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Can we follow the sastras?

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Can we follow the sastras?
Brahmins have mostly drifted away from following the rules in the Sastras. Many can question the sastras. They can say that the sastras are not suited to the ‘modern’ age and need not be followed. Sastras themselves do not answer any of these questions. They only say that these are good for you. Not following them, you are going to land in misery. As Great Rishis have formed these sastras, it is our faith that they had long vision and did these for our good. Their idea is spiritual progress of everyone. Material comforts are needed but are not the goal.
These are some of the sastra rules which we have ignored. At least let us know which of these are really impossible to follow and which can still be followed.
1. Crossing the ocean: We are not only crossing the ocean but are settling down in foreign countries, getting foreign citizenship, proud to make our children as foreign born foreign citizens etc. Our main purpose of coming to these Mileccha lands is to earn a lot of money. Are material comforts our only aim? Once we have earned enough to lead a comfortable life in Bharat, should we continue to stay here? Why should we retire and bring up our children here? Can we think of leading a simple life in India?
2. Out of caste marriages, divorces, remarriages etc.: These are irreversible changes which puts Brahmins far from their practices. Should we not inculcate our values among our younger generations? Should we follow the western ways in these matters? If a person is stuck in one of these evils should he start saying that these are all ok for everyone? Should we not try to prevent others from getting into these misery creating practices?
3. Food habits: Now a days, vegetarian food is available in almost all parts of the world. Why should Brahmins eat meat and eggs? Some are proud to call themselves as an eggitarian! Why should they eat from outside their homes even during holidays and vacations? Even in India, Brahmins have started arranging non-Brahmin catering for their functions like upanayanam and marriages. They come with their uniforms with shoes and ties on and start serving food, many times with abundance of onions and Garlic? Is this a needed practice? If Brahmin cooks prepare and serve food wearing Vesty, is it below your prestige? Should the whole family go out and eat in expensive restaurants without any need for it? Is it a way of enjoying life? Eating simple vegetarian food prepared at home is possible to everyone with a family, at least once a day and during weekends.
4. Performing Pitru Karyas: Many have started skipping even shraadhas in their homes. They say- “we have performed in Kashi once, hence we have given it up” or some such unacceptable reason. Instead of doing the shraadha, cooking by themselves, they hire some ‘Brahmin’ women cooks who do not follow the clean practices needed for it. Some even are arranging catering for shraadhas! They want the vadhyar to hurry and finish everything very fast. Can’t they eat late at least on the shraadha day? Some adopt the shortcut of giving rice and green banana (meant for very poor people) even when they are capable of doing a full shraadha. Amavasya, masya and Grahana Tarpanas are almost forgotten practices.
5. Time shortage?: Most have given up Sandya vandana saying that they do not have time for it. Performing a karma late is allowed in sastras by giving prayaschitha argya etc. What prevents them from doing the nitya karmas on weekends? Only if the elders do it, their children will have a motivation to continue. There is no point in blaming the younger generation. They are not interested in learning simple Veda mantras like Sutras, Rudra and Chamaka. What prevents Brahmins from donating to Veda Patasalas and protection agencies?
6. Women’s dharmas starting from dress code, bringing up children, taking care of elders, preparing sattvic and nourishing food, guiding girls etc are mostly ignored as they are in a rush to go for their own jobs.
7. Protecting and welcoming relatives and guests: An atiti is a person who comes to your house without an appointment. We are supposed to welcome them and give them food etc. But today, even with appointment, many do not want any guests or relatives in their houses. Sastra says- take care of your parents, brothers, sisters, relatives and then others. Many have fought with many of their relatives and do not want them at their house. Instead they go to some (may be Christian run) orphanage and donate money! They are ready to have a dog or cat as a pet, but do not want guests or relatives at their home! When will they be able to do this atiti Dharma which is so easy and pleasant?
We can analyse each of our lapse and find out that many of the Sastra rules can still be followed. Many will be ready to give counter arguments for not following sastras. No need to point out some Sastras which we cannot follow today. Sastra itself says that when you are living in a large city, following a small part of the sastras is itself sufficient. We will not be able to comply 100%. But at least we can try to do as much as we can.
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Can we follow the sastras?
Brahmins have mostly drifted away from following the rules in the Sastras. Many can question the sastras. They can say that the sastras are not suited to the ‘modern’ age and need not be followed. Sastras themselves do not answer any of these questions. They only say that these are good for you. Not following them, you are going to land in misery. As Great Rishis have formed these sastras, it is our faith that they had long vision and did these for our good. Their idea is spiritual progress of everyone. Material comforts are needed but are not the goal.
These are some of the sastra rules which we have ignored. At least let us know which of these are really impossible to follow and which can still be followed.[/QUOTE]
1. Crossing the ocean: We are not only crossing the ocean but are settling down in foreign countries, getting foreign citizenship, proud to make our children as foreign born foreign citizens etc. Our main purpose of coming to these Mileccha lands is to earn a lot of money. Are material comforts our only aim? Once we have earned enough to lead a comfortable life in Bharat, should we continue to stay here? Why should we retire and bring up our children here? Can we think of leading a simple life in India?
2. Out of caste marriages, divorces, remarriages etc.: These are irreversible changes which puts Brahmins far from their practices. Should we not inculcate our values among our younger generations? Should we follow the western ways in these matters? If a person is stuck in one of these evils should he start saying that these are all ok for everyone? Should we not try to prevent others from getting into these misery creating practices?

considering the dearth of eligible young folks, and also, due to a shrinking marriage availability pool, looking across castes and language, maybe the only way, for many of our youths to find spouses. it is just not a single guy matching with a single girl. there are more factors in choosing spouses. ie 100 single guys and 100 single girls do not make 100 couple. lucky if 10 of them mate. probably even less. this is what i mean by shrinking availability choice pool.


