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Evidence of conducting Puja alone cannot determine if someone is a Hindu

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Conversions are regularly happening in Tamil Nadu..Is it to get back the reservations that such gimmicks are being adopted?


Evidence of conducting puja alone cannot define a Hindu, says HC - The Times of India

CHENNAI: Holding that not conducting puja by a Hindu in puja room regularly cannot be a conclusive proof to declare that he is not a Hindu, the Madras high court has quashed cancellation of community certificate of a dalit panchayat president, who had reconverted from Christianity.

A division bench comprising Justice N Paul Vasanthakumar and Justice K Ravichandra Baabu, concurring with the submissions of senior advocate K Duraisamy on Thursday, said the village administrative officer and the revenue divisional officer were not correct in concluding that K Vasikaran was not a Hindu, merely because his house had a puja room but there was no evidence of prayer/puja there. They also reported that words from the Bible were found at the house and a cross had been inscribed on its pillars.

Vasikaran was elected president of Gerugambakkam panchayat, which is a local body reserved for dalits, in October 2011. After the poll loss, his rival candidate moved the state election commission to strip him of the post, saying he was a Christian and that his community certificate too should be cancelled. The matter was referred to the revenue authorities for filing of a report.

The officials visited his home and held inquiries before submitting a report favouring cancellation of the dalit certificate.

Vasikaran said the district collector had sent his notices to an addressee K Victor, which was his name when he was Christian. He had become a Hindu by undergoing a 'shuddhi' ceremony by the Arya Samaj at Chennai, and a certificate too has been given by the organisation. Noting that his community has accepted him, he said he had polled more than 2,600 votes, which was another indication of acceptance by his community.

Concurring with him, the bench said Vasikaran had been described as a dalit in his school certificate in 1989. The Sriperumpudur tahsildar issued a proper community certificate in 1996. But, his poll rivals had not raked up his caste status before the election, the bench said.
 
Hey this is good yaar..this story..
Previously people were converting from Hinduism to other religions for some personal gain but now looks like Hinduism has a good market value again!

Good Good..after all everyone prays for some gain..so this guy want some political mileage..its his form of Phala Shruti for reconverting from Christianity to Hinduism.

May be one should modify Phala Shrutis and add political mileage to the list of Ratha,Gajendra Turanga yuktam..Laksmin sadaiva sumukhi pradadati Shambho!
 
in a democracy it is all about numbers and power.

which is why the indian muslims continue to have large families. in fact there was a statement a few years ago by an islamic cleric in scandinavia, who said that based on the current birth rate, muslims could be majority in certain countries of europe in a couple of hundred years.

the indian christians i think gave up on this only recently. in my time, i remember, my catholic neighbour had 7 kids after following the edicts of the church ie avoid birth control.

all this crazy things happen only in indian democracy. though i heard in malaysia too, there are skirmishes between muslim boys and the chinese/hindu girls, who by law have to convert to islam, if they marry a muslim. fanatically crazy i think, for which, no other group has a cogent answer.
 
I am not sure the problem in OP is correctly understood. Because this is a reserved constituency, the rival candidate who filed this case against Mr. Vasikaran must also belong to the SC community. Is this just political rivalry that is being played as a communal/ conversion problem?
 
கால பைரவன்;212999 said:
I am not sure the problem in OP is correctly understood. Because this is a reserved constituency, the rival candidate who filed this case against Mr. Vasikaran must also belong to the SC community. Is this just political rivalry that is being played as a communal/ conversion problem?

KB, still SC implies hindu. once you convert to islam or xtianity, there should be no SC. after all the chief attraction of these religions is that they are supposed to be 'casteless'. atleast that is their claim.
 
KB, still SC implies hindu. once you convert to islam or xtianity, there should be no SC. after all the chief attraction of these religions is that they are supposed to be 'casteless'. atleast that is their claim.

Shri Kunjuppu,

It is a public secret at least in India that a SC convert to other religions is looked down upon by the higher caste converts in those religions. In short, caste is so deeply engraved in the Indian mind!

Whatever may be the other reasons for the OP judgment by the HC, I feel that it does a good thing to attract converts from SC, ST, Dalits etc., to at least undergo some kind of Shuddhi ceremony and come back to the hindu fold at least for purposes of record. Hence we may welcome the decision.
 


Shri Kunjuppu,

It is a public secret at least in India that a SC convert to other religions is looked down upon by the higher caste converts in those religions. In short, caste is so deeply engraved in the Indian mind!

Whatever may be the other reasons for the OP judgment by the HC, I feel that it does a good thing to attract converts from SC, ST, Dalits etc., to at least undergo some kind of Shuddhi ceremony and come back to the hindu fold at least for purposes of record. Hence we may welcome the decision.

sangom,

i agree with you. the way the population is curving, i think, within a 100 years, hindus will have a unity forced on them, through sheer numbers of the minorities. something like what happened in kerala. hindus of any caste, will be thinking as one. i think.

that feeling is already there outside of india - in the west, though not in singapore or malaysia or maybe even in sri lanka.
 
KB, still SC implies hindu. once you convert to islam or xtianity, there should be no SC. after all the chief attraction of these religions is that they are supposed to be 'casteless'. atleast that is their claim.

But then the defintion of hindu is quite loose. It is not easy to prove that somebody is NOT a Hindu unless the person himself states that he is not a hindu. And is it not the case that the justification often provided in support of reservation, including your own, is the past oppression based on caste? If we go with this, on what basis can quotas be denied because of conversion, as conversion today does not change the past? It is time for GOI to clear these things up so that people like this defendant, if he lied about his religion, do not have to do so in order to enjoy the quota.
 
BTW, the title of the thread, which came from title of the news article is quite misleading. The body of the article talks about courts refusing to declare someone as a non-hindu on account of someone not conducting a pooja. The title does not reflect the court's ruling and could mean quite the opposite thing.
 
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