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Recently I had some inputs about the surrender concepy from a Sufi perspective.

The Sufi told this..

"True surrender requires both dimensions, inwardly and outwardly. It is impossible to truly fully surrender in humility without an external discipline, one in which we unequivocally recognize our Lord and Creator, and learn to draw nearer unto He with love as He Almighty has prescribed.

Everything else is still ego"

From what I gathered from the Sufi about surrender is most of us humans have not much idea about true surrender contrary to what many of us believe.

He said as long as the ego(nafs) exists and identifies with form/ external identity etc..none of us have surrendered.

I guess many of us just claim surrender/ bhakti but as long as the ego exists none of us know any bhakti.

<blockquote data-quote="renuka" data-source="post: 407394" data-attributes="member: 7604">Recently I had some inputs about the surrender concepy from a Sufi perspective.The Sufi told this..&quot;True surrender requires both dimensions, inwardly and outwardly. It is impossible to truly fully surrender in humility without an external discipline, one in which we unequivocally recognize our Lord and Creator, and learn to draw nearer unto He with love as He Almighty has prescribed.Everything else is still ego&quot;From what I gathered from the Sufi about surrender is most of us humans have not much idea about true surrender contrary to what many of us believe.He said as long as the ego(nafs) exists and identifies with form/ external identity etc..none of us have surrendered.I guess many of us just claim surrender/ bhakti but as long as the ego exists none of us know any bhakti.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="renuka, post: 407394, member: 7604"] Recently I had some inputs about the surrender concepy from a Sufi perspective. The Sufi told this.. "True surrender requires both dimensions, inwardly and outwardly. It is impossible to truly fully surrender in humility without an external discipline, one in which we unequivocally recognize our Lord and Creator, and learn to draw nearer unto He with love as He Almighty has prescribed. Everything else is still ego" From what I gathered from the Sufi about surrender is most of us humans have not much idea about true surrender contrary to what many of us believe. He said as long as the ego(nafs) exists and identifies with form/ external identity etc..none of us have surrendered. I guess many of us just claim surrender/ bhakti but as long as the ego exists none of us know any bhakti. [/QUOTE]

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