3. Food habits: Now a days, vegetarian food is available in almost all parts of the world. Why should Brahmins eat meat and eggs? Some are proud to call themselves as an eggitarian! Why should they eat from outside their homes even during holidays and vacations? Even in India, Brahmins have started arranging non-Brahmin catering for their functions like upanayanam and marriages. They come with their uniforms with shoes and ties on and start serving food, many times with abundance of onions and Garlic? Is this a needed practice? If Brahmin cooks prepare and serve food wearing Vesty, is it below your prestige? Should the whole family go out and eat in expensive restaurants without any need for it? Is it a way of enjoying life? Eating simple vegetarian food prepared at home is possible to everyone with a family, at least once a day and during weekends.

brahmins used to eat meat in the vedic age. personally i like being a veggie, but i do not know why we have to bring scriptures into the practice of enjoying what we eat. where we live, our lifestyle and above all, conveniences, play a great role in our dietary habits. to bring morality into it, seems to me, absurd.

4. Performing Pitru Karyas: Many have started skipping even shraadhas in their homes. They say- “we have performed in Kashi once, hence we have given it up” or some such unacceptable reason. Instead of doing the shraadha, cooking by themselves, they hire some ‘Brahmin’ women cooks who do not follow the clean practices needed for it. Some even are arranging catering for shraadhas! They want the vadhyar to hurry and finish everything very fast. Can’t they eat late at least on the shraadha day? Some adopt the shortcut of giving rice and green banana (meant for very poor people) even when they are capable of doing a full shraadha. Amavasya, masya and Grahana Tarpanas are almost forgotten practices.

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5. Time shortage?: Most have given up Sandya vandana saying that they do not have time for it. Performing a karma late is allowed in sastras by giving prayaschitha argya etc. What prevents them from doing the nitya karmas on weekends? Only if the elders do it, their children will have a motivation to continue. There is no point in blaming the younger generation. They are not interested in learning simple Veda mantras like Sutras, Rudra and Chamaka. What prevents Brahmins from donating to Veda Patasalas and protection agencies?

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6. Women’s dharmas starting from dress code, bringing up children, taking care of elders, preparing sattvic and nourishing food, guiding girls etc are mostly ignored as they are in a rush to go for their own jobs.

to me this looks like various job descriptions - cook, home care, maid, et al, all put together. is there anywhere in the shastras, that says that women are humans too, that they have a right to be educated, have a right for self fulfillment and also a right to expect 50/50 help from the spouse.


7. Protecting and welcoming relatives and guests: An atiti is a person who comes to your house without an appointment. We are supposed to welcome them and give them food etc. But today, even with appointment, many do not want any guests or relatives in their houses. Sastra says- take care of your parents, brothers, sisters, relatives and then others. Many have fought with many of their relatives and do not want them at their house. Instead they go to some (may be Christian run) orphanage and donate money! They are ready to have a dog or cat as a pet, but do not want guests or relatives at their home! When will they be able to do this atiti Dharma which is so easy and pleasant?

which shastra says, 'take care of your friends and relatives'? does it say, how much to spend on them? have anyone realized how much it costs in terms of energy and money to entertain folks? has anyone wondered, that it is the womenfolk who has spend the extra time in the kitchen, catering to the whimsy orders of mama here, 'pondatti, kaappi konduvaaa'..just when the pondatti is taking a break. the idiots will never think, of themselves going to the kitchen and lighting the stove. and then they talk of shastra violations...

We can analyse each of our lapse and find out that many of the Sastra rules can still be followed. Many will be ready to give counter arguments for not following sastras. No need to point out some Sastras which we cannot follow today. Sastra itself says that when you are living in a large city, following a small part of the sastras is itself sufficient. We will not be able to comply 100%. But at least we can try to do as much as we can.

i think we are following a watered down version of what murali calls 'shastras'. many of these are practices, which we have attuned to be considered as 'done' following the wisdom of the 3 Cs - cash, convenience, comfort. the fact that we did not think it worthwhile to hold on, makes me suspect, that there was right from the start, no strong anchor of scriptures to hold them upright.

overall, i think, murali has bitten into sour grapes, and making a general note of displeasure with everything around him. i hope he recovers to his sunny and positive self soon. and throws away the blues.. :)
 
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Do you have shikhai?
Do you wear panchagejam always? Do u perform agnihotram every day? answer these questions and then i will answer urs
 
Shri Chandrasekharan,

The contravention of sastra items which are listed in the OP (crossing the ocean, marriages outside caste, non-veg. food, non-performance of pitru karmas, not doing sandhyavandan, women not following old rules, protecting relatives and guests) will not even constitute 1% of the injunctions/instructions contained in any of the (Dharma) Sastras which we refer to as sastras in ordinary parlance. This happens because of most brahmins are unable to study the sastras, their utter unfamiliarity with Sanskrit and the overzealousness of tabras to amass material wealth in preference to compliance with the sastras. Thus, by the time some tabras near their retirement age or have settled in life comfortably according to their plans and fulfilled all their ambitions, they start preaching to others as though they are the caretakers of sastras.

Is society today functioning as envisaged in those Dharma Sastras? Not at all. Hence these sastras are not relevant at all for society today. Our forefathers might have had "long vision" (சாளேஸ்வரம்?) or not, but they were pragmatic enough to change with the society and the times. Let us be contented to continue that tradition and let us not lament as this particular gentleman seems to be doing.
 
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