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Hind Swaraj vs Hindu Rashtra

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The BJP single handedly winning the majority has raised hopes of a Hindu Rashtra! NaMo is the best bet for that; though he may not be in a hurry for that..The last 45 days of his rule shows he is flexible; he is not a megalomaniac as made out by the media earlier...I think he wants to first mend the bridges with the Global community, looking at the spate of foreign jaunts planned by him this year.

Tho' the author of the article who studied in JNU & Oxford below has left leanings & is considered a left liberal, I would like to post this to show her views on Savarkar who became the President of the Hindu Mahasabha, the precursor of Jan Sangh and the current day avatar BJP



Hind Swaraj vs Hindu Rashtra


Ananya Vajpeyi


July 12, 2014
Hindutva is a historic and possibly doomed attempt to change everything about Hinduism that makes it what it is — its ability to accommodate mind-boggling diversity, its avoidance of strict definitions and boundaries, its amorphous, heterogeneous, tolerant and fluid character


The 2014 national election, resulting in a decisive victory for the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), seems to have thrown the Indian commentariat into ideological disarray. Intellectuals and opinion-makers who have professed particular beliefs and held certain positions for the longest time, appear now to be changing their views. This began happening during the campaign, continued through the election, and has become routine in the new dispensation.

Larger changes in the media, in institutions of research and higher education, and the electoral rout of the Congress and Left parties add to the general climate of confusion and mistrust. Each day it appears that one more person whose voice carries weight comes out to endorse Narendra Modi’s regime. Criticism is replaced with qualified support, while in some cases the reverse is true — heartfelt enthusiasm is replaced with bitter condemnation of the Prime Minister and his team. Nobody knows any more who is with us and who is with them; who is on the left and who is on the right.
Fading secular opinion

In an earlier piece in The Hindu (April 9, 2014), I had suggested that the “euphemistic contract” leading some commentators to pass over Mr. Modi’s Hindutva agenda and turn a blind eye to his complicity in the violence of Gujarat 2002 needed to be broken if there was to be some chance of curbing or defeating the BJP at the hustings. Others argued that his veiled and explicit stances against minorities worked in his favour, and increased his popularity rather than damaging his image. Whatever the case, his party won the majority of seats and he was able to form the government.
Mr. Modi has begun appointing individuals who are adherents or sympathisers of the hardline Hindu fundamentalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) to serve as ministers and as heads of cultural and educational institutions. He has shown little interest in the services of former secularists, liberals and feminists who had indicated their willingness, even eagerness, to work with him once he took office. The fact that neither the Congress nor the Left seem any longer to be conversant with or proud of the left-liberal political traditions that dominated Indian politics since independence, drives the final nail into the coffin of secular opinion.


A face-off between majoritarians and egalitarians, between the Sangh Parivar and secular-liberal parties, has been a long time coming. This election may have turned the tide, but the build-up began close to a century ago. The RSS was founded in 1925. The Bharatiya Jana Sangh was founded in 1952. The BJP was founded in 1980. Considerable gains were made by the Hindu Right during the Ram Janambhoomi movement, climaxing in the demolition of the Babri Masjid at Ayodhya in December 1992 and nationwide Hindu-Muslim rioting.


The National Democratic Alliance, headed by the BJP, had its first substantial stint in government from 1998 to 2004. Seen in this chronology, Hindu nationalism punctuates the entire 20th century at intervals of 20-30 years, but it is never able to decisively transform the mindset of most Indians. Even today, when the BJP polled 31 per cent of votes cast, it is not clear whether it is the party's Hindutva face or its face of economic growth that appealed to voters.


The problem with Hindutva



The problem with Hindutva, which has impeded its capture of the average Hindu’s political and cultural imagination, is that it is the outcome not so much of hatred for others, especially Muslims, but rather of Hindu self-hate. It’s a historic and possibly doomed attempt to change everything about Hinduism that makes it what it is — its ability to accommodate mind-boggling diversity, its avoidance of strict definitions and boundaries, its amorphous, heterogeneous, tolerant and fluid character.


Hindutva wants to “Semitize” Hinduism, giving it a god, a book, a revelation, a prophet, an ecclesiastical order, a pontiff, a race, a language, a country (or a holy land), a history, a canon, doctrinal stability and missionary zeal. It’s an attempt to standardise, essentialise, codify and systematise a vast universe of incommensurate beliefs, practices, rituals, theologies and narratives — to render Hinduism modern and modular.

