• This forum contains old posts that have been closed. New threads and replies may not be made here. Please navigate to the relevant forum to create a new thread or post a reply.
  • Welcome to Tamil Brahmins forums.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our Free Brahmin Community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

How Lord Ram is punishing the BJP in Gujarat

Status
Not open for further replies.

mkrishna100

Active member
How Lord Ram is punishing the BJP in Gujarat
http://www.rediff.com/news/column/how-lord-ram-is-punishing-the-bjp-in-gujarat/20150827.htm

The lesson the BJP has to learn from the violence in Gujarat is that once you practise the politics of hate against any community, it will surely get back to you some day,' says Syed Firdaus Ashraf.

In 1990, as a student of Class 12, I was traveling with a friend to Andheri, northwest Mumbai, to inquire about science classes so as to be able to choose a major and decide what to do in the future.

We were very worried about what jobs we would get if we were less qualified than others. After inquiring about the classes, we were walking back to the railway station when an incident occurred that changed my life forever.

As we arrived at the station we discovered thousands of Bharatiya Janata Party workers assembled there, all of them eagerly awaiting the party's then mascot L K Advani to arrive.

Advani was touring India in his rath, appealing to Hindus to join the movement to build a Ram temple at the site where the Babri Masjid stood in Ayodhya, where devout Hindus believe Lord Ram was born aeons ago.

My friend and I waited to hear Advani speak. I was 18 and had very little idea about politics.

Before Advani began his speech, some speakers unleashed venom against Muslims, blaming the community for not giving up its claim to the land where the Babri Masjid stood. One speaker termed all Muslims 'Babar ki aulad' (children of Babar, the first Mughal emperor in whose name, as I pointed out in an earlier column, that the Babri Masjid was built).

What hurt me most was not that they were abusing Muslims, but that they were doing so with a huge poster of Lord Ram in the background.

My connection to Lord Ram was through Ramanand Sagar's enormously popular television serial Ramayan and occasional visits to temples with Hindu friends. I always believed Lord Ram to be a loving person and actor Arun Govil superbly essayed the part in the television serial. I did not miss a single episode of Ramayan.

But here, in 1990, I was being shown Lord Ram as someone whom I could not associate with. And it was only because of the BJP and Advani's campaign in Lord Ram's name.

As I left Advani's rally after about an hour I took away an important lesson. Indian Muslims would have to live with the unfortunate tag 'Babar ki aulad.' Even if they wanted to forget it and move on, BJP leaders like Sakshi Mahraj and Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti would keep reminding them about it, even in 2015.

On Tuesday, August 25, when I saw the Patel community agitating for reservations in huge numbers, I could not believe they were taking on the mighty BJP in Gujarat.

Intrigued, I met a Patel I knew to find out more about the issue. With great confidence he declared that without the support of the Patels, the BJP is finished in Gujarat.

I asked why the Patels, who are known to be an affluent community, are keen on reservations. Reservations were important for the Patels, he said, because many, including him, had suffered because of the policy.


Every government in Gujarat, he added, had taken Patel votes for granted. He said he had to move to another city to join an engineering college because he missed the merit list in the college in his home town by a few marks.

"If there was reservation for Patels, I would have got admission in the college near my home. Other communities took advantage of reservations whereas we Patels were left behind," he pointed out.

It was a myth that all Patels are affluent, he insisted, because there are many poor Patels, several of them farmers. Some Patels do odd jobs.

Then he stunned me. The Patels, he said, are descendants of Lord Ram.

There are, he said, two types of Patels: Leuva Patels and Kadava Patels. While Leuva Patels are descendants of Luv, Kadava Patels are descendants of Kush -- Lord Ram's twin sons.

How could the BJP treat the children of Lord Ram so badly, he wanted to know.

My mind went back to that rally 25 years ago when the BJP misused Lord Ram's name for political gain.

Today, Lord Ram's descendants (the Patel community) are teaching the BJP a lesson it will not forget in Gujarat.

When I was asked to cover the 2012 Gujarat assembly election, I turned down my editors' request, saying the BJP and its then chief minister Narendra Modi would win and there was nothing new to report.

I had covered the 2002 Gujarat assembly election after the post-Godhra riots and the 2007 elections. In both elections, the BJP and Modi's strategy was to spread fear among the state's Hindus about the 'Miyans' -- Muslims -- and win.

In the 2002 election, held after the Akshardham temple terror attack, the election was fought between Musharraf Miyan (then Pakistan army chief and president Pervez Musharraf) and the BJP. Everywhere you went, you heard speeches full of 'Musharraf Miyan' or just 'Miyan'.

In 2007, there was the Sohrabuddin Sheikh encounter case. Neither jobs nor development nor any other economic issue featured in the BJP's election campaign -- just the fear of Miyans.

In 2012 I felt the Miyan issue would be highlighted yet again.

When Modi desisted from using the 'M' word at at an election rally I watched on television, I was startled for a bit, but Modi returned to type, with his 'Ahmed Miyan' taunts aimed at Congress leader Ahmed Patel.

