The PI group usually staid, got excited when someone put this topic on. within 24 hours we had 99 responses. i have removed the names, but the gist of conversation is something folks here can relate.
btw TI stands for tamil iyers
here is the whole conversation pasted without IDs. easy to follow ..
A serious issue - Brahmin boys not getting girls from the same community.
Ooru , Innam konja naal pona nalla OC/FC Hindu pongalae kadakaradhu kastam ayyudum... Surely if Congress comes to power again ! Only Parachees, Hybrids or Kaka/Nasrani kuttigal thaan kadaipa .
So you are expecting all minority benefits in future
OC/OBC come under minority and govt. supports them, that's what I heard
Brahmin boys not getting girls... for what..?
Kalyanathukku
Kalyanam
Oh.. ok.
PI la comment pannarathai govanama irukkanam.. illai nna thappa eduthuppa...
Ummkitte solution edachi erukka
Thedanam thedanam... thedikitte irukkanam...
Taatha aayiduvai thedi thedi
ppo neenga yaar kalyanathukkuu ponnu paaka porel?
Ellam namma close friendukkudhan
Our community girls manasu vekkanam... Brahmin boys than kalyanam pannippen chollanam... Illai nna no solution..
Appo sari
Kalikalam
Thatha akara varaaukkum boys wait panna ready ah irukka.. ana girls....???
Girls - smart - no waitinggu
So that I said.... Our girls than manasu vekkanam nnu....
vadama, dosama, idlyma.... edho onuu.. ponnu kodungaiyaa... $ rate eri pochu... vayasu hussain bolt madri fast podhu.... pasanga naanga pavam
Now need to conduct a survey to check - the number of eligible bachelors in PI and see how the group can help to find a suitable match - task is biggu
neer vaazhga.. indru dhan PI la oru best suggestion vandhiruku... un pugazh onnguga
need an advice from the seniors, especially lawers if any. The matter is, I am a paid member of a matrimial group for a long time, and I can view the phone number's of more than 600 profiles now.
So what do you want to do now ?
if I prepare a database with contact phone numbers of profiles, it may help someone in this group searching brides. The question is, whether it is legal to publish tha data base? Surely, I won't mention the profile ID. Expecting your opinions
hehe..... 600 profile parthitinga... sandosama thaachundu thoongungo... adhellam velaiku aagadhu naa........
matrimony admin ... semma adi kodupaar ungaluku... franshise open panringala nu kettu
All 600 got married and have kids by now
Aren't there dedicated matrimony sites for that? Why convert PI forum to a dallaL forum?
Send them personally for interested ones Mahadeva Iyer. I think don't need to publish in PI.
Avalavu seekrama?
Why not, if some one get to tie a knot
There should be a dedicated site for PI, you visit any agraharam in PGT, you will get to see min 15-20 un married boys with good education and with no bad habittu
This you came to know only, otherwise - think out of the box payya
PI members.. MOI vepingala sollunga.... PI group la oru marriage swayamvar nadatha naan rdy .... who will join hands me
Ok, please consider, I withdrawn the question. Publishing it won't be a good idea.
yea... appa.. atlast purinjichaaa..... i give my personal numbr.. nekku mattum anupungo naa
Food post mattum podungo
It was a question with good intention . Who knows it will help anyone in our group..
Swayamvarathukku .. thaan, event Manager.
designation koduthu orangatadheengo... I m also one participant yaaa..... 1st applicant...
recently I gave the contact number of a profile to one of my friend, and that marriage got finalized. That was my motivation.
ponnu kodutha podhum.... full meals enna.... intercontinental, italian... 100 varieties of menu poda pasanga rdy..... karan thaapar... arnab... indha matter yen discuss panna matranga..
Hope next lucky person will be Or it could be ooru naatamai's close friend.
n NP, U are abso RIGHT ! The basic probsd are starting fm that side...another prob is that irrespective of wat a boy does/studies/wher /wat position- at least 80%- of them tend 2 bcom Mamas boys which is not liked by girls & cramp their style/status(?) /wl not be able to wriggle out & boys get rejected outright....
sari sari.. masa masa nu irukama.... ellarum porupa ava ava aaathula, pakkathula irukara pon kolandhainga pics, details vangikungo.... sundal saapida pogum podhu indha navratri la.. naan kodukara task idhu dhaan for all PI member maami's... PI eligible bachelors.. warm urslf up for a grand swayamvar..
Onga athula irukkarava ellam enna pannara ... ava kittai modhal la sollungo...
Ghoomna phirna, Live-in engagement karlena, ladke ko mottai karna/marna sab teek hai magar Saat phere lena nahi chaahte.... Many of our own PIs are going to chunchufy now.... Buts that the pure reality.... Pacchanijam !
