Let there be Light

[kunjuppu]

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North Chennai thermal power unit attains full load - The Hindu

finally, it appears, that tamil nadu is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, literally.

personally, whatever maybe said about modi, i look upon him, as a tamil, as a competitor for development. it is a healthy competition, to have, between states, as to who can deliver the most to their peoples.

on many a social front, tamil nadu tops india. thanks to the dravidian revolution. such changes of social attitudes are only now taking place in most other states. west bengal, for all its marxist comrades, is still a brahmin's joy and seat of power. and of the upper castes.

modi, a few months ago, came to chennai. to wean away money, industrialists. we tambrams ofcourse know, that probably it is in gujarat, that we are most respected and appreciated as a community.

but, somewhere there, the heart is still with tamil nadu. i would not like tamil nadu to lose its place among the most advanced and industrailized states of india. there is real fear, that the auto sector has lost a lot of ground in recent years to gujarat.

hope with the restoration of power, our medium sized industries, the backbone of our economy and wealth, start humming again. in kovai. in tiruppur. in hosur.

if that happens, and we become power surplus, J would be a real contender for all the 41 Lok Sabha seats.

 

[sangom]

Kunjuppu,

Astrologically, Jupiter will move to Gemini rasi from Taurus on 1st. June 2013. From then on, Jupiter and saturn will be in most favourable places for JJ till 20th. June 2014. This one year period will be very good for JJ. May be she also gets a chance to stake her claim to the seat of PM.

 

[ShivKC]

North Chennai thermal power unit attains full load - The Hindu

J would be a real contender for all the 41 Lok Sabha seats.

though she messed up with kamal hassan, she has taken a bold step and a calculated risk in the cauvery issue and got a notification few weeks ago..

that was a remarkable achievement for her, and history would record it for ever.

if luck exists, she stands a fair chance to become a PM like how devegowda or IK gujral got through.

 

[Sathyaram]

Dear all!

The concept of power savings is as important as power generation.

Hope! The people of Tamilnadu would take note of this important and useful aspect at this time of shortage!

 

[suraju06]

Dear Kunjuppu,

You are a die-hard admirer of dravidian outfits.

You said "on many a social front, tamil nadu tops india. thanks to the dravidian revolution". and also
"such changes of social attitudes are only now taking place in most other states. [COLOR=#DA7911 !important]west bengal[/COLOR], for all its marxist comrades, is still a brahmin's joy and seat of power. and of the upper castes".

If you are talking about literacy, dravidian parties have nothing to do with that. It is a national drive in which some state did well some have become laggards. Not for want of effort. It has more of something to do with the attitude of the people. So that is a tongue-in-cheek statement. Marxists are not such casteists as the dravidian party honchos. Take the marxist ruled Kerala. They retain their top position in the matter of literacy. And the quality of life in Kerala is far better than the dravidian ruled TN. What do you have to say about that? May be your maths is very simple. One plus one is just two in it. Bosus, Mukherhees, Chatterjees are all brahmins and so Bengal is held in a casteist strangle hold by brahmins. Lo! in politics one plus one is not just two it is more than that and no one will tell you what is that "something more". Tamilnadu for all your idealism is not a down-trodden- friendly place as you believe. It is here that majority of the politicians are from the strong(in every way- financial and muscle power included)middle castes. It is the state where such horrible shames like Vachathi, Dharmapuri and many more visit periodically. There is no social or economic revolution whatsoever in TN leave alone dravidian one.

In our country Tamils are a group which is very resourceful. They have a fertile area which yields grains that make them self-sufficient. They have people with enterprising nature who do business well. Tamilnadu is not a small state in the union and so they have geographical size and political clout which can not be ignored. These are the basic facts and what you see is all built on this basic facts. When auto industry declines (though I do not see any signs of that happening in the near future)people here will find something else to make money. So no worries on that.

Cheers.

 

[sarang]

What a backhand pat (or slap) for tambrams?

EVR type dravidian adavadi has nothing to do with tamilnadu's progress or its current level of social attitudes. All the so called dravidians use his name to bash brahmins for personal benefit. They still harbour ill will and practice different shades of untouchability among themselves.

Bengal has fallen down in all areas because bengali brahmins have become communists and have renounced all brahminical values. They also pollute american universities; it appears most of the signatories of the wharton saga are bengalis (brahmins?).

Modi has never blamed brahmins and never played cheap antibrahmin politics as the dk/dmk dravidian hypocrites.

Time JJ too follows Modi and stops making minority appeasement remarks or distributes largesse. She must start working for all people of tamilnadu.