Vinayak Savarkar’s manifesto for Hindu nationalism, Hindutva (1923, 1928), was conceived and written over several years of solitary confinement and hard labour in British jails on the Andaman islands and in coastal Maharashtra — Savarkar was sentenced to two consecutive life-terms for anti-government activities. His sentence was later commuted but the trauma never left him. Hindutva opens with its most definitive claim: “A Hindu means a person who regards this land of Bharatvarsha, from the Indus to the seas, as his Fatherland as well as his Holy Land, that is, the cradle of his religion.” Savarkar wants to imbue Hinduism with all the qualities it lacks — and thus his coinage, Hindutva. A true Hindu, in his estimation, has in him something better than and apart from mere Hindu-ism — he has Hindu-ness.


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A face-off between majoritarians and egalitarians, between the Sangh Parivar and secular-liberal parties, has been a long time coming. This election may have turned the tide, but the build-up began close to a century ago
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In order to possess Hindutva, a man (because Hindu nationalists tend to think in rigidly gendered, masculinist and patriarchal terms) must regard India as his “fatherland” (the land of his ancestors, pitr-bhumi) and his “holy land” (the land where he accumulates the fruits of good karma, punya-bhumi); he must be attached to this land, this territorial expanse called “Bharat” through the fact of his birth there, through ties of blood to his family, his forefathers, his race of fellow-Hindus, and moreover through a love for Hindu “civilization” (sanskriti) “as represented in a common history, common heroes, a common literature, a common art, a common law and a common jurisprudence, common fairs and festivals, rites and rituals, ceremonies and sacraments.” His insistence on what is “common” between the innumerable “Hindu” cultures of the subcontinent comes precisely from the impossibility of stating where exactly lies this commonality, so fervently desired by Savarkar.

If Hinduism is centrifugal, Hindutva is centripetal. Savarkar responded to the demands and pressures of modern nationalism — he was not only disinterested in, but perhaps even averse to, the religious life of millions of Hindus. It’s interesting and entirely reasonable that Savarkar was a thorough atheist. For him, being a Hindu was a political identity, not an identity based on religion. Even Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and Buddhists, so long as they are born and raised in India, and follow the Indian way of life, are thus de facto “Hindus.” Hindutva is a pure construct, a completely empty envelope that Savarkar creates from his own mind as he spends decades locked away, utterly segregated from the shared collective life of his fellow-Indians.


Gandhi vs Savarkar


Mohandas Gandhi’s vision for the future was swaraj or self-rule, where the “self” was at once each individual struggling to master inner demons, and a vast aggregation of millions in search of India’s independence from British rule. Gandhi himself was deeply religious, but he never defined the “self” of “self-rule,” the swa- of swaraj, as Hindu, Muslim or even Indian. It was Gandhi’s quest for the self and for its sovereignty that carried the day, creating the decades-long struggle which eventually liberated India. Savarkar became president of the Hindu Mahasabha — the precursor to the BJP — in 1937, firmly opposing Gandhi’s non-violence, his “Quit India” movement, the rise of the Muslim League and the creation of Pakistan through Partition.


When Savarkar’s acolyte Nathuram Godse shot at Gandhi on January 30, 1948, at the Mahatma’s daily public prayer meeting, ironically, Gandhi’s dying words were those of a devout Hindu: “Hey Rama!” In the wake of the Mahatma's assassination, Savarkar had to retreat from public view for the remainder of his life. He was regarded with intense dislike, suspicion and contempt by Nehru and other leaders who constituted the top echelons of the Congress administration. Nobody from the Maharashtra government attended his funeral in February 1966.


Today, for the first time the RSS can dream of a restitution of Savarkar in the modern national pantheon. The question is, have decades of official secularism made Indians, more than 80 per cent of whom are Hindu, receptive or hostile to the father of the Hindu Right? Can ordinary Hindus look upon him with a fresh perspective, or has history left him behind in the dust?


Recently, I was startled to see in the Central Hall of Parliament a portrait of Savarkar staring at Gandhi’s portrait directly across the length of the room, symbolising a foundational antagonism written into the very genealogy of our nation-state. It is Hind Swaraj pitted against Hindu Rashtra. Indian intellectuals, understandably feeling bruised and buffeted by enormous political changes, would do well to remember that the roots of their present ideological conflicts go back to the beginnings of organised nationalist politics, and that questions of ideology are unlikely to be settled in a hurry.


