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Sir

Let me try to understand your views and see if I can respond to it.

1. Why I did not answer a-TB's posts..?

a-TB has every right to hold that view of my post. I have nothing to offer in return except when he identifies either errors in my translations or counters a specific view as KRN did. From his side, the OP does not seem to fit to be worthy. I understand it and agree with him.

2. Hiding behind brain development as a reason for asramas. It is just a verbal obfuscation.

I said I will write another OP where we can discuss that issue. I wrote the 'Background' in the context of another thread on kAsi yatra in marriages where Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 were invoked as justifying saMnyAsa from any Asrama. I wrote that as background and highlighted how Br Up differs.

For Asramas I will definitely post another OP. Till that time, yes it is verbal obfuscation and hiding behind banalities etc etc. I understand that.

3. Which kAsi Yatra I meant, why I said I don't understand the 'arrogance' part

I and KRN were discussing about KAsi yAtra in marriages in another OP, where the point about going to saMnyAsa asrama directly was
discussed. So the kAsi Yatra we discussed was the formality in marriages only. And the saMnyAsa Asrama that we talked about was what was mentioned in Vedic asramas only. The connection between them came because I mentioned in Asrama dharma going to saMnyAsa directly from brahmacarya is NOT mentioned and hence it is not possible that kAsi Yatra talks about going to saMnyAsa. I still hold that view.

4. The question of passion

I and KRN were discussing the word 'Vi-rajate' mentioned in Jabala Upanishad which says one who is Viraja can to go saMnyAsa directly from grahastha. I said vi-raja means lack of energy/passion etc. KRN metioned it is similar to Vairagya (which is what I understood) and I refuted it.

5. Losing respect

Sir, respect for another matter or being comes because that matter or being also has the same Atman that we have. It is independent of views, words, nature of the person etc.

But probably you might have meant respect for my thoughts in the sense of caring to listen to it. That I understand. Everyone develops their own filters based on the gunas. So no issues.

I warmly welcome any thoughts of yours that can add substance to this discussion.

-TBT

<blockquote data-quote="thebigthinkg" data-source="post: 410166" data-attributes="member: 14192">SirLet me try to understand your views and see if I can respond to it.1. Why I did not answer a-TB&#039;s posts..?a-TB has every right to hold that view of my post. I have nothing to offer in return except when he identifies either errors in my translations or counters a specific view as KRN did. From his side, the OP does not seem to fit to be worthy. I understand it and agree with him.2. Hiding behind brain development as a reason for asramas. It is just a verbal obfuscation.I said I will write another OP where we can discuss that issue. I wrote the &#039;Background&#039; in the context of another thread on kAsi yatra in marriages where Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 were invoked as justifying saMnyAsa from any Asrama. I wrote that as background and highlighted how Br Up differs.For Asramas I will definitely post another OP. Till that time, yes it is verbal obfuscation and hiding behind banalities etc etc.&nbsp; I understand that.3. Which kAsi Yatra I meant, why I said I don&#039;t understand the &#039;arrogance&#039; partI and KRN were discussing about KAsi yAtra in marriages in another OP, where the point about going to saMnyAsa asrama directly wasdiscussed. So the kAsi Yatra we discussed was the formality in marriages only. And the saMnyAsa Asrama that we talked about was what was mentioned in Vedic asramas only. The connection between them came because I mentioned in Asrama dharma going to saMnyAsa directly from brahmacarya is NOT mentioned and hence it is not possible that kAsi Yatra talks about going to saMnyAsa.&nbsp; I still hold that view.4.&nbsp; The question of passionI and KRN were discussing the word &#039;Vi-rajate&#039; mentioned in Jabala Upanishad which says one who is Viraja can to go saMnyAsa directly from grahastha. I said vi-raja means lack of energy/passion etc. KRN metioned it is similar to Vairagya (which is what I understood) and I refuted it.5.&nbsp; Losing respectSir, respect for another matter or being comes because that matter or being also has the same Atman that we have. It is independent of views, words, nature of the person etc.But probably you might have meant respect for my thoughts in the sense of caring to listen to it. That I understand. Everyone develops their own filters based on the gunas. So no issues.I warmly welcome any thoughts of yours that can add substance to this discussion.-TBT</blockquote>

[QUOTE="thebigthinkg, post: 410166, member: 14192"] Sir Let me try to understand your views and see if I can respond to it. 1. Why I did not answer a-TB's posts..? a-TB has every right to hold that view of my post. I have nothing to offer in return except when he identifies either errors in my translations or counters a specific view as KRN did. From his side, the OP does not seem to fit to be worthy. I understand it and agree with him. 2. Hiding behind brain development as a reason for asramas. It is just a verbal obfuscation. I said I will write another OP where we can discuss that issue. I wrote the 'Background' in the context of another thread on kAsi yatra in marriages where Br Up 4.4.22 and 4.4.23 were invoked as justifying saMnyAsa from any Asrama. I wrote that as background and highlighted how Br Up differs. For Asramas I will definitely post another OP. Till that time, yes it is verbal obfuscation and hiding behind banalities etc etc. I understand that. 3. Which kAsi Yatra I meant, why I said I don't understand the 'arrogance' part I and KRN were discussing about KAsi yAtra in marriages in another OP, where the point about going to saMnyAsa asrama directly was discussed. So the kAsi Yatra we discussed was the formality in marriages only. And the saMnyAsa Asrama that we talked about was what was mentioned in Vedic asramas only. The connection between them came because I mentioned in Asrama dharma going to saMnyAsa directly from brahmacarya is NOT mentioned and hence it is not possible that kAsi Yatra talks about going to saMnyAsa. I still hold that view. 4. The question of passion I and KRN were discussing the word 'Vi-rajate' mentioned in Jabala Upanishad which says one who is Viraja can to go saMnyAsa directly from grahastha. I said vi-raja means lack of energy/passion etc. KRN metioned it is similar to Vairagya (which is what I understood) and I refuted it. 5. Losing respect Sir, respect for another matter or being comes because that matter or being also has the same Atman that we have. It is independent of views, words, nature of the person etc. But probably you might have meant respect for my thoughts in the sense of caring to listen to it. That I understand. Everyone develops their own filters based on the gunas. So no issues. I warmly welcome any thoughts of yours that can add substance to this discussion. -TBT [/QUOTE]

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