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Many questions asked about hindu puranas and itihasa - vignesh

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Why Bhisma didn't save draupadi during manapanga and after that when drupadi asked giving irrelevent answer?..these incidents really happened or not nobody knows...some of the stories are in one puranas and some of the incidents are interpreted in a different way in another puranas.Therefore in my capacity to answer properly.But the answer i thought best to explain this is this way only{This is the context in which i have written this}

Most difficult questions which in my capacity found unanswerable are asked. One thing i can say is whatever happens in this prakiriti is maya activitiy (or delusions or dreams according to vedantha).when a jiva seperates from parama atma , he gets entangled in this worldly desires and woman is the first root cause desire of man and vice versa..that's why so many problems arised..it only leads to tri guna sambantham. Therefore only our hinduism advocated complete celibacy during study days for getting wisdom instead of mere intellectual ability and moral courage to face all the world hazzles.Most of us including me have forgotten the way to live. we should slowly slowly reduce our desire and lead a sanyasa life atleast after our wife's death and our children seperating from us. This also we are not doing. Like the way we follow empty rituals. here is one ramakrishna story.
One sannyasi used to upanyasa.before that since a cat was giving trouble , he tied the cat and started his upanyasa. after time sanyasi also died and the cat also died. since sanyasi didn't tell about the reason, his deciples thought that cat is important. therefore for tying cat, cat they are not able to find out, never did upanyasa thinking it is the most important.Like that we lost the essence and we face the consequence in hinduism.

Here just like our favourite cine stars if we want to write something favourable, they will write only giving importance to the incidents which are good only or interpret them as good to boost their image. if i like ravana, draupadi or sita , i will write ramayana as ravanayana (just with the original), draupadi as (pandava nayaki) or with sita as Sitayanam

We lost in the quagmire of rituals and like the way we forgotten parama atma seperation and our eternal relationship, we just follow a blind path without knowing about the significance.This is the crux of all veda, purana, itihasa writing.
 
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First of all since earth, prakiriti or any maya activitiy arose desire in one's own mind, woman or worldly desire is considered as maya. To reach brahman, even ramakrishna broke kali worship and utlimately realized brahman. since our stories are written by so many people (may be the real incident just like communication gap passing from generation to generation) got distorted our veda, purana,itihasa also got distorted. In order to justify, they told that this is written by vyasa, sayana and other rishis so that other people may not question the authenticity. that's why we are not able to justify purana and itihasa stories.This is my general perception and this is not denigrade hinduism and denigrade my seniors who wrote this. But a way of understanding hinduism in a better perception.
 
Mr. Vignesh,
Do you read your post? Do you understand what you are writing? It seems to be in English, but I can not understand it. Are you writing it in Tamil and using google or other software to translate it?
 
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Mr. Vignesh,
Do you read your post? Do you understand what you are writing? It seems to be in English, but I can not understand it. Are you writing it in Tamil and using google or other software to translate it?

I tend to resonate with your comment..
Mostly I skip such posts since it tends to come across as some meaningless babble ..
 
I tend to resonate with your comment..
Mostly I skip such posts since it tends to come across as some meaningless babble ..
Yes sir, I try to ignore these post. Mr. Vignesh seems to be a genuine member trying very hard to convey something, and I wanted to find out what he was writing?
I shall try to heed your advice, Thanks
 
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Many questions asked about Hindu puranas, itihasas about the authenticity and whether it happend or why it happend like that


That is actually not my fault. Why because it requires deeper understanding about prakriti and purusha. Mahabharatha, veda even though now written were not originally written. Previously it was passed on from generation to generation with only our ancestors words to repeat or sometimes in order for the stories to look authentic , they just tell their own interpretations based on their perception heard through generation (that is the distorted version of what buddha, veda vyasa told). why told about prakiriti is it is not a real thing. The truth is distorted generation after generation due to their own perception.

Two ways it gets distorted :


(1) Due to nature's tendency
(2) Due to non-acceptance when a new person interprets a thing


Why Bhisma remained silent or why Bhisma told like this to draupadi ? Why Ajamila's wife was blamed for Ajamila's sin?


If you are not able to not understand , kindly don't pass comments as blabbering,etc., since everyone's knowledge is limited.If you are not able to understand that does not mean that the people are blabbering...Kindly go and read Aurobindo's "Divine Light"...probably you may know how difficult to understand his writings.