(Ananya Vajpeyi is the author of
Righteous Republic: The Political Foundations of Modern India, HUP, 2012. E-mail: [email protected])


Hind Swaraj vs Hindu Rashtra - The Hindu
 
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BJP needs to shrug off its image as a Hindu party and project itself as a true national party. But by shrugging off its image as a Hindu party it should not do away with its attachment to religion and by real implication, what can edify.

It has to adopt as its core philosophy the best and the unifying features of religions and uphold them. BJP has to unite and rule. If one is in grip of oneself one can easily and naturally steer others and for this an all-embracing attitude is a sine qua non.I think the party has the discipline and also a strong and innovative leader who can take the party in this direction.

I think the idea of Sarvarkar as presented in the article is basically flawed and Mahatma Gandhi's notion of self rule in the sense of political, intellectual and other independence is far far visionary.
 
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Vganeji,
Nice article, thanks for posting. To me the most revealing para was:
In order to possess Hindutva, a man (because Hindu nationalists tend to think in rigidly gendered, masculinist and patriarchal terms) must regard India as his “fatherland” (the land of his ancestors, pitr-bhumi) and his “holy land” (the land where he accumulates the fruits of good karma, punya-bhumi); he must be attached to this land, this territorial expanse called “Bharat” through the fact of his birth there, through ties of blood to his family, his forefathers, his race of fellow-Hindus, and moreover through a love for Hindu “civilization” (sanskriti) “as represented in a common history, common heroes, a common literature, a common art, a common law and a common jurisprudence, common fairs and festivals, rites and rituals, ceremonies and sacraments.” His insistence on what is “common” between the innumerable “Hindu” cultures of the subcontinent comes precisely from the impossibility of stating where exactly lies this commonality, so fervently desired by Savarkar.

I am proud of my heritage. I am happy to call myself a Hindu. At the same time I would like others to have their own views on their religion. Religion is highly individualistic, no two person has identical views. My religion allows me to be me, without some one else telling me how to live it. That is the beauty of Hinduism. I am not for group religion. In the temple in my town we have very many idols from Nava Graha to Mahavir Jain. I am perfectly at peace with what we accomplished. We celebrate Iyappa puja to Rath Yatra. The diversity is our unity.
 
Dear Shri Prasad,

My view is religions have taught man universal and eternal principles almost without exception. But bigotry somehow enters all the religions. It is good to be different but not good to be intolerant. Let us embrace the universal and eternal and discourage bigotry. That is the tenor of my post.
 
The article very cleverly tries to pit hindutva against Hindus. The fact is hindutva has become a political necessity. Without them the sickulars will have a free run who will continue to ride roughshod over Hindus.

But Modi's government so far has been hugely a disappointment. Communal discrimination has not subsided. MSDP continues. Preferential treatment for minority poor continues. RTE exemptions continue. Nothing has really changed.
 
கால பைரவன்;253624 said:
The article very cleverly tries to pit hindutva against Hindus. The fact is hindutva has become a political necessity. Without them the sickulars will have a free run who will continue to ride roughshod over Hindus.

But Modi's government so far has been hugely a disappointment. Communal discrimination has not subsided. MSDP continues. Preferential treatment for minority poor continues. RTE exemptions continue. Nothing has really changed.


May be Modi is wary of doing it immediately..The current dispensation has a saffron tinge..Nothing beyond...Looks like the key members of the cabinet led by Jaitley and Swaraj are against the hard core variety...Recently during elections when there was a controversy over using Lord Ram's picture in the backdrop of stage during a rally in U.P, Jaitley said that it was an error of judgment
 
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Most of the comments critisize the author and the hindu as they have understood the real intention of both - anti hindu and anti hindutva. People have become wiser, but the left intellectuals have not seen the wind direction. The author has written several anti hindu articles and belongs to the psec brigade. Discerning readers must be aware of this.

கால பைரவன்;253624 said:
The article very cleverly tries to pit hindutva against Hindus. The fact is hindutva has become a political necessity. Without them the sickulars will have a free run who will continue to ride roughshod over Hindus.

But Modi's government so far has been hugely a disappointment. Communal discrimination has not subsided. MSDP continues. Preferential treatment for minority poor continues. RTE exemptions continue. Nothing has really changed.
 
The author of this article is well known critic of Hindu rightists views. I have posted the following comments in The Hindu website for the article:

Brahmanyan

"This is the type of writing drives the modern educated youth in our Country to think on religious lines and shun the Parties which advocate so called "Secularism". The result is unification of majority community, which gave resounding majority to rightist Party BJP. Common man is not worried about any of the things the writer has written, he wants development and for which he wants a leader to lead them. Mr Modi has shown that he can bring results in development."
 
