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How to develop a liking for religion?

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eXe

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I've been an atheist and lived the lifestyle that goes along with it. I chased money as the sole purpose of my life and partied hard. I indulged in almost every vice imaginable. Last year I went to rehab for 6 months. When I was in there I read the Bhagavad Gita by Swami Chinmayananda. I found the writing to be very scientific and thought provoking. However, about 2 months after leaving the rehab I relapsed and went back to my bad old ways.

I'm suffering a horrible hangover now and regret for a lot of bad decisions made over the past several days, and I am convinced that it's only religion and adherence to traditional values that can help me fix my life.

I am of Tamil Brahmin heritage and I really liked reading the Gita so I am inclined to go with Hinduism.

However the few times that I did go to temples in the recent past, I felt like I was wasting my time and that it was an exercise in stupidity. Especially as I can't understand the prayers, etc.

Can anyone offer tips on how to develop a liking for religion and traditional values, and some prayers in English. Or any other religion more suitable for my situation?
 
How did you find the Gita scientific and thought provoking? Pls explain. IMHO instead of looking for science͵ if we look for *solace* our association with the Gita will be longer lasting
 
eXe Sir!

You have registered in our forum in seven years back and posted only 5 times.

If you had interacted well with members here, you would have been better off!

Please be active in forum to keep your vices away! :)

P.S: If you are not able to pray to any God you can try chanting OM to get some peace of mind.
 
I've been an atheist and lived the lifestyle that goes along with it. I chased money as the sole purpose of my life and partied hard. I indulged in almost every vice imaginable. Last year I went to rehab for 6 months. When I was in there I read the Bhagavad Gita by Swami Chinmayananda. I found the writing to be very scientific and thought provoking. However, about 2 months after leaving the rehab I relapsed and went back to my bad old ways.

I'm suffering a horrible hangover now and regret for a lot of bad decisions made over the past several days, and I am convinced that it's only religion and adherence to traditional values that can help me fix my life.

I am of Tamil Brahmin heritage and I really liked reading the Gita so I am inclined to go with Hinduism.

However the few times that I did go to temples in the recent past, I felt like I was wasting my time and that it was an exercise in stupidity. Especially as I can't understand the prayers, etc.

Can anyone offer tips on how to develop a liking for religion and traditional values, and some prayers in English. Or any other religion more suitable for my situation?

Dear Exe,

Why do you want to confuse your self and get in and out of rehab?

Religion is also an addiction..so as it is you need to come out of alcohol addiction..so why add to your problems?


Just be happy..make sure you take care of your health and try not to be addicted to anything be it JD or Religion.

Take life easy..members here will help you dont worry.

Tell me honestly:

1)Will religion help you quit alcohol?

2)Will religion pay for your rehab bills?

So you see a good therapist and strengthen your mind on your own..the human mind is the weakest and also the strongest..so shift to strongest mode.
 
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Hi Raji Ram
Come on͵ why do you find him confused? Afterall he is trying to correct what he sees as *mistakes* and hopes to find some benefit in religion. Why confused?
 
eXeji,
If that is a real person, joining in 2007, and all this post, is it real?
Your style of writing does not seem to be real. Is it about you or your imaginary friend? People on this site are giving advice thinking that you are real.

If you want to learn about religion is a tall order. What is your true quest? What is your philosophy? Who are you, give us some background? What do you know? If you read Chinmayanada's Gita, a lot of information should have been available. There should be local chapter of Chinmaya Mission near you, please visit them and speak with the local representative. You have to develop your own knowledge from others. This site may also be helpful, but sometimes with the conflicting views expressed a newbie might be confused. So I would strongly urge you to go talk with someone who is more in tune with what you like. Otherwise Hinduism is a waste ocean and you will get lost.
 
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How did you find the Gita scientific and thought provoking? Pls explain. IMHO instead of looking for science͵ if we look for *solace* our association with the Gita will be longer lasting

It was, perhaps, Chinmayananda's writing style that appealed to me. He explains the story (poem?) in a very rational manner. And my rehab was not a pleasant experience. It was more like a concentration camp with beatings and all kinds of torture (in India, what can we expect right). So it helped with my state of mind to read well written material, and there is indeed wisdom in many parts of it.

eXe Sir!

