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I liked Mr. TBT's comment, but I wanted to add to it, as it sounded despondent.

We are all exceptional because we are the Atma that is Brahman. Our ego clouds our potential. It is almost impossible to dispel this ego.

I do not believe in an Active GOD, I believe in Brahman of the Advaita.

We are not HOPELESS, we should be HOPEFULL.

But Mahavakya says that:

at Tvam Asi - traditionally rendered as "That Thou Art" (that you are), (Chandogya Upanishad 6.8.7 of the Sama Veda, with tat in Ch.U.6.8.7 referring to sat, "the Existent"); correctly translated as "That's how [thus] you are," with tat in Ch.U.6.12.3 referring to "the very nature of all existence as permeated by [the finest essence]"
Aham Brahman Asmi (अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि) - "I am Brahman", or "I am Divine" (Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 1.4.10 of the Yajur Veda)
Prajnanam Brahma (प्रज्ञानम् ब्रह्म) - "Prajñāna is Brahman", or "Brahman is Prajñāna" (Aitareya Upanishad 3.3 of the Rig Veda)
Ayam Atma Brahma (अयम् आत्मा ब्रह्म) - "This Self (Atman) is Brahman" (Mandukya Upanishad 1.2 of the Atharva Veda)
Those statements are interpreted as supporting the insight that the individual self (jiva) which appears as a separate existence, is in essence (atman) part and the manifestation of the whole (Brahman).

So never give up. Keep striving to improve your outlook.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C4%81v%C4%81kyas[/URL]

Sorry, this thread is meandering like a river, I am not trying to hijack the thread.
I do not have any opinion on how the Universe was formed.
Currently, the best assumption is the big bang theory, it does not answer all the questions.

<blockquote data-quote="prasad1" data-source="post: 467650" data-attributes="member: 17510">I liked Mr. TBT&#039;s comment, but I wanted to add to it, as it sounded despondent.We are all exceptional because we are the Atma that is Brahman. Our ego clouds our potential. It is almost impossible to dispel this ego.I do not believe in an Active GOD, I believe in&nbsp; Brahman of the Advaita.We are not HOPELESS, we should be HOPEFULL.But Mahavakya says that:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">at Tvam Asi - traditionally rendered as &quot;That Thou Art&quot; (that you are), (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandogya_Upanishad" target="_blank">Chandogya Upanishad</a> 6.8.7 of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sama_Veda" target="_blank">Sama Veda</a>, with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattva" target="_blank">tat</a> in Ch.U.6.8.7 referring to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya" target="_blank">sat</a>, &quot;the Existent&quot;); correctly translated as &quot;That&#039;s how [thus] you are,&quot; with tat in Ch.U.6.12.3 referring to &quot;the very nature of all existence as permeated by [the finest essence]&quot;</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Aham Brahman Asmi (अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि) - &quot;I am Brahman&quot;, or &quot;I am Divine&quot; (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brihadaranyaka_Upanishad" target="_blank">Brihadaranyaka Upanishad</a> 1.4.10 of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yajur_Veda" target="_blank">Yajur Veda</a>)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prajnanam_Brahma" target="_blank">Prajnanam Brahma</a> (प्रज्ञानम् ब्रह्म) - &quot;Prajñāna is Brahman&quot;, or &quot;Brahman is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prajna_(Vedic)" target="_blank">Prajñāna</a>&quot; (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aitareya_Upanishad" target="_blank">Aitareya Upanishad</a> 3.3 of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rig_Veda" target="_blank">Rig Veda</a>)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayam_Atma_Brahma" target="_blank">Ayam Atma Brahma</a> (अयम् आत्मा ब्रह्म) - &quot;This Self (Atman) is Brahman&quot; (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandukya_Upanishad" target="_blank">Mandukya Upanishad</a> 1.2 of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atharva_Veda" target="_blank">Atharva Veda</a>)</li>
</ol>Those statements are interpreted as supporting the insight that the individual self (jiva) which appears as a separate existence, is in essence (atman) part and the manifestation of the whole (Brahman).So never give up. Keep striving to improve your outlook.[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C4%81v%C4%81kyas[/URL]Sorry, this thread is meandering like a river, I am not trying to hijack the thread. I do not have any opinion on how the Universe was formed. Currently, the best assumption is the big bang theory, it does not answer all the questions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="prasad1, post: 467650, member: 17510"] I liked Mr. TBT's comment, but I wanted to add to it, as it sounded despondent. We are all exceptional because we are the Atma that is Brahman. Our ego clouds our potential. It is almost impossible to dispel this ego. I do not believe in an Active GOD, I believe in Brahman of the Advaita. We are not HOPELESS, we should be HOPEFULL. But Mahavakya says that: [LIST=1] [*][I]at Tvam Asi [/I] - traditionally rendered as "That Thou Art" (that you are), ([URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandogya_Upanishad']Chandogya Upanishad[/URL] 6.8.7 of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sama_Veda']Sama Veda[/URL], with [I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattva']tat[/URL][/I] in Ch.U.6.8.7 referring to [I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya']sat[/URL][/I], "the Existent"); correctly translated as "That's how [thus] you are," with [I]tat[/I] in Ch.U.6.12.3 referring to "the very nature of all existence as permeated by [the finest essence]" [*][I]Aham Brahman Asmi[/I] (अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि)[I] - "I am Brahman", or "I am Divine" ([URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brihadaranyaka_Upanishad']Brihadaranyaka Upanishad[/URL] 1.4.10 of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yajur_Veda']Yajur Veda[/URL])[/I] [*][I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prajnanam_Brahma']Prajnanam Brahma[/URL] (प्रज्ञानम् ब्रह्म)[/I] - "Prajñāna is Brahman", or "Brahman is [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prajna_(Vedic)']Prajñāna[/URL]" ([URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aitareya_Upanishad']Aitareya Upanishad[/URL] 3.3 of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rig_Veda']Rig Veda[/URL]) [*][I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayam_Atma_Brahma']Ayam Atma Brahma[/URL] (अयम् आत्मा ब्रह्म)[/I] - "This Self (Atman) is Brahman" ([URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandukya_Upanishad']Mandukya Upanishad[/URL] 1.2 of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atharva_Veda']Atharva Veda[/URL]) [/LIST] Those statements are interpreted as supporting the insight that the individual self ([I]jiva[/I]) which appears as a separate existence, is in essence ([I]atman[/I]) part and the manifestation of the whole ([I]Brahman[/I]). So never give up. Keep striving to improve your outlook. [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C4%81v%C4%81kyas[/URL] Sorry, this thread is meandering like a river, I am not trying to hijack the thread. I do not have any opinion on how the Universe was formed. Currently, the best assumption is the big bang theory, it does not answer all the questions. [/QUOTE]

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