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[Ganesh.R]

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first of all i am not here to create a fight..or offened any body... if this post does so.. plz.. please... plz forgive me.....

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Ganesh,

Best wishes for your forthcoming exams! The topics on brahmins are mostly 'arachcha mAvu'!!

I wonder if any member will read all the nine pages of the attachment in your post!

Smt. Raji Ram

 

[P.J.]

Dear Ganesh,

Best wishes for your forthcoming exams! The topics on brahmins are mostly 'arachcha mAvu'!!

I wonder if any member will read all the nine pages of the attachment in your post!

Smt. Raji Ram

Raji Madam

I just opened , saved it and when i saw it is too long, i deleted it .
You are right, if post is too long, or lengthy without any Para, i just ignore such posts;

presentation is very important to reach many.

 

[sangom]

Instead of talking about "why should any one hate brahmins?" etc., we brahmins should try to understand the real factors which enabled the anti-brahmin sentiment to reach the present stage. Sadly, there is no effort in this direction.

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Sangom Sir,

The 'holier than thou attitude' is does not prevail much among brahmins now. I was surprised to see that

a section of Christians were NOT given some kind of prasAdham (!) during the wedding ceremony of our

friend's daughter! Her groom was from a different section of Christians! There was an announcement

to say that ONLY a particular group is entitled to receive it. Howzzzzzzzzzat??

 

[Raji Ram]

........... I just opened , saved it and when i saw it is too long, i deleted it ...........

Dear P J Sir,

Very true! When I wrote 'TLDR' to one of my friend's post, he got upset!

P.S: I learnt 'TLDR' from my brother's son. In 'chat language' it means 'Too Long Didn't Read'!!

 

[Ganesh.R]

"tldr' " too long didn't read" :laugh::laugh: well actually i didn't write it it was written by an author david frawley ,

 

[sangom]

Dear Sangom Sir,

The 'holier than thou attitude' is does not prevail much among brahmins now. I was surprised to see that

a section of Christians were NOT given some kind of prasAdham (!) during the wedding ceremony of our

friend's daughter! Her groom was from a different section of Christians! There was an announcement

to say that ONLY a particular group is entitled to receive it. Howzzzzzzzzzat??

Smt. Raji Ram,

I did not refer to any "holier than thou" attitude among brahmins; even in the heydays of brahmins, I do not think there was this "holier than thou" feeling in the minds of brahmins as much as the fear of getting polluted, thereby committing a "sin" and falling from the queue for "mOksham" etc. Brahmins were more controlled by the very many Dharmasastra injunctions which sought to control almost every minute aspect of their lives.

(One person, slightly elder to me, once asked me as to how I viewed sex [with wife, of course] during daytime, during her menses periods, etc., since these are all strictly prohibited by our sastras. I told him that in my view, if both husband and wife have no objections/reservations in such matters and there was no disturbance/difficulties envisaged - due to children suddenly crying out etc. - all these are quite OK in married life and we need not be unduly afraid of the Dharmasastra/purana threats. This shows how much even well-educated people, occupying high positions in government, etc., are swayed by religion!)

My suggestion was regarding the success which EVR secured in generating a very powerful anti-brahmin wave in TN. Either EVR must have had some witch's power to have done this, or the general TN population of NBs would have been extremely gullible to swallow, hook, line and sinker, whatever anti-brahmin rhetoric EVR, Annadurai, MK and the DK/DMK people blurted out, or, last but not least, there must have been a subterranean anti-brahmin feeling in the minds of the NB people of TN which found a convenient (and violent) outlet through the Kazhagam activities. I suggested that there should be impartial studies/research on which of these factors helped EVR.

My own gut feeling is that Indians in general are more like zombies and one can find proof of this from the way the many swamis/gurus/godmen/godwomen etc., are able to establish themselves so effortlessly in people's minds and beliefs. Therefore, perhaps, EVR also probably found it rather easy to postulate a common evil (just as Ravana, Kamsa, Hiranyakasipu and so on) and project himself as the new "shining warrior on a white horse-back" (thanks to Rahul ji!) who has come to rid the TN of this very evil.