Hindi thoda thoda hi malum sir.
uncle: 1 girl : 100 boys competition.. idhula 1000 sv sekar manal kayiru conditions vera from girls side.... ivlo hvy competition school studies, sports la kooda face pannadhu ila .. ya @ home they do c.... but DOS machine.. slow processing speed... time is precious... to speed up d process.. on behalf of bachelors of PI ... voice
Going back to pancali era
asku busku.. nooooooo mr. nattamai...
Ok ji. ooru chittal, orae roof kizha ounichu irrukaradhu -ippodhan naraya sootram vandurikae marindha-kadayala... namma padsangalum jollu kottindu naaka neetidu, poozhi paanam mara vizhindhudura-pullaiai Mottai adikaradhu, Pakshe avan kuda Saptapadhi Varam eduthu kalyanam mathram modiyadhu....
sony to surya
Amba, Swayamamvarthuku, hall booking panniyacha ?
Your hindi was little bit better sir
How many matrimonial you need. Will you accept TI. I will give you minimum 50 per week Ooru Nattamai
good 1 .. uncle
Amam.. antha sentence kku ethavathu hindi dictionary pathu meaning therinjukalam... Ana intha sentence kku inime than dictionary release pannanam...
Appidi podu , n ! Lets start cross border PI-TI alliances than out of caste ! At least Known Devils are better than THE Unknown !
Namma mattum nenacha porathu sir, antha girls kooda manasu vekkanam...
.. apaadiyeee cheerapunji madri kottttoo kottunu mazhai penjidumey
Why doubt ...? ava manasu vechiruntha neenga intha mathiri pulambindu irukka mattele illaya..
Plenty is available. The possible reason could be 1. parents are expecting higher income from boys family 2. Girls prefer to marry from outside 3.Boys are less educated than girls 4. Many parents are dependent of daughters income 5. Age of boys are lit...See More
.. enna ipdi posukunu.. asinga paduthitingaa.. i no polambings... my voice for all eligible shy bachelors of PI... enna dnt target alone ya
sir.... list goes onnnnnnnnnnn......... extra time i give u.. additional sheet kooda kodukaren.. niraya sollunga... guys we r rdy to listen.. but 1st ponnu koduthitu.. pesa aarambinga.....
Thats exactly what I meant ji . Boys are adjusting and compromising BUT the present Gen Girls.... Enna karranumao ? Food,Friends, Atmosphere Or is it from family due to their earning levels ?
ada CBSE la padichu. double, triple degree vaangi.. 6 digit verum tax mattumey pay panra pasanga naanga..... appdiyum application reject aagudheyyyy...... YYYYYYYYYYYYYY ???? mukkiyamana form adhu ila idhul illa.. nu y nondi saaaku
, There are other reasons also posted by ...
jus like govt office... edachum oru mukkiyamana form illa nu reject panra madri... some nuisance of the nonsense reason solli reject panrango...i pity all bachelors manasa thalara vidaatheenga.... boys... Wheel revolves.. we will ve our times
TI are having this problem for about 10 years now. it is estimated about 50,000 30+ TI boys without brides. They dont mind PI girls and would grab them when available.
For those who want to get married, they can try to loosen the criteria - starting from 'no horoscope', TI, other southie states Brahmins, vegetarian other castes. Situation for boys tough in almost all southern states, including NB in Tamil Nadu.
I agree with sir...Also my suggestion...disregard the status of girls family. Oru nalla Iyer girl from poor family aa irunthalum othukungo...
Dear , there is no guarantee that ' Oru nalla Iyer girl from poor family' will accept the bachelor. it is very important not to be patronizing or 'as if you are performing a charity'. i think there has to be a radical change in attitude in our community re populating for the next generation.
the namboodris and some other communities in the souh, facing the same problem, look for spouses in the orphanages. these orphan girls come with an advantage - they are happy for a good loving household, and willing to learn/blend with brahmin customs/...See More
there r no solutions except to marry girls outside Brahmin community.how many parents,elders accept that?not many! but I am seriously looking at that option & I dont see wats wrong.looking @ da pitiful situation,darts da only way.
I suppose this is because of late brahmin girls have been marrying outside our community...hence this problem. This is my observation.. i dont intend to offend anybody...Before you people jump to conclusions.. i would like to clear your doubt.. my husband belong to iyer community only!!!
Appadiyé ponnu kedachchalum,pitthe naalakké ódi póyidara!. Yaar thappu'?really this is a serious issue and to solve this problem I don't blame community. Parents are the best guide and advisor for their children. Most of Brahmin are well educated and have healthy cultural heredity. Think and advice pls.
Avanga problem avangalukkudhan puriyum
Romba padichalum problemoo
Gud mng all ., U hv touched a vry vry tru&rgt point... I know of a a few such cases whr girls have been taken frm rehab/Orphanages ! The fact is the girls are far far better as Partners/DIL-SIL/wife /Mothers.! No nakras adjusting and also keeping the hubby family happy ! Other "throughbred" jantus full of conditions & demands-wth thr family&siblings as pakavadyam! If earning a PM a portion HAS to go their family ? I will add some more read on... Shobha B ,This is becos of outside 'comm. ruchi"
by marrying girls outside Hindus can also bring more integration.if its okay for gals to run away & marry, guyz shud take a bold step and decide wisely wat suits them
High Demand Low Supply.
