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Clarification on Birth Star

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Dear Friends,

Our Grand daughter Selvi R.Srimeenakshi was born at 9 AM on 10.04.2013 at Madurai (9* 56' N 78* 08'E + 5 hrs 12 mts GMT). Calender readings for the day are as follows: Krishnabaksha Ekadesi 17.30(PM 1.6), Sravishta 8.57 (AM 9.41), Thiyajyam 28.47, Siddha yogam 8.57 after that Amirtha Yogam.

Since she was born at 9 AM we asumed her Birth Star as Sravishta (4th part).

Due to age and other factors, our Family Astrologer, has discontinued writing Horoscopes. So we went for Computer Horoscope. To our surprise, Horoscope mentioned her Star as Sadhabishak (Ist part).

When approached, they explained that readings are taken taking into account Sunrise etc., and their readings and predictions are accurate.

Will somebody please clarify about the Birth Star of our Grand Daughter.

Thanks

R.Ramaswami
 
dear sir to day is april 5. i hope you have written the month as 4 instead of 3. As per driganitha panchangam on 10th march sunday chathurdasi thithi was there upto 2.32 am. and avittam star upto 1 pm. my dcomputer astro sign driganitha horoscope says avittam 4th padam. which is correct. may be they have taken pambu panchangam method?. avittam is correct.
 
To all friends. Sorry, A great mistake. Actual Date of Birth is 10.04.2010 and not 10.04.2013.

Regret for this great mistake.

R.Ramaswami
 
R.Ramaswami said:
Dear Friends,

Our Grand daughter Selvi R.Srimeenakshi was born at 9 AM on 10.04.2013 at Madurai (9* 56' N 78* 08'E + 5 hrs 12 mts GMT). Calender readings for the day are as follows: Krishnabaksha Ekadesi 17.30(PM 1.6), Sravishta 8.57 (AM 9.41), Thiyajyam 28.47, Siddha yogam 8.57 after that Amirtha Yogam.

Since she was born at 9 AM we asumed her Birth Star as Sravishta (4th part).

Due to age and other factors, our Family Astrologer, has discontinued writing Horoscopes. So we went for Computer Horoscope. To our surprise, Horoscope mentioned her Star as Sadhabishak (Ist part).

When approached, they explained that readings are taken taking into account Sunrise etc., and their readings and predictions are accurate.

Will somebody please clarify about the Birth Star of our Grand Daughter.

Thanks

R.Ramaswami
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Shri Ramaswami,

Our astrology has a lot of "holes" in it and the common people are not aware of all such things. Our astrology does not go by the astronomically observed/calculated positions of the planets etc., but on the basis of how all the planets etc., would have been positioned if we were living in the past and such past date varies, even now, from one astrologer to another, one computer programme to another. Usually, the positions change by a few degrees and this difference is known as "ayanamsa". At present there are the following different ayanamsas being followed by different schools:

Lahiri or Chitrapaksha (followed by most) (22 degrees 35 minutes 44.91 seconds less than astronomical calculations)
B.V. Raman's ayanamsa (1 degree 27 minutes less than Lahiri)
Deva Datta's ayanamsa (22 minutes 37 seconds less than Lahiri)
Krishnamoorthy (KP) (6 minutes 5.4 seconds less than Lahiri)
Usha-Shashi (3 degrees 48 minutes 16 seconds less than Lahiri)
Fagan (53 minutes 30 seconds more than Lahiri)

It is therefore quite possible that the 41 minutes of sravishta hot disappeared in one system and satabhisha already started. That is all the reliability of the way our astrology is practised. Please keep this in mind when you insist on jAtakapporuttham and all that when your grand daughter attains marriable age.
 
Dear Sir,

As per DHRIK GANITHA your grand daughter was born on Wednesday KALI DINA 1867937 in Utharayana Vasantha Rithou corresponding to 1188 MEENA 27th (Mal. Date) . Her birth Star is REVATHI 3rd PAADA
 
Unfortunately you have fallen a prey to digital stalwarts who are more interested in accuracy than in outcome. Like a doctor saying I will prescribe only when you bring reports of temperature to 2 decimal places, sugar level to three decimal places, lung volume to 0.001 ml and heart beat averaged over 10 minutes to get the required accuracy.

I had my horoscope cast 60 years ago by a neighbour anushtanic astrologer with the local panchangam and paper; he had to use addtion subtraction only when he did dasabhukti some years hence. Two years ago, when I got the computerised horoscope from a posh air conditioned astrohouse, there was no difference in the basic horoscope, planetary positions nad navamsam chart. Place of birth, Latitude, longitude, birth time as recorded in the original horoscope were the data used.

