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Sir, thanks for your views and reviews.

I had written about Asrama dharma as a background and at very top level, highlighted how it could map to human development.

I will present a more detailed study of how our brain development is suited to Asrama dharma in a separate OP wherein I will detail how nuerons wiring/re-wiring (learning/unlearning) varies with age and how it suits the defined Asramas. Most of what you have written about Asrama dharma and saMnyAsa can effectively be discussed in that OP.

For this OP, the crux of Br. Up. 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 is this

The Atma that pravrAjina/brAhmana desire to realize, for which they wander, perform Yajna, dAna, destructive tapas etc is not capturable, perceivable, not attachable, non-interactive, not affected by our actions or inactions.

So actions in this Universe that we perform to realize that Atman like bhikSacarya, yajna, dAna, tapas are only our desires.

A brAhman (who realized brahman) glory neither grows nor decreases with the actions performed by the brAhman. Why..? Because the brAhman has the knowledge not to entangle his deeds/actions wtih pApa.

How does one do that..? By being at peace, patient, equipoised, sees only those with Atman which means sees Atman in everything. pApa is burnt out in the action that such a brAhman performs. Such a brAhman is without rajas. Such a brAhman is without physical therapies (which means his mind is separate from the body).

Janaka who has such qualities is already a realized soul.

I presented this here for a simple reason. There was a thought presented during discussions here, that saMnyAsa (which is giving up everything) is the way to Atma JnAna and that Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 talks about that.

I presented this to show what Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 really talks about.

(PS: I did not understand what you meant by 'demeaning kAsi yAtra', 'arrogance' etc.. I wrote about kAsi Yatra formality in marriages, which I translated as being done to go for higher studies and not saMnyAsa, which is from a different thread totally, which I and KRN were discussing. Not sure what is demeaning in it..)

-TBT

<blockquote data-quote="thebigthinkg" data-source="post: 410091" data-attributes="member: 14192">Sir, thanks for your views and reviews.I had written about Asrama dharma as a background and at very top level, highlighted how it could map to human development. I will present a more detailed study of how our brain development is suited to Asrama dharma in a separate OP wherein I will detail how nuerons wiring/re-wiring (learning/unlearning) varies with age and how it suits the defined Asramas. Most of what you have written about Asrama dharma and saMnyAsa can effectively be discussed in that OP.&nbsp; For this OP,&nbsp; the crux of Br. Up. 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 is thisThe Atma that pravrAjina/brAhmana desire to realize, for which they wander, perform Yajna, dAna, destructive tapas etc is not capturable, perceivable, not attachable, non-interactive, not affected by our actions or inactions.So actions in this Universe that we perform to realize that Atman like bhikSacarya, yajna, dAna, tapas are only our desires.A brAhman (who realized brahman) glory neither grows nor decreases with the actions performed by the brAhman. Why..? Because the brAhman has the knowledge not to entangle his deeds/actions wtih pApa.How does one do that..? By being at peace, patient, equipoised, sees only those with Atman which means sees Atman in everything. pApa is burnt out in the action that such a brAhman performs. Such a brAhman is without rajas. Such a brAhman is without physical therapies (which means his mind is separate from the body).Janaka who has such qualities is already a realized soul.I presented this here for a simple reason. There was a thought presented during discussions here, that saMnyAsa (which is giving up everything) is the way to Atma JnAna and that Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 talks about that.I presented this to show what Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 really talks about.(PS: I did not understand what you meant by &#039;demeaning kAsi yAtra&#039;, &#039;arrogance&#039; etc.. I wrote about kAsi Yatra formality in marriages,&nbsp; which I translated as being done to go for higher studies and not saMnyAsa, which is from a different thread totally, which I and KRN were discussing. Not sure what is demeaning in it..)-TBT</blockquote>

[QUOTE="thebigthinkg, post: 410091, member: 14192"] Sir, thanks for your views and reviews. I had written about Asrama dharma as a background and at very top level, highlighted how it could map to human development. I will present a more detailed study of how our brain development is suited to Asrama dharma in a separate OP wherein I will detail how nuerons wiring/re-wiring (learning/unlearning) varies with age and how it suits the defined Asramas. Most of what you have written about Asrama dharma and saMnyAsa can effectively be discussed in that OP. For this OP, the crux of Br. Up. 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 is this The Atma that pravrAjina/brAhmana desire to realize, for which they wander, perform Yajna, dAna, destructive tapas etc is not capturable, perceivable, not attachable, non-interactive, not affected by our actions or inactions. So actions in this Universe that we perform to realize that Atman like bhikSacarya, yajna, dAna, tapas are only our desires. A brAhman (who realized brahman) glory neither grows nor decreases with the actions performed by the brAhman. Why..? Because the brAhman has the knowledge not to entangle his deeds/actions wtih pApa. How does one do that..? By being at peace, patient, equipoised, sees only those with Atman which means sees Atman in everything. pApa is burnt out in the action that such a brAhman performs. Such a brAhman is without rajas. Such a brAhman is without physical therapies (which means his mind is separate from the body). Janaka who has such qualities is already a realized soul. I presented this here for a simple reason. There was a thought presented during discussions here, that saMnyAsa (which is giving up everything) is the way to Atma JnAna and that Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 talks about that. I presented this to show what Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 really talks about. (PS: I did not understand what you meant by 'demeaning kAsi yAtra', 'arrogance' etc.. I wrote about kAsi Yatra formality in marriages, which I translated as being done to go for higher studies and not saMnyAsa, which is from a different thread totally, which I and KRN were discussing. Not sure what is demeaning in it..) -TBT [/QUOTE]

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