The lesson the BJP needs to learn from the Patel community's agitation and the subsequent violence is that once you practise the politics of hate against any community -- dubbing them with epithets like 'Babar ki aulad' or taunting them with 'Miyan' -- it will surely get back to you some day.

I am sure Lord Ram will agree. After all, Lord Ram is all about love, not hate.
 
Fair enough if the writer is sincere and honest but its not as if all Non Hindus are non violent and do not play hate/religion politics.

It just seems that when a Hindu reacts its always wrong but when a Non Hindu reacts he is defending his religion.

Strange but true.

So the best is if we humans want to fight and kill ourselves do not drag God into it.

Animals too fight and kill each other without dragging God into their lives.

So why can't we just be like animals and lead a life without involving God? No one is asking us to stop fighting and killing..by all means continue if one wishes but just leave God out of it.

So for BJP it's a big slap on their faces for dragging in Lord Rama for personal agenda.

Shot thru the heart..and you're too blame..You give Raam a bad name!
 
All major riots post independence except 2002 happened during congress rule. There is a long trail from sonia congress ana aap for funding and organising this riot. All media have abandoned gujarat and living on celebrity murder issue. That alone will explain the nature of gujarat riot.
 
Great post from Renuka ji. Organized religion is for sure a human invention, used to justify any human actions, good or bad.
 
Are we (Hindus) allowed to voice our opinion in Pakistan...Are we allowed to multiply like pigs there & treple our numbers in 65 years and take on the main religion head on...Are we allowed to build temples in every public place there! Have we taken to bombs to voice our protest in Pakistan for all the public humiliation of our women, constant threat of conversion and inability to practice our religion in public?

If the answer is No. this author should have no standing in India! Hindus should declare such characters as infidels and boycott them! It is question of survival of the fittest! If we do not act now, we have to face the consequences of what our forefathers had faced in the Muslim countries! May be we are being pushed to the wall!
 
Last edited:
Lord Ram is punishing the BJP in Gujarat!

Lord ram is favouring BJP in Bangalooru !!
hi

what abt lord ram in bihar bjp?....is another delhi like situation....promises are easy ...implementation is tough...see the problem...

ONE RANK ONE PENSION....before election ..bjp criticised congress....now bjp is criticized by congress..
 
Where in this issue does "hindu reacts" come, in demolishing Babri Masjid?


I am not condoning violence but sometimes a Lion has to roar to exert his territory.

Tolerance is always only expected from a Hindu.
 
Last edited:
The writer seems to be Muslim talking about love, affection, secularism etc.

Do Muslims practice the above where they are majority?

Since India is a highly mixed society, it becomes advantages to leftists, pseudo secularists like the above writer. When will this change?
 
These types of quota agitations are not unique to Patels or Gujarat. The Jats wanted in as OBCs and indulged in many demonstrations, not all of them peaceful, in Rajastan/ Haryana during Congress rule. Outside groups want to get in and inside groups fiercely protect their interests.The Gujjars already have quota benefits as OBC but they want a separate category for themselves or want to be counted as STs. The Meenas who already enjoy benefits as STs oppose declaring Gujjars as STs. In Maharashtra, Marathas want to be declared as OBCs. Dhangars who are already OBCs want to be declared as STs. Bhills and Kond's who are STs oppose declaring Dhangars as STs - so on and so forth. Quota politics is central to dravidianists. Nitish Kumar and Lalu also rose through quotaism. It is Congress which encouraged sectarianism all these years. So why all this hullabulloo now about Gujarat. There is one and only reason - the Modi connection and the fact that BJP has been ruling there for decades. Editorials and opeds galore as if hindutva is responsible for this quota mess. The truth, as far as India is concerned, is, and this is unpalatable to a select few in this forum, secular lobby = Jihadi + Jesus lobby. Media does a hit job on anyone (i.e. hindutva) standing against this cartel and there are people in this forum ready to gobble it up.
 
I am not condoning violence but sometimes a Lion has to roar to exert his territory.

Tolerance is always only expected from a Hindu.

I feel people are not discussing the message but throwing stones at the messenger!

This Patel agitation cannot be granted without a Constitutional amendment and BJP is nowhere near that. Let us clearly understand this. So, why all this? May be to wipe out (BJP and) Modi in his home turf itself?
 
sir with ue regards to your wisdom, there are few points to be noted before supporting Patel's claim. 1. in last elections in Gujarat,after keshu bhai patel went seperate, the entire media reported that BJP will lose seats in Saurashtra, dominated by Patels. but what happened they gained seats in that region. also if we support reservation of one community today, this will give credibility to all other community to stake their claim. now Jats are asking for the same in Haryana, Marathas are asking for the same in Maharashtra. the list will go on and there will be no end. Manish Tiwary has written in a column in leading news paper, why forward caste should not ask for reservation. it is true. patels may be descendants of Ram. that does not make them eligible for reservation. i pary god, to let people think about teh country above petty politics and divide the country on caste.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Latest ads

Back
Top