North Chennai thermal power unit attains full load - The Hindu

finally, it appears, that tamil nadu is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, literally.

personally, whatever maybe said about modi, i look upon him, as a tamil, as a competitor for development. it is a healthy competition, to have, between states, as to who can deliver the most to their peoples.

on many a social front, tamil nadu tops india. thanks to the dravidian revolution. such changes of social attitudes are only now taking place in most other states. west bengal, for all its marxist comrades, is still a brahmin's joy and seat of power. and of the upper castes.

modi, a few months ago, came to chennai. to wean away money, industrialists. we tambrams ofcourse know, that probably it is in gujarat, that we are most respected and appreciated as a community.

but, somewhere there, the heart is still with tamil nadu. i would not like tamil nadu to lose its place among the most advanced and industrailized states of india. there is real fear, that the auto sector has lost a lot of ground in recent years to gujarat.

hope with the restoration of power, our medium sized industries, the backbone of our economy and wealth, start humming again. in kovai. in tiruppur. in hosur.

if that happens, and we become power surplus, J would be a real contender for all the 41 Lok Sabha seats.

 

[kunjuppu]

Sarang, Raju,

amazing, how we look at the same topic(s) with so many, a different viewpoints.

my focus was on the proposed relief from power cuts in tamil nadu. and the probable shot in the arm, this would provide for JJ. what a better bragline than to claim to have resolved the power crisis, albeit a little late.

in a recent interview by the now tamil nationalist and ex naxalite thyagu - i read his observation, about the preponderance of brahmins in the cpi(M) of tamil nadu. often, he said, these were from the lower middle class, and were honest and hard working party functionaries. the only instance where they disagreed with the rest of the comrades, was when it came to reservations. the marxist brahmins too dreamt of their son daughter packed off with a one way ticket to the usa

Back to the prospect of no power cuts. It has been so long that it is tough to imagine it for the locals. For me personally, I hope to be in Chennai for two back to back marriages in august/sep timeframe. I was dreading the power cuts, and am grateful that I would not have to suffer through the rigours of a scratchy pestilence, which happens to me, in the absence of a continuous flow of breeze, warm or otherwise

 

[suraju06]

Dear Kunjuppu your post #6:

It is equally amazing how you look at things from your view point. About the Tamilnadu marxists and Thyagu's views about it,I would like your straight answer to this question:
Suppose in Toronto there is in existence an affirmative action (other name for reservation) in favour of native americans and a meeting is called for and you attend that. In the meeting it is proposed that the reservation will be extended besides the American indians also to the white Europeans from Wales, Scotland, Ireland and the France only. What will you do? Will you say " Oh yeah. wonderfull idea. We should do that." oor will you oppose it on the ground of fairplay? Marxists of TN did that and today you are interpreting them as if they opposed the reservation to backward classes only because it was to affect brahmins. Are you aware that the prominent marxists of Tamilnadu never bothered about being a brahin or a non brahmin? Do you know that they never had the poonool? Are you aware that they never did anything that is brahminical like karmanushtanam? Mr. P Ramamurthy a marxist from TN used to question every point in the Sankara Bhashyam because he had read it completely under his Guru in his younger age. Are you aware of these small details. You do not know and so you said what you said.

As for the powercutsthey will go. Even if it is there you need not worry for the hotels here provide AC comfort even in powercut situation as they have standby power generators.,

Cheers.

 

[kunjuppu]

Dear (new) suraju,

You delight me with your new facets.

First of all let me tell you, that I am a big admirer of PR. Even more than I admire periyar. I am also aware of the purity of the souls of the earlier communists especially the Marxists (CPI(M)). It was with a fascination that I read his daughter (kaveri I think) who had written a brief bio of her dad in an old edition of theekkadhir. True to their dad, both the daughters are progressives, in both thought and action. PR willed away the lands he inherited to the dalit tillers. In those days, far before, land ceiling and such. And lived with a simplicity, that it sounds anachronistically quaint these days.

Re reservations, I personally do not like it. But that does not mean it is not good for the country. I am not too fond of taxes either. And so many other things. But we have to look at the overall good of the society. Before our own self interests.

A.G.Gardiner, wrote in an essay, at the turn of the 20th century, which I read about 45 years ago, as part of my school ‘must’ reading. The essence of it, is that for the greater good of the society, each of us, has to do with less or curtail our entitlements or liberties. Otherwise only chaos will result.