The traditional astrologer, like old doctors or chess players or finance wizards, ran through a large data base of possibilities and probabilities, and used their intuitive skills to give predictions - both positive and negative likelihoods with suggestions for mitigating negatives (like good doctors giving advice on side effects). Most important, the prediction was not universal, but intuition-ally tailored to the seeker (same hods good for spiritual aspirants also). Using a nasa computer or a planetarium software is neither essential nor will serve the main purpose - predictive astrology. More time spent on accuracy of calculations, ayanamsa, nasa's values for planetary positions and perturbations will not make one a good astrologer, only a moudika astronomer (because his main interest is not astronomy).

At least in 15 cases of horoscopes of near family members (cast decades ago) local josyar is as good as an ibm pc with the latest software.



sangom said:
Shri Ramaswami,

Our astrology has a lot of "holes" in it and the common people are not aware of all such things. Our astrology does not go by the astronomically observed/calculated positions of the planets etc., but on the basis of how all the planets etc., would have been positioned if we were living in the past and such past date varies, even now, from one astrologer to another, one computer programme to another. Usually, the positions change by a few degrees and this difference is known as "ayanamsa". At present there are the following different ayanamsas being followed by different schools:

Lahiri or Chitrapaksha (followed by most) (22 degrees 35 minutes 44.91 seconds less than astronomical calculations)
B.V. Raman's ayanamsa (1 degree 27 minutes less than Lahiri)
Deva Datta's ayanamsa (22 minutes 37 seconds less than Lahiri)
Krishnamoorthy (KP) (6 minutes 5.4 seconds less than Lahiri)
Usha-Shashi (3 degrees 48 minutes 16 seconds less than Lahiri)
Fagan (53 minutes 30 seconds more than Lahiri)

It is therefore quite possible that the 41 minutes of sravishta hot disappeared in one system and satabhisha already started. That is all the reliability of the way our astrology is practised. Please keep this in mind when you insist on jAtakapporuttham and all that when your grand daughter attains marriable age.
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sarang said:
Unfortunately you have fallen a prey to digital stalwarts who are more interested in accuracy than in outcome. Like a doctor saying I will prescribe only when you bring reports of temperature to 2 decimal places, sugar level to three decimal places, lung volume to 0.001 ml and heart beat averaged over 10 minutes to get the required accuracy.

I had my horoscope cast 60 years ago by a neighbour anushtanic astrologer with the local panchangam and paper; he had to use addtion subtraction only when he did dasabhukti some years hence. Two years ago, when I got the computerised horoscope from a posh air conditioned astrohouse, there was no difference in the basic horoscope, planetary positions nad navamsam chart. Place of birth, Latitude, longitude, birth time as recorded in the original horoscope were the data used.

The traditional astrologer, like old doctors or chess players or finance wizards, ran through a large data base of possibilities and probabilities, and used their intuitive skills to give predictions - both positive and negative likelihoods with suggestions for mitigating negatives (like good doctors giving advice on side effects). Most important, the prediction was not universal, but intuition-ally tailored to the seeker (same hods good for spiritual aspirants also). Using a nasa computer or a planetarium software is neither essential nor will serve the main purpose - predictive astrology. More time spent on accuracy of calculations, ayanamsa, nasa's values for planetary positions and perturbations will not make one a good astrologer, only a moudika astronomer (because his main interest is not astronomy).

At least in 15 cases of horoscopes of near family members (cast decades ago) local josyar is as good as an ibm pc with the latest software.
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Since your agenda seems mainly to be to counter or berate whatever I write, I have nothing to say. But do you have any idea as to how many panchangams were there 60 years ago and how the calculations of planetary positions in what you call "local Panchangam" were calculated? Most probably not. I have seen old panchangams which gave more or less correct readings except in the case of the fast moving planets & the moon, while some others showed large deviations in the case of saturn, rahu and ketu, the slow-moving ones. In the case of some particular births the differences are minor. May be your horoscope was one such.

As regards ability to predict or skill in predicting correctly, I did not make any claim and your aspersions directed at me only go to prove that despite the pious facade you try to put through your writings here, your mind is still vicious.

Anyway, I shall leave it to Shri Ramaswamy's choice to decide whose advice he should follow. And, you are free to berate, cast aspersions etc., against my writing if that brings mental peace to you.
 