Well said sir. More people have Indian mindset now. All can see what is happening in other countries and the destructive effects of western and secular ideologies. A new generation of historians and social scientists are waiting to correct the cultural damage done in the last two centuries.

The author of this article is well known critic of Hindu rightists views. I have posted the following comments in The Hindu website for the article:

Brahmanyan

"This is the type of writing drives the modern educated youth in our Country to think on religious lines and shun the Parties which advocate so called "Secularism". The result is unification of majority community, which gave resounding majority to rightist Party BJP. Common man is not worried about any of the things the writer has written, he wants development and for which he wants a leader to lead them. Mr Modi has shown that he can bring results in development."
 
It is high time that the sections outside the hinduism understand what is their true worth. Whatever they may say, whether they like it or not, for a Hindu this land is the Mathru Bhoomi (motherland) pithru bhoomi(fatherland), Punya bhoomi and Karma bhoomi. He does not look far away to Italy or the Gulf for his punya bhoomi or karma bhoomi.

Breathes there the man with soul so dead
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
Whose heart hath ne’er within him burned,
As home his footsteps he hath turned
From wandering on a foreign strand!
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonored , and unsung. (Sir Walter Scott)

 
I feel sometimes the Hindutva Concept takes things overboard and people who subscribe to it eventually get Persecution Complex and feel everyone is trying to cause decline in Dharma and react in a very impulsive manner.

Frankly speaking I dont think Sanathana Dharma has room for Hindutva cos any form of extremism in thought, word or deed is not the Sanathana Dharma way of life.

Sometimes extremism is like Impotency..all talk but NO action!LOL
 
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Even the court has observed that hindutva is sanatana dharma. Denigrating hindutva, in fact bharateeyata, is the favourite pastime of secularists. The smog spread by the hate mongers of all hues is fast clearing.

I feel sometimes the Hindutva Concept takes things overboard and people who subscribe to it eventually get Persecution Complex and feel everyone is trying to cause decline in Dharma and react in a very impulsive manner.

Frankly speaking I dont think Sanathana Dharma has room for Hindutva cos any form of extremism in thought, word or deed is not the Sanathana Dharma way of life.

Sometimes extremism is like Impotency..all talk but NO action!LOL
 
Even the court has observed that hindutva is sanatana dharma. Denigrating hindutva, in fact bharateeyata, is the favourite pastime of secularists. The smog spread by the hate mongers of all hues is fast clearing.


Dear sir,

I am not denigrating Hindutva...in fact I would say the same thing about the Jihadists from another religion too cos extremism of any form brings a bad name to religion.

The actual meaning of Jihad is a struggle for the battle of senses but actually misused by terrorist in spreading extremism.

I am not preaching secularism cos technically secularism does not exists..its just grin and bear.

If people could adopt a less emotional approach to life without identifying themselves to any form of extremism the world would be a better place.

If you ask me I feel any form of extremism is actually a lack of confidence..its should be 'I am a Hindu and I know it" and not having to remind oneself on daily basis "I am a Hindu.. I am a Hindu" non stop and get worked up about it.

Any form of extremism is impulsive..its seldom has growth for the intellect.
 
Dear sir,

I am not denigrating Hindutva...in fact I would say the same thing about the Jihadists from another religion too cos extremism of any form brings a bad name to religion.

The actual meaning of Jihad is a struggle for the battle of senses but actually misused by terrorist in spreading extremism.

I am not preaching secularism cos technically secularism does not exists..its just grin and bear.

If people could adopt a less emotional approach to life without identifying themselves to any form of extremism the world would be a better place.

If you ask me I feel any form of extremism is actually a lack of confidence..its should be 'I am a Hindu and I know it" and not having to remind oneself on daily basis "I am a Hindu.. I am a Hindu" non stop and get worked up about it.

Any form of extremism is impulsive..its seldom has growth for the intellect.

I have no idea what Hindutva actually means...

I found the following - "In a 1995 judgment, the Supreme Court of India ruled that "Ordinarily, Hindutva is understood as a way of life or a state of mind and is not to be equated with or understood as religious Hindu fundamentalism ... it is a fallacy and an error of law to proceed on the assumption ... that the use of words Hindutva or Hinduism per se depicts an attitude hostile to all persons practising any religion other than the Hindu religion ...


The source is a wikipedia link.