,wat U sat that the Parents shud advice the girls-vice-versa to boys too-is OK...BUT wat about the parents who feel & bring up/rear daughters as A Permanent Kalpatharu plant & expect that they shud keep getting the benifits ! They pamper & girls in turn get emboldened & Egoistic Ahankaris..They expect the same treatment as fm parents&wen not turn around !!And turn the life and house of inlaws into a yudh shetra ! They Do not&cant be a woman including a mother ! But grt exceptions are there !!
So they have decided(Boys), better not to MARRY.
its serious now guyz may prefer to act or keep on whining.
Maram valarnnathinu sesham vellamozhichittu kaaryamilla. Mulachchu varumbol valavum vellavum kodukkanam. Dhivasavum paripaalikkanam. (Ithu englishil ezhuthaanariyilla). Ellam krishiyaanu. Kaakkayum kiliyum nokkikondéyirikkum koththi kondupókaan. Achchanum ammYum nalla kaavalkaarum athupóle krishkkarum aavanam.
In the offshore oil industry safety training sessions, the instructor will mention all the safety precautions and procedures. But the final word from him will be "If you are sure that, the safety procedure won't save you in a particular situation, then take a decision by your own." Now what I believe, the situation is like that, other's can't do anything in Iyer boys matrimonial cases ( no matter, how sincere they are), We are responsible for our future. Make own attempts and decisions.
1.Vittukkudukkum vaazhkayil otti vazhalaam.
2.Prepared for the worst and Hope for the Best.
ji,You are right. All handbooks,Manuals and trainings /Preparations are only upto time.... In actual conditions,field situations, combat conditions WE have to take a decision/s as per the 'situation', based on the trainings and experience ! YOU are Your Own Master and Judge...Your life and future is in your hands ! We cannot fall back on the 'BOOK' ! Thats wht they say "SWEAT IN THE PEACETIME..... BLEED LESS IN WARTIME" !
In Andhra's East and west Godavari region the Brahmins in the Aghraharms wud go to PI /TI areas and get girls from there... This was in vogue till about mid 60s ! Now even there there is grt disparity in M/F ratios and the existing girls-all educated,earning and independent..they always were -are hard to get!They are hunting out Sambandam products of other high castes &AB women&just marrying ! I know of a few AB friends' Kids who have thus married & are vry happy !The"Blu&hot blooded" Girls are 4 others !
in short its time to come out,accept the reality & marry acceptable girls of other caste and solve the problem. I am moving along those lines if nothing clicks soon.
btw TI stands for tamil iyers
here is the whole conversation pasted without IDs. easy to follow ..
A serious issue - Brahmin boys not getting girls from the same community.
Ooru , Innam konja naal pona nalla OC/FC Hindu pongalae kadakaradhu kastam ayyudum... Surely if Congress comes to power again ! Only Parachees, Hybrids or Kaka/Nasrani kuttigal thaan kadaipa .
So you are expecting all minority benefits in future
OC/OBC come under minority and govt. supports them, that's what I heard
Brahmin boys not getting girls... for what..?
Kalyanathukku
Kalyanam
Oh.. ok.
PI la comment pannarathai govanama irukkanam.. illai nna thappa eduthuppa...
Ummkitte solution edachi erukka
Thedanam thedanam... thedikitte irukkanam...
Taatha aayiduvai thedi thedi
ppo neenga yaar kalyanathukkuu ponnu paaka porel?
Ellam namma close friendukkudhan
Our community girls manasu vekkanam... Brahmin boys than kalyanam pannippen chollanam... Illai nna no solution..
Appo sari
Kalikalam
Thatha akara varaaukkum boys wait panna ready ah irukka.. ana girls....???
Girls - smart - no waitinggu
So that I said.... Our girls than manasu vekkanam nnu....
vadama, dosama, idlyma.... edho onuu.. ponnu kodungaiyaa... $ rate eri pochu... vayasu hussain bolt madri fast podhu.... pasanga naanga pavam
Now need to conduct a survey to check - the number of eligible bachelors in PI and see how the group can help to find a suitable match - task is biggu
neer vaazhga.. indru dhan PI la oru best suggestion vandhiruku... un pugazh onnguga
need an advice from the seniors, especially lawers if any. The matter is, I am a paid member of a matrimial group for a long time, and I can view the phone number's of more than 600 profiles now.
So what do you want to do now ?
if I prepare a database with contact phone numbers of profiles, it may help someone in this group searching brides. The question is, whether it is legal to publish tha data base? Surely, I won't mention the profile ID. Expecting your opinions
hehe..... 600 profile parthitinga... sandosama thaachundu thoongungo... adhellam velaiku