If your Grand daughter was born at 9 AM on 10-4-2013 Her birth star as per DHRIK GANITHA is REVATHY 3rd SEGMENT. Her KOORU AND RAVI ARE IN MEENA. She was born on Wednesday. Utharayana Vasantha RUTHU corresponding to 1118 Meena 27th. Balane Dasa is 8years 4months and 21 days BUDHA MAHA DASA.

Regards and Namaskarams,
P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN
 
Dear Sri Ramaswamy,

The Date of Birth of your grand daughter as given now is 10-4-2010.09.00 hours at Madurai (TN) If this is final then as per DHRUK GANITHA the child was born in SHATHABHISHAK NAKSHATHRA (சதயம்) 1st Quarter in Utharayana Vasantha Rithou corresponding date in Malayalam 1185 Meena, 27th.
Thithi EKADASI. KRISHNA PAKSHA. The Running Mahadasa at birth is RAHU more than 17 years. RAASI or KOORU where Chandra situates is KUMBHA. ( I do not follow KP or VAAKYA GANITHA).

Regards and Namaskarams,
P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN
 
Raji Ram said:
Exactly, Sir! I did not think of it because in India we usually write in dd-mm-yyyy format.

But where is Sir. R. Ramaswami? Awaiting his reply post! :ranger:
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hi RR madam,

இராமசாமி மாமா ஊரில் இல்லை. வந்த பிறகு நீங்கள் கேட்டதாக சொல்லறேன்.....
 
tbs said:
........ இராமசாமி மாமா ஊரில் இல்லை. வந்த பிறகு நீங்கள் கேட்டதாக சொல்லறேன்.....
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ஓஹோ அப்படியா! மிக்க நன்றி! :​​)
 
Dear Sir,

You are right. I have corrected the date as 10-4-2010 and the Birth Star is SHATHA BHISHAK (சதயம்) 1st Quarter as per DHRUK GANITHA. The error if it was on my side is regretted. The birth took place on SATURDAY.EKADASHI, KRISHNA PAKSHA. Hope now you are satisfied. I do not cast any Horoscope in KP System or as per VAAKYA GANITHA. Although the present system adopted by me is in DHRUK GANITHA, I am of the opinion that there are slight chanes in DHRUK GANITHA also which is not adopted so far by astrologers.

Regards and Namaskarams,

P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN
 

Sri. Ramaswami has posted the correction long back! But since new member's posts go

for inspection at random, it appeared little late and confused many of us!! :confused:
 
Dear Sir,

Thanks a lot for the clarification. I have taken down the details in our Family Horoscope Note and will search for a local Astrologer to prepare the Horoscope.

Thanks once again and my humble namaskarams.

R.Ramaswami
 
Dear Sri. Sarang,

Although this is a bit belated reply, I would like to tell you that if a person adopts a new system which is easy, one has to appreciate it.
Instead , I find you are criticizing it." The old order changes yielding place to new". Do you think that what was written 60 years back by an astrologer is more accurate than what we write? If so, you are wrong. We must move fast. If we give accurate readings within few minutes, I feel it is good. Again I gave the reading for a date which is yet to come, because it was given by the affected person.
I also feel that I should not have given it since the date is yet to come I am sorry for that. However, I have corrected it.You might have seen the latest post, which I have made.

Regards and Namaskarams,

P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN
 
Dear Sri. SARANG,

Probably you know I am from Bangalore. I know personlly Dr. B.V.RAMAN who is no more now. He Was good in Astrology. But , I am sorry to sate that you have forgotten a name of Brahmashri. KATALANGUDI NATESHA SHAASTRIGAL, who is no more but very famous than Dr. B.V. RAMAN. You can get also books on Astrology from KADALANGUDI PUBLICATIONS, 72 BIG Street, THIRUVALLIKENI. Now it is run by his daughter or grand daughter. There are many authors of good Astrological Books. I use LAHIRI'S EPHEMERIES. I do not belong to PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGICAL GROUP.


Regarding PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY, I am to state that it is a vast subject and even an expert can commit mistakes while predicting.

Regards and Namaskarams,

P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN
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Dear Ma'm,

We make the horoscopes with Computers and soft wares. In my opinion it is SATABHISHAK lst PAADAM only. There can be difference if you make from a person using VAAKYA GANITHA. (சதயம் பாதம் 1) . This is made as per DHRUK GANITHA.

Regards and Namaskarams,
P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN
 
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