Genuine freedom of expression is in the life blood of most teaching that come under Hindu umbrella - the practice over several thousand years proves that.

Do you have an example of what you mean by this statement - "Hindutva Concept takes things overboard and people who subscribe to it eventually get Persecution Complex "
 
Dear sir,

I am not denigrating Hindutva...in fact I would say the same thing about the Jihadists from another religion too cos extremism of any form brings a bad name to religion.

The actual meaning of Jihad is a struggle for the battle of senses but actually misused by terrorist in spreading extremism.

I am not preaching secularism cos technically secularism does not exists..its just grin and bear.

If people could adopt a less emotional approach to life without identifying themselves to any form of extremism the world would be a better place.

If you ask me I feel any form of extremism is actually a lack of confidence..its should be 'I am a Hindu and I know it" and not having to remind oneself on daily basis "I am a Hindu.. I am a Hindu" non stop and get worked up about it.

Any form of extremism is impulsive..its seldom has growth for the intellect.

Renukaji,

If you look at the history of Hindutva, it was formed as a reaction to the minority appeasement (vote bank politics)..It started with the 2 nation theory by the M fundamentalists ably supported by the white masters who broke the country into 3 parts...The Congress was hand in glove with these separatists..OK..We have 3 nations...Did all the M from India go their dream land..The answer was No. They stayed back, had their Madarsa education ...Mullas and Maulvis indoctrinated them to multiply and not follow the rule of land but go for separate legal system(Shariat courts)

While the M were asked by Gandhiji to stay back in India, the Hindus in the M nations were massacred, woman and children kidnapped and forced to change religion resulting in reverse migration of Hindus from those countries!

The electoral politics helped Congress and the other regional parties go for mass M appeasement..Also they wanted to divide Hindus and pitted one caste over the other for vote bank politics with consummate ease..

This was followed by the Congress which was taken over by a Roman Catholic lady who ruled the country by proxy..She had her own whims and fancies..Along with M appeasement C appeasement also started and foreign funded missionaries were given a free run in the country to spearhead Conversion and change the country's demographics!

So what you call extremism is a natural reaction to the political events that unfounded in India since the beginning of the 20th century!

A cultural revolution is taking place in India! We hope to see a new India blossoming!!
 
Do you have an example of what you mean by this statement - "Hindutva Concept takes things overboard and people who subscribe to it eventually get Persecution Complex "

Just subscribe to Hindu Jagruti Samaj via email and you will know the answer..everything and anything is made into a religious cause for protest.

Even rape is seen as a religious oriented crime if the rapist is a Non Hindu and the victim is a Hindu.

I dont know why they dont protest when Dalit women get raped by Hindu upper caste men?
 
Just subscribe to Hindu Jagruti Samaj via email and you will know the answer..everything and anything is made into a religious cause for protest.

Even rape is seen as a religious oriented crime if the rapist is a Non Hindu and the victim is a Hindu.

I dont know why they dont protest when Dalit women get raped by Hindu upper caste men?

Thanks for the reference ..

Why is it that organization is supposed to represent the meaning of Hinduism or the term Hindutva in your mind?
 
Elementary! Only crimes against Hindus are not reported in any media. Even minor offences by Hindus against non hindu minorities and hindu alleged low castes get Himalayan attention and looped broadcasting. For eg one riot killing of a Muslim in my town set the secularists on boil with month long reporting, and murder of dozens of Hindus by Muslims in tamilnadu and Kerala was not given a single column. It is a sensitive topic for this forum.

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Just subscribe to Hindu Jagruti Samaj via email and you will know the answer..everything and anything is made into a religious cause for protest.

Even rape is seen as a religious oriented crime if the rapist is a Non Hindu and the victim is a Hindu.

I dont know why they dont protest when Dalit women get raped by Hindu upper caste men?
 
There are two extreme ways of dealing with a mind soaked in perversion which seems to be pervasive in our society. One is try to reason and appeal to the intellect so that the message reaches their mind. Thought the traditional form of this approach is to do straightforward reasoning this has its drawbacks as history would strongly attest to what would be the fate to even men of impeccable intellect and wisdom such as the Christ and the Mahatma. The modern variant would be to still try to appeal to the intellect though we can allow devious ways of putting across the message. The idea is to mentally overwhelm the opponent in his own game.

The other and a more natural reaction is in the way of physical extremism.

Let me offer a disclaimer that I am not advocating mental deviousness or physical extremism per se but only suggesting they could be natural reactions to something that seems impermeable to reason or tractable in normal ways.
 