Kindly include my explanation.If they don't understand that is not my fault


Yours Sincerely,


R.Subbaraman
 
Even though many people written commentaries, only some people commentaries like Adi shankara, Ramanuchajarya and Madhvacharya are accepted. Like that when Madhava philosophy was expouned, it needed after Madhva only ragavendra's commentary. This is due to the sharp intellect of the people. Even Bhavagad Gita tells about "Delusion of mind through Jiva prakiriti sambanda" saying that when jiva enters prakiriti, it gets deluded because of jiva's combining with prakiriti leads to all sorts of desires. Due to their own desires or delusion of mind, everybody interpreted after later generations interpreted the scriptures in their own way and we lost the original. That leads to so many confusions in the minds of people because lot of people having given their own interpretation about the knowledge of veda, purana , itihasa and without proper original language knowledge or making their own interpretatons. In order to attain brahama gyana even ramarkishna paramahamsa has to transcend the prakiriti nature (i.e., KALI worship).that's what i told.

About the story told by ramakrishna without knowing about the actual truth , the disciples followed the non-essence.that's what the cat story is telling.

What is the confusion in this i don't understand?...i know english well and i know what i'm writing..i'm sane only...no need for unwarranted comments if you are not able to understand
 
These explanation i wanted to give as general because Mrs. Renuka or Mrs. raji ram or people like Mr. prasad or Mr. Sravana or Mr. Brahmachari think that i'm blabbering something. But the truth is may be my writing are not organized in a proper way or seems to be out of context since i'm not quoting with quote for what i'm saying. That may be my fault..why i have written this because Mrs. Renuka asked about so many controversial things. For that i didn't have any straight away answer because i don't know myself that all these stories are authentic or distorted version of the earlier version. No one can prove these.Even Jesus life history is not in Roman History. Even some history of some person is there , it is written according to one's own convenience.
 
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Not to worry Vignesh Sir! I am used to annAyism in our forum and shall not comment on any of your posts! :tape:
 
These explanation i wanted to give as general because Mrs. Renuka or Mrs. raji ram or people like Mr. prasad or Mr. Sravana or Mr. Brahmachari think that i'm blabbering something. But the truth is may be my writing are not organized in a proper way or seems to be out of context since i'm not quoting with quote for what i'm saying. That may be my fault..why i have written this because Mrs. Renuka asked about so many controversial things. For that i didn't have any straight away answer because i don't know myself that all these stories are authentic or distorted version of the earlier version. No one can prove these.Even Jesus life history is not in Roman History. Even some history of some person is there , it is written according to one's own convenience.


Vignesh ji,

What happened yaar? Now you are saying that I feel you are blabbering etc...that too my name is heading the list..I am like a forum criminal!LOL

Didnt I write you such a nice reply to you yesterday in Gene Mapping thread saying I wont fight with you and also dedicated Lungi Dance song to you cos you said you wear Lungi at home?
Today also I gave you exercise tips in a thread..so I have been good so far yaar. Dont write members name ok..have some pity on RR ji..she is a sweet lady.

Sravna has never commented that you are blabbering and neither did Prasad Ji or Brahmachari Ji as far as I know.

Anyway have fun.
 
If something is not understood that does not mean some one is telling is all foolish. Why should i go to google and edit or translate from tamil. I have my thought process.what is wrong in expressing what i feel. This is the way based on gita only. If someone write "GITA SARAM" no body questions or say "ANNAISM"..If you don't have the capacity to understand something, if your study is limited, kindly accept the truth.If I don't know advanced mathematics or science, i can't say "what is this bull shit or what are they blabbering"..here the plain truth is if something if it going higher on our head means we are not accustomed to that type of study. Just accept that.
 
Most of the debates are not based on essence of veda,upanishad but a simple gosspip of heard stories from TV or not from the original text but some version which we feel convenient to read.
If something is told , kindly have the tendency to study and say "what is not clear?" rather than just doing some passing comments.
 
If something is not understood that does not mean some one is telling is all foolish. Why should i go to google and edit or translate from tamil. I have my thought process.what is wrong in expressing what i feel. This is the way based on gita only. If someone write "GITA SARAM" no body questions or say "ANNAISM"..If you don't have the capacity to understand something, if your study is limited, kindly accept the truth.If I don't know advanced mathematics or science, i can't say "what is this bull shit or what are they blabbering"..here the plain truth is if something if it going higher on our head means we are not accustomed to that type of study. Just accept that.

Mr. Vignesh,
I do not know who your posting was directed at.
Even if Einstein teaches quantum physics in Dutch to a 5 year old in TN, and if the child does not understand what was taught, who's fault is it?
If someone tries to understand your writing and does not understand it, it can be due to listener' inability to understand or the speakers inability to understand the needs of his audience.
So instead of pointing fingers at the audience look at the speaker (yourself), and try to write better to convey the gist of what you are messaging.
I am going to follow TKSji's advice and ignore it.
 
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