drink blood animal sacrifice. Our dharma scriptures say a lot on how to live and evolve.
It is amusing to see some jumping like beheaded chicken!

Have you seen a semi- beheaded chicken?

I have..some many many years ago a neighbour slaughtered a chicken where its throat was slit in a Kosher technique and the chicken ran to my house and came to where I was standing.

I was aged 16 then..its head was bobbing back forward and bleeding and I put my finger in its slit throat wound and held its wind pipe together for a while hoping to save it but it slowly died calmly in my hands.

Then my neighbour came and told me he cant eat that chicken cos the Kosher ritual does not allow saving the life of the chicken in between.

So I buried the dead chicken.

My neighbor was pissed with me that he could not eat the chicken but I said it ran to me so I tried to save it.

So the moral of a story is beheaded chicken or semi beheaded chickens do not jump as much.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

I have a feeling when I reach 80 I might want to get a gun!


I totally agree as we age we become more bold to defy even norms.

I now do not believe in stopping myself....just live the way we want as long we do not cause harm to others and ourselves.

Fun with Gun! & Fun is No sin !!

 

[CHANDRU1849]

I have..some many many years ago a neighbour slaughtered a chicken where its throat was slit in a Kosher technique and the chicken ran to my house and came to where I was standing.

Then my neighbour came and told me he cant eat that chicken cos the Kosher ritual does not allow saving the life of the chicken in between.

What is koshar technique? Is it halal?