• This forum contains old posts that have been closed. New threads and replies may not be made here. Please navigate to the relevant forum to create a new thread or post a reply.
  • Welcome to Tamil Brahmins forums.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our Free Brahmin Community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Funeral & Rites of Unmarried Teenagers

Status
Not open for further replies.
I know of an unmarried, teen, male who passed away at the age of 18. His cause of death was due to a sudden unexpected bad accident. The boy had great dreams and ambitions in life and passed away at a very young age. His father did his death rites, 8th day prayers, 16th day prayers, and 30th day prayers.

The father offer athma shanti prayer for him every amavasai at the nearby Shivan temple. They also offer athma shanti during his birthday, death day and death tithi. However, they do not offer prayers for him at home.

Different priest and different iyers and different astrologers tell different rules and different concepts on what should be done for him.

One priest suggest that: athma shanti must be done for the boy by his father every amavasai and death tithi date. In addition, prayers (food, fruits, clothing and etc) must be offered to him (photo) before any major events and festivals. This is what the family is doing currently. Sometimes the family, does offer pindam in Rameshwaram for him, once in a while / occasionally.

Another priest suggest that: they should NOT do athma shanti every amavasai or during his tithi. Since he died early with lot of ambitions and in a bad accident, his soul does not move on because we do not allow it to move on. Therefore, no tithi, no athma santhi, and no prayers should be offered to this boy. Instead charity should be done in his name to the poor. In addition, we should not keep any items that is related to him nor his memories in the house.

Different priest tell different stories and we are very confused on what the vedas and puranas teach exactly. For an unmarried, teenage boy who died in a bad accident, what should be done and what should be avoided? What are the rituals that we need to do, according to the vedas and what we should not be doing?

We know that for our Pithru or fathers or mothers or grandparents, we can do athma shanti, offer pindam, do tithi prayers, offer food and clothes to their pictures whenever we feel like. We are very confused with the tradition and rituals.

Therefore, it will be great to know what the veda and purana reveal about the rituals for those who died unexpectedly. Can we continue to do athma shanti prayers at shivan temples during amavasai for this boy and offer pindam for him and do tithi for him? Can we offer pindam and prayers for him in Rameshwaram and Kashi?

Please advice with reference to the vedas. Thanks.
 
Dear Ramesh

since the boy's death is in his tean age before marriage. his father is alive I dont know whether his grand father is alive. as per rituvals it is not possibe to
include his athma with existing pithrus his father is doirng tharpanam etc only for his self satisfaction. Dharmasatrasm, tells like these cases Naraya bali to be offered to that athma and make that soul to be immensed with Loard Narayana. then his soul will not exist in pthru loka so usual tharpanam srartham or not necessary if we want to do we can do it for our satiscactin without any rituvals. as per trituals it is not possible to the best of my knowledge

Rajappa Namakkal.
 
Thank you so much sir Rajappa Ji.

1. The teenager boy's paternal grandparents have passed away!
2. You suggest that we should stop doing tarpanam and athma shanti for him?
3. He passed away in 2006! Can his father do Narayana Bali for him in kasi?
4. What can we do so that his soul will go in peace as he fell from a height in an accident (sleep walking)!
5. Can Narayana Bali be done often or only once?
6. Can we offer prayers to his picture at home? With food and clothes?
 
I know of an unmarried, teen, male who passed away at the age of 18. His cause of death was due to a sudden unexpected bad accident. The boy had great dreams and ambitions in life and passed away at a very young age. His father did his death rites, 8th day prayers, 16th day prayers, and 30th day prayers.

The father offer athma shanti prayer for him every amavasai at the nearby Shivan temple. They also offer athma shanti during his birthday, death day and death tithi. However, they do not offer prayers for him at home.

Different priest and different iyers and different astrologers tell different rules and different concepts on what should be done for him.

One priest suggest that: athma shanti must be done for the boy by his father every amavasai and death tithi date. In addition, prayers (food, fruits, clothing and etc) must be offered to him (photo) before any major events and festivals. This is what the family is doing currently. Sometimes the family, does offer pindam in Rameshwaram for him, once in a while / occasionally.

Another priest suggest that: they should NOT do athma shanti every amavasai or during his tithi. Since he died early with lot of ambitions and in a bad accident, his soul does not move on because we do not allow it to move on. Therefore, no tithi, no athma santhi, and no prayers should be offered to this boy. Instead charity should be done in his name to the poor. In addition, we should not keep any items that is related to him nor his memories in the house.

Different priest tell different stories and we are very confused on what the vedas and puranas teach exactly. For an unmarried, teenage boy who died in a bad accident, what should be done and what should be avoided? What are the rituals that we need to do, according to the vedas and what we should not be doing?

We know that for our Pithru or fathers or mothers or grandparents, we can do athma shanti, offer pindam, do tithi prayers, offer food and clothes to their pictures whenever we feel like. We are very confused with the tradition and rituals.

Therefore, it will be great to know what the veda and purana reveal about the rituals for those who died unexpectedly. Can we continue to do athma shanti prayers at shivan temples during amavasai for this boy and offer pindam for him and do tithi for him? Can we offer pindam and prayers for him in Rameshwaram and Kashi?

Please advice with reference to the vedas. Thanks.

Shri Ramesh,

It is not clear whether the deceased 18 year old boy was a brahmin or not.

From the words like atmashanti I feel that the deceased in this instance is a non-brahmin. The usual custom among brahmins in similar instances is to give set of fresh clothes and give meals to two brahmins, one of which should be an unmarried boy (if the people are rich enough, instead of two, three people could be fed, one of them being a brahmachari). This is done every year on the tithi of the deceased boy.

I have heard of Narayana Bali only during the first 13 days after demise, not thereafter; this Narayana Bali is to compensate for the death in accident, not a normal death.

Matters like this are not discussed in the veda, but the Dharmasastras of ancient rishis are the authority. Offerng of pindam is not envisaged for such cases of deaths, but as and when the brothers or paternal cousins of this deceased boy get male children, those cousins may also do the abovesaid feeding of two or three brahmins once (soon after the male baby is born and the 'theettu' is over for mother & child, because this deceased boy will become a pitru for the new-born and it is always considered beneficial to remember the deceased pitru and obtain his blessings for the child.

No other rite is required, imho.
 
A proper Hindu funeral was conducted for the boy. However, we did not do Narayana Bali. However, all other rituals and ceremony done for an adult man was done for him. The deceased boy's father is planning to go to Kasi soon. Can he perform any specific prayers or donate to Brahmin in Kasi to help the soul attain peace? Since athma shanti and pindam is not suppose to be done for the deceased boy.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest ads

Back
Top