• Welcome to Tamil Brahmins forums.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our Free Brahmin Community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Becoming one with god

  • Thread starter Thread starter sambasi
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
I hadprepared this article sometime back. This is regarding a series of researchdone on “What happens to our brain cellswhen we pray, meditate, or engage in other religious activities”.
Pl see attachment.
Kindlygive your feedback
Shri Sambasi,

I read through your paper and my views are as under.


It all started when Vilayanur Ramachandran, director of the Brain and Perception Laboratory at the University of California at San Diego. astounded the world in 1997 by suggesting that there is a 'God spot" or "God module" in our brain, While studying epileptic patients, Dr. Ramachandran and his colleagues discovered there was an increase in the electrical activity of a certain part of the brain (which he termed as “God module”), as was recorded by EEG.

Does this not signify that if God’s presence increases (at least in the God module in the brain) epilepsy will be the result. May be next we will find out that epileptics are nearer to God!

Skeptics of religion may claim that the brain's hardwiring proves that God has no real existence, that it's all in the brain. On the other hand, if you're a religious person, it makes sense that the brain can do this,
Just as physicists cannot fully understand the electron as either a particle or a wave, but only as both at once, so we need both science and a more subjective, spiritual understanding in order to grasp the full nature of reality.
The gap between science and religion is perhaps closing with these kind of findings.

I am not a skeptic but I do believe that religion is intrinsically a system or package of beliefs which are systematically inculcated into every human brain by the parents, teachers, peers, in effect the society in which one is born. The data regarding such beliefs, which are not directly relevant to the day-to-day life of a human being, is perhaps stocked in that particular part of the brain (temporal lobe – why spiritual data in temporal lobe, why not in a spiritual lobe?).

We now know, from your paper that the same brain centre is behind the “deep meditation” and resultant loss of sense of space and time, as also epilepsy. Is it not then clear that the end result of meditation will be epileptic fits?

Comparing the wave/particle aspects of fundamental particles with science and religion is, to say the least, odious. We have no evidence, even from your notes, that science and religion come out of two different modes of the same brain God module of the brain.
 
Dear Sri Sambasivan,

It is a well recognized fact in main stream medical literature that meditation leads to an increase in alpha wave activity. This has been done, as you mentioned, by the fMRI on Tibetan monks, by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Osho and others, including from NIMHANS, India. Science will eventually come to recognize the value of ancient traditions including Indian practices. Meditative waves do not lead to epileptiform waves.

Respects to all

Vish Iyer MS FRCS
 
To clarify the points raised,
(1) Our brains show specific activity duringreligious experiences. Dr. Vilayanur Ramachandran, head of the research team,said the study involved comparing (i) epileptic patients (ii) normal people and(iii) a group who said they were intensely religious.

Electrical monitors on their skin – astandard test for activity in the brains temporal lobes – showed that the epilepticsand the deeply religious displayed a similar response when shown wordsinvoking spiritual belief. The study did not say God’s presence increases epilepsy. ( Perhaps a very wronginterpretation)

(2) The data regarding such beliefs, is perhapsstocked in that particular part of the brain, temporal lobe. This is true andfor details one can one can search in internet.

(3) During deep meditation, one loses track of timeand space. There are ample examples we know of.

Thegap between science and religion is perhaps closing. This is the message Iwanted to give here.
 
I really like your presentation and explanation and quite interesting to read.
Normally, a person becomes one with God, if he/she gives her entire life
in the services of the God and secondly when one makes an absolute surrender
to the God.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur
 
Dear all,
Thanks for your valuable feedback.
With Regards,
Sambasivam
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest ads

Back
Top