 

[renuka]

This article is written by David Frawley who is better known as Pandit Vamadeva Shastri of American Institute of Vedic Sciences.

I have no idea what he is really trying to convey??

 

[kunjuppu]

Dear Sangom Sir,

The 'holier than thou attitude' is does not prevail much among brahmins now. I was surprised to see that

a section of Christians were NOT given some kind of prasAdham (!) during the wedding ceremony of our

friend's daughter! Her groom was from a different section of Christians! There was an announcement

to say that ONLY a particular group is entitled to receive it. Howzzzzzzzzzat??

it could be the host and wine, which for catholics, are symbols of jesus' body and blood (though even symbolically eating the body and drinking the blood, i am still unable to fathom). this is usually done at the end of a mass, which is maha poojai for the catholics.

the protestants do not believe in such stuff. and do not have masses. just regular preachings.

this is afaik.

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Sangom Sir,

I don't like to discuss about intimate relationship between a couple in a public forum. But now I wish

to write this. Even to imagine an intimate relation during the period time brings instant nausea to me!

I remember one member mentioning that he asked his wife to use the swimming pool during 'that' time!

Wonder how men could ever think in these ways! :dizzy:

 

[Raji Ram]

it could be the host and wine, which for catholics, are symbols of jesus' body and blood (though even symbolically eating the body and drinking the blood, i am still unable to fathom). this is usually done at the end of a mass, which is maha poojai for the catholics.

the protestants do not believe in such stuff. and do not have masses. just regular preachings.

this is afaik.

Yes Sir! The some stuff like bread and some drink was distributed to one section of the wedding party!

That is all I noticed! Anyway I was not in the Q !!

 

[sangom]

Dear Sangom Sir,

I don't like to discuss about intimate relationship between a couple in a public forum. But now I wish

to write this. Even to imagine an intimate relation during the period time brings instant nausea to me!

I remember one member mentioning that he asked his wife to use the swimming pool during 'that' time!

Wonder how men could ever think in these ways! :dizzy:

Smt. Raji Ram,

The reference in question was given by me en passant just to show how our educated brahmins are also subject to certain desires-cum-fears. You have dwelt with only that and completely left out the main points.

 

[Raji Ram]

....... all these are quite OK in married life and we need not be unduly afraid of the Dharmasastra/purana threats. This shows how much even well-educated people, occupying high positions in government, etc., are swayed by religion!) .........

Dear Sangom Sir,

One paragraph out of the four you have written, with the quoted lines, are not important according to you?

P.S: I care very little for EVR's views and do not wish to comment! That is it!!

 

[Raji Ram]

The fear of the 'dharmasastra threats' only keeps the brahmins at least in this level.
Let us not try to spoil it and degrade the society further! :humble:

 

[sangom]

Dear Sangom Sir,

One paragraph out of the four you have written, with the quoted lines, are not important according to you?

P.S: I care very little for EVR's views and do not wish to comment! That is it!!

I thought that what is given within brackets and which is not directly connected with the thrust of the total contents, is only an incidental reference. Perhaps you know better!

The topic was not EVR's views but about how people got swayed by EVR.

 

[sangom]

The fear of the 'dharmasastra threats' only keeps the brahmins at least in this level.
Let us not try to spoil it and degrade the society further! :humble:

So, you seem to have a rather poor opinion about brahmins!!

 

[Raji Ram]

So, you seem to have a rather poor opinion about brahmins!!

Objection your honor!

Not only brahmins but the human beings who believe in 'dharmasastra'!

 

[Raji Ram]

I thought that what is given within brackets and which is not directly connected with the thrust of the total contents, is only an incidental reference. ......

Oh yes, Sir!

But my answer was only to that point which you think is not important!