You have registered in our forum in seven years back and posted only 5 times.

If you had interacted well with members here, you would have been better off!

Please be active in forum to keep your vices away! :)

P.S: If you are not able to pray to any God you can try chanting OM to get some peace of mind.

Thank you and yes I'll try and post more.

Dear Exe,

Why do you want to confuse your self and get in and out of rehab?

Religion is also an addiction..so as it is you need to come out of alcohol addiction..so why add to your problems?


Just be happy..make sure you take care of your health and try not to be addicted to anything be it JD or Religion.

Take life easy..members here will help you dont worry.

Tell me honestly:

1)Will religion help you quit alcohol?

2)Will religion pay for your rehab bills?

So you see a good therapist and strengthen your mind on your own..the human mind is the weakest and also the strongest..so shift to strongest mode.

I wasn't thinking clearly when I made this thread. Sorry about that.

If a moderator can please go ahead and change the title to "How to develop a liking for traditional values", that would be great.

That is more of what I was going for. I (still) don't think highly of organized religions, including Hinduism, at least in the mindless way that it's practiced by most people. But the philosophy in the version of the Gita that I read did appeal to me.

Religion apart, I think that traditional (or even "common sense") values ubiquitous in historically advanced societies are well founded and may be the key to living a healthy, grounded life. Values such as sobriety, a moral compass, compassion for others, monogamy, living in the company of others ("family unit") etc. All of which I fall short on.

eXeji,
If that is a real person, joining in 2007, and all this post, is it real?
Your style of writing does not seem to be real. Is it about you are your imaginary friend? People on this site are giving advice thinking that you are real.

If you want to learn about religion is a tall order. What is your true quest? What is your philosophy? Who are you, give us some background? What do you know? If you read Chinmayanada's Gita, a lot of information should have been available. There should be local chapter of Chinmaya Mission near you, please visit them and speak with the local representative. You have to develop your own knowledge from others. This site may also be helpful, but sometimes with the conflicting views expressed a newbie might be confused. So I would strongly urge you to go talk with someone who is more in tune with what you like. Otherwise Hinduism is a waste ocean and you will get lost.

I can't decide your reality for you but what do you find so unreal about my "style of writing"? :laugh:

My "true quest" is to prolong my lifespan and have interesting experiences. The latter seems to be a very difficult task without mind altering substances, at this point.

My philosophy used to be hedonism. To obtain maximum pleasure while expending minimum effort and time. Now, I'm not so sure anymore.

A trip to a Chinmaya mission outpost sounds like a worthwhile idea. I wish the old man were still alive, I would like to have met him. His writing is extremely insightful and enjoyable.
 
There existed on engineering graduate who was bright enough to get into MIT, Boston and then started reading spiritual books.

After one year he suddenly left his studies and joined a mutt in India! His friends refer to him as 'the guy who went from mit to mutt!! :shocked:
 
Dear KRN Sir,

I don't think knowing our religion will help to stop the vices! There are a few so called spiritual Gurus

who are 'kudi magans' and 'Madhana Kamarajans'! So, what will be the plight of normal persons?

Good habits should start from the tender age. 'aindhil vaLaiyAdhadhu aimbadhil vaLaiyumA?'
 
OK if that¡®s your opinion.

But our religion gives a lot of significance to Gayatri mantram. What does it do? Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodayat.

Vices are the result of a mistaken way of thinking on what¡®s good and what¡®s bad for one. When wisdom dawns￾0È3 one¡®s bad tendencies are released automatically. (many people have ecperienced this in real life)
 
Vices are the result of a mistaken way of thinking on what¡®s good and what¡®s bad for one. When wisdom dawns￾0È3 one¡®s bad tendencies are released automatically. (many people have ecperienced this in real life)

That sounds a lot like AVRT.
 
Dear Exe,

Why do you want to confuse your self and get in and out of rehab?

Religion is also an addiction..so as it is you need to come out of alcohol addiction..so why add to your problems?


Just be happy..make sure you take care of your health and try not to be addicted to anything be it JD or Religion.

Take life easy..members here will help you dont worry.

Tell me honestly:

1)Will religion help you quit alcohol?

2)Will religion pay for your rehab bills?

So you see a good therapist and strengthen your mind on your own..the human mind is the weakest and also the strongest..so shift to strongest mode.

This is response I can resonate well with and reiterate to Sri eXe ..

I would further say that no religion can serve as a crutch. Here are some specific means to 'shift to strongest mode' advocated by Dr Renu

Learn to meditate properly, learn to do Yoga and learn to do Pranayama - these have nothing to do with any religion and practiced by many worldwide
Hang around with some happy people, not those that get happy by drinking or smoking

Think about what you want to accomplish in life and try to come up with a plan and begin to execute
 
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I've been an atheist and lived the lifestyle that goes along with it. I chased money as the sole purpose of my life and partied hard. I indulged in almost every vice imaginable. Last year I went to rehab for 6 months. When I was in there I read the Bhagavad Gita by Swami Chinmayananda. I found the writing to be very scientific and thought provoking. However, about 2 months after leaving the rehab I relapsed and went back to my bad old ways.

I'm suffering a horrible hangover now and regret for a lot of bad decisions made over the past several days, and I am convinced that it's only religion and adherence to traditional values that can help me fix my life.

I am of Tamil Brahmin heritage and I really liked reading the Gita so I am inclined to go with Hinduism.

However the few times that I did go to temples in the recent past, I felt like I was wasting my time and that it was an exercise in stupidity. Especially as I can't understand the prayers, etc.

Can anyone offer tips on how to develop a liking for religion and traditional values, and some prayers in English. Or any other religion more suitable for my situation?
you are making a mistake by turning to religion. going from frying pan into fire.I am also a tamil brahmin by birth

it is not wrong to be an atheist

excess of anything becomes a vice.

a little bit of self control and you can turn yourself around

if you believe in yourself you will be ok. no need to go to temples or the like, as penance. you are not wrong in believing it is an exercise in futility and waste of time.

if you have lived by certain norms and beliefs , pl do not destroy it. you can go further downhill

first step is self belief and next is a little moderation. good luck.
 
eXe Sir!

You have registered in our forum in seven years back and posted only 5 times.

If you had interacted well with members here, you would have been better off!

Please be active in forum to keep your vices away! :)

P.S: If you are not able to pray to any God you can try chanting OM to get some peace of mind.
Hey RRji
is transacting with members of this forum less of a vice.

becoming active here will make him an addict to this forum here like some of us.lol
 
Think about what you want to accomplish in life and try to come up with a plan and begin to execute

This is what makes me feel so sick. I do have a plan. I have had one for a while. I know exactly what to do about most things that I want to accomplish. But every time I make some progress I become complacent and the substance abuse kicks into overdrive. If it weren't for my addiction issues, I would have been doing a lot better in life. I wanted to retire at 30. Now I seriously doubt if I'll live to 30. I firist got pancreatitis when I was 20. Then fatty liver. Too many blackouts to mention. Did some crazy stuff like jumping out of a 2nd floor apartment's window drunk. Broke the tibia in my right knee. Lots of war stories.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that I'm not sitting around bored with an ample amount of time, that is not my problem. I have work, and even other hobbies. My situation is more like a carbonated beverage in a bottle, I will push myself hard till I make some progress and then I can't contain myself when I do. The bottle explodes.


first step is self belief and next is a little moderation. good luck.

I don't think that moderation is possible for me anymore. It's all or nothing. Thankfully I've found a program called "Rational Recovery" and am reading one of the books now. It sounds good **now** but I don't trust myself. My word is worth nothing when it comes to drinking and using drugs. I've lied to myself countless times already. Moderation is a slippery slope. It always ends badly. Maybe not on that day, but if I drink and/use today aiming for moderation and succeed, I become complacent. Then it's just a matter of time before it becomes heavy using again.

Hey RRji
is transacting with members of this forum less of a vice.

becoming active here will make him an addict to this forum here like some of us.lol

That seems to be an acceptable hobby :)
 
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