No one here has ever willing to respond to what would happen, especially in a country like india, with its severest discrepancies due to ancient customs and practices, which are at loggerheads with current day values. Would we rather reform bloodless or in a blood bath? One needs to look at indian society and its changes, in the context of a millennium, and understand/appreciate the rapidity of the change.

It is a fact that many many disenfranchised groups in india, by their millions are beginning to hope for a better future for their children through education. The indian constitution society polity has gone about giving this a quick turnaround through the process called reservation. As in any change process, of this kind, there are winners and losers….

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[biswa]

Bosus, Mukherhees, Chatterjees are all brahmins and so Bengal is held in a casteist strangle hold by brahmins.

Completely untrue. Bengal is the least casteist state in the nation. Large fraction of marriages are IC marriages. Brahmins are not more dominant than any other caste. Economic differences between castes is dwindling. Thanks to the Marxist revolution, the upper castes are somewhat scared of the lower castes, quite unlike the situation in the south and the north.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Completely untrue. Bengal is the least casteist state in the nation. Large fraction of marriages are IC marriages.

http://epc2010.princeton.edu/papers/100157

According to this study, higher percentage of intercaste marriages take place in the western states and some north eastern states. From other regions, Punjab and Kerala record the highest percentage of IC marriages. In Gujarat, considered as the most brahminical state, about 15% of marriages are IC. In WB, close to 90% marriages are within the same caste. So WB is only an average state when it comes to IC marriages, but still better than states like TN. In TN, IC make up a paltry 3%, one of the lowest in the country.

The dravidian movement is only an anti-brahmin movement and not an anti-casteism movement.

 

[renuka]

Someone should come up with statistics on Inter Caste Pre Marital and Extra Marital relationships.

 

[sarang]

If the issue is power cut or lack of it, why do you have to insert 'brahmin', 'social front', 'dravidian resolution' 'bengali comrades', 'brahmin's joy' and such issues close to your heart.

It would have been better if you have given information on why there is a power shortage, who is responsible. what policies followed by the previous and present governments have led to this.

Even though gujarat and other states with surplus power are willing to sell, the much touted national grid does not touch tamilnadu. How is that for dravidian statesmanship?

I believe, there was a thread in the past, on live webcast of opulent marriages; sponsoring such an event in aug/sep may help to brave the power cut. Anyway most of the kalyanamandapams and hotels have full generator back up for air conditioners as well. Powercut is not a problem for them, who attend weddings.

Sarang, Raju,

amazing, how we look at the same topic(s) with so many, a different viewpoints.

my focus was on the proposed relief from power cuts in tamil nadu. and the probable shot in the arm, this would provide for JJ. what a better bragline than to claim to have resolved the power crisis, albeit a little late.

in a recent interview by the now tamil nationalist and ex naxalite thyagu - i read his observation, about the preponderance of brahmins in the cpi(M) of tamil nadu. often, he said, these were from the lower middle class, and were honest and hard working party functionaries. the only instance where they disagreed with the rest of the comrades, was when it came to reservations. the marxist brahmins too dreamt of their son daughter packed off with a one way ticket to the usa

Back to the prospect of no power cuts. It has been so long that it is tough to imagine it for the locals. For me personally, I hope to be in Chennai for two back to back marriages in august/sep timeframe. I was dreading the power cuts, and am grateful that I would not have to suffer through the rigours of a scratchy pestilence, which happens to me, in the absence of a continuous flow of breeze, warm or otherwise

 

[sarang]

With power cut or without!

Someone should come up with statistics on Inter Caste Pre Marital and Extra Marital relationships.

 

[suraju06]

The dravidian movement is only an anti-brahmin movement and not an anti-casteism movement.

The Dravidian movement in TN was just a jokers' movement. Many jokers came , did a bit, entertained the gullible voters, got their vote, came to power and continued to play the role of a joker.

Cheers.

 

[zebra16]

If the issue is power cut or lack of it, why do you have to insert 'brahmin', 'social front', 'dravidian resolution' 'bengali comrades', 'brahmin's joy' and such issues close to your heart.

An attempt to remain relevant in the forum. As you might have noticed, many of the self claimed and coterie promoted *geniuses* are languishing because of lack of readership and they express their frustration in many ways. May be this is an attempt to *re-invent* and continue to be a star performing rebel without a cause.

 

[tbs]

The Dravidian movement in TN was just a jokers' movement. Many jokers came , did a bit, entertained the gullible voters, got their vote, came to power and continued to play the role of a joker.

Cheers.

hi sir,
yes.. they got power....people got power cut....lol