I am not denigrating Hindutva...in fact I would say the same thing about the Jihadists from another religion too cos extremism of any form brings a bad name to religion.

I am going to pretend to be the sole (self proclaimed) "The protector" of Hindu, India, etc.
How do you dare to question me, don't you see that I am covered in the Indian Flag (or it in Saffron)?
You live outside of India, so you can not talk about India.
You are not a true Born Tamil Brahmin, how dare you talk about us?
You are women, stick to kitchen, and serve your husband and children.

Sorry for distracting away from the post, but the attitude is clear.
 
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Thanks for the reference ..

Why is it that organization is supposed to represent the meaning of Hinduism or the term Hindutva in your mind?

Dear TKS,

You can rightfully claim that an organization such as the HJS may not be the sole representative of "Hinduism the religion" or the hindu way of life or even Hindutva.

But it is a fact that organizations such as the HJS do fight for the cause of hindus, something which either the pseudo-secular govts fail to do or sometimes these organizations have to fight the govt itself.

Despite the jab taken by Prasadji, I have no qualms in stating that there are plenty of hindus sitting in foreign la-la lands who tend to be dismissive when it comes to the problems faced by hindus in India, that is except when they want to discuss casteism because then they will be blaming a section of hindus themselves, something that comes natural to them.

If you did not know already, I would like you to read about a certain bill drafted by the previous UPA govt named the "communal violence bill".

I think every hindu, at least those living in India, should know about the bill.

http://nac.nic.in/pdf/pctvb.pdf

The Bill was patently anti-hindu and was seeking to ipso facto blame the hindus for any conflict between hindus and non-hindus.

Read here why the bill was considered highly communal in nature. Isn't it ironical that the bill that seeks to fight communal violence is in itself highly communal.

Communal Violence Bill is a Travesty of Democracy - The New Indian Express

It was quite a draconian bill that thankfully did not see the light. It did not pass because it was seen as federal govt encroaching on the rights of the state thanks to the much reviled hindutva parties. There is no doubt that had UPA won again they would have tried to push this bill though with a few changes here and there but retaining the anti-hindu character.

This is a sample. People may remonstrate here about the extremism of hindutva etc but they won't fool anyone by taking an extremely one-sided view and by not talking about the communal character of anti-hindus.
 
கால பைரவன்;253854 said:
Dear TKS,

You can rightfully claim that an organization such as the HJS may not be the sole representative of "Hinduism the religion" or the hindu way of life or even Hindutva.

But it is a fact that organizations such as the HJS do fight for the cause of hindus, something which either the pseudo-secular govts fail to do or sometimes these organizations have to fight the govt itself.

Despite the jab taken by Prasadji, I have no qualms in stating that there are plenty of hindus sitting in foreign la-la lands who tend to be dismissive when it comes to the problems faced by hindus in India, that is except when they want to discuss casteism because then they will be blaming a section of hindus themselves, something that comes natural to them.

If you did not know already, I would like you to read about a certain bill drafted by the previous UPA govt named the "communal violence bill".

I think every hindu, at least those living in India, should know about the bill.

http://nac.nic.in/pdf/pctvb.pdf

The Bill was patently anti-hindu and was seeking to ipso facto blame the hindus for any conflict between hindus and non-hindus.

Read here why the bill was considered highly communal in nature. Isn't it ironical that the bill that seeks to fight communal violence is in itself highly communal.

Communal Violence Bill is a Travesty of Democracy - The New Indian Express

It was quite a draconian bill that thankfully did not see the light. It did not pass because it was seen as federal govt encroaching on the rights of the state thanks to the much reviled hindutva parties. There is no doubt that had UPA won again they would have tried to push this bill though with a few changes here and there but retaining the anti-hindu character.

This is a sample. People may remonstrate here about the extremism of hindutva etc but they won't fool anyone by taking an extremely one-sided view and by not talking about the communal character of anti-hindus.


Dear KB

Thanks for sharing very appropriate reference items.

While I mostly tend to browse threads mainly in the General Section, I usually make an effort to read your posts because they tend to be well thought out based on as much factual information as possible.

There has been a systematic campaign underway under the name of secularism to draw a section of Hindus into some kind of inevitable conflict perhaps involving communal violence. In the past government there was also control of the media to propagate misinformation and often they are funded by outside religious interests.

After all a decade ago the Pope had declared that in this millennium India is ripe for 'harvest' and conversion !

The sad part is that many people in India and of Indian origin fall for propaganda.

Regards
 
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