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Humans To Live forever By 2030 As Persons Consciousness could be uploaded to Computer

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Looks exciting...This really proves that consciousness can be stored and live perpetually infinite, boundless and timeless...There is no death to the Atman or the Brahman which is Eternal, unchanging and indistinguishable from the essence of the Universe

February 28, 2015

Mind Trip: Humans To Live Forever By 2030 As Person’s Consciousness Could Be Uploaded To Computer

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Want to live forever? According to some of the leading minds in the world, including Stephen Hawking, by 2030 we should have the capability to upload a person’s consciousness to a computer system. This would allow the human mind to live on in a virtually created world after the body has died, even interacting with other uploaded consciousnesses on the server.
The New Yorker recently reported on the surge in scientists interested in finding a way to preserve human consciousness after the body has died. In fact, it is noted that a growing number of researchers have stepped into this field of thought and are working diligently to bring immortality, at least of the mind, to the mainstream. Stephen Hawking, renown by many as one of the most powerful minds on earth, has said the idea is not completely science fiction. In fact, he says it is “theoretically possible” as computer capabilities increase exponentially.
“It’s theoretically possible to copy the brain onto a computer, and so provide a form of life after death.”
According to the Telegraph, Hawking notes that the human brain works in a similar fashion to a computer. The brain runs like a “program” in the mind which is exactly how a computer works. Therefore, it would be possible to copy all the pathways in the mind to a computer and allow for some sort of afterlife experience.
In addition to Hawking, futurist Ray Kurzweil, who has pinned a series of books discussing an even he calls “Singularity.” Kurzweil agrees with Hawking and claims that the capabilities to upload the human mind may be available as early as 2030. Kurzweil outlines his idea of exactly how the uploaded human consciousness may interact with other consciousnesses via a sort of internet server. Kurzweil’s website provides details on how the conversations and experiences may take place. For example, in the future all minds, including both the living and dead, may be connected to an internet server. If individuals wanted to meet virtually, they could simply request to be connected with another individual. They could then “go to” virtual spaces created by images of the mind such as a cafe or favorite place in nature. It would be similar to a chat room of sorts where the mind could control the setting, smells, sounds and sights. Kurzweil says this type of technology is not far-fetched and as computer capabilities expand, will become rapidly available.
“Our scanning machines today can clearly capture neural features as long as the scanner is very close to the source. Within 30 years, however, we will be able to send billions of nanobots-blood cell-size scanning machines-through every capillary of the brain to create a complete noninvasive scan of every neural feature. A shot full of nanobots will someday allow the most subtle details of our knowledge, skills and personalities to be copied into a file and stored in a computer.”
The 2045 Initiative, which deals directly with preserving human consciousness through technology, has set a goal of transferring the human brain to an artificial intelligence avatar by no later than 2035.
What do you think of the idea of living forever in a virtual world? Would you allow your brain and consciousness to be uploaded to a computer server if you had the option?


http://www.inquisitr.com/1883084/mi...-consciousness-could-be-uploaded-to-computer/
 
This news story is good for conversations in a party at best.
Stephen Hawking, brilliant he is , is fatally flawed when it comes to understanding certain basic truths that are revealed in Vedas (Upanishads) and therefore available to all human beings.

The model of consciousness is not understood by the west who are driven by the Descartes Philosophy "Cogito ergo sum[SUP][" [/SUP]
In other words it asserts - I think therefore (I know) I exist. The Wikipedia articles describes this as follows:

"This proposition became a fundamental element of Western philosophy, as it was perceived to form a foundation for all knowledge. While other knowledge could be a figment of imagination, deception or mistake, the very act of doubting one's own existence arguably serves as proof of the reality of one's own existence, or at least of one's thought.
Descartes' original phrase, je pense, donc je suis (French pronunciation: ​[ʒə pɑ̃s dɔ̃k ʒə sɥi]), appeared in his Discourse on the Method (1637), which was written in French rather than Latin to reach a wider audience in his country than scholars.[SUP][1][/SUP] He used the Latin cogito ergo sum in the later Principles of Philosophy (1644)."

All western models of science and philosophy are derived from the above flawed thinking.

Our Vedic teaching, which is subject to direct understanding, is actually the reverse: I exist unconditionally, therefore I think!

The western philosophical thought gives rise to ideas of a soul (which is often incorrectly translated as Atma). When a plane flies or a gadget works, it is a proof of stored human intelligence in action in the context of operation of natural laws. If a computer can be taught to behave like human being in terms of thinking capacity the western philosophy leads one to think that the machine is capable of becoming conscious and can get smarter to even capture other consciousness, whatever that means.

Since the starting step is wrong, subsequent analysis and conclusions of great scientists such as Hawking are wrong.
 

Since the starting step is wrong, subsequent analysis and conclusions of great scientists such as Hawking are wrong.

Are we saying that in case we are able to establish the eternity of Consciousness as per the above surmise by Hawking, then the Vedas are flawed?
 
So its like having a website where the living and the "dead" can log in and chat...so may be the next step is having a Immortality App on the smart phone.
 
“It’s theoretically possible to copy the brain onto a computer, and so provide a form of life after death.”
According to the Telegraph, Hawking notes that the human brain works in a similar fashion to a computer. The brain runs like a “program” in the mind which is exactly how a computer works. Therefore, it would be possible to copy all the pathways in the mind to a computer and allow for some sort of afterlife experience.

What a fundamental flaw, one would think !

But on second thoughts, I recollect a TED video, either from this forum or elsewhere, in which a neuro signal from a girl was translated to another guy, and his hand imitated the mechanical actions of that of the girl !

Similarly, if thoughts could be mapped into electrical or neuro signals and then stored appropriately, any person could relive the experiences, but that wouldnt equate to consciousness living in perpetuity...
 
Are we saying that in case we are able to establish the eternity of Consciousness as per the above surmise by Hawking, then the Vedas are flawed?

There are assertions in Vedas that are subject to belief only (e.g., do this Yagna for rain etc) and there are teachings that are subject to understanding (knowable as truth and without contradiction of anything else known).

When something is known to be truth, no other experiments can be done to assert otherwise. For example it is known that division by zero is not possible and imagine someone claiming that they will build a computer to precisely calculate the value of a number divided by zero which would be dismissed as absurd. Same is the case here.

In this instance, Vedas being flawed does not arise!
 
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What a fundamental flaw, one would think !

But on second thoughts, I recollect a TED video, either from this forum or elsewhere, in which a neuro signal from a girl was translated to another guy, and his hand imitated the mechanical actions of that of the girl !

Similarly, if thoughts could be mapped into electrical or neuro signals and then stored appropriately, any person could relive the experiences, but that wouldnt equate to consciousness living in perpetuity...

One thinks because one is conscious, not the otherway around :-)
 
The brain runs like a “program” in the mind which is exactly how a computer works. Therefore, it would be possible to copy all the pathways in the mind to a computer and allow for some sort of afterlife experience......................

O.. my GOD!!!!!.
Every one has to delete a lot of files from their mind. Otherwise..............
after death ............every thing will come lime light. Thinking of burying every thing in mind.....now even mind is not a safe place..................... O.. my GOD!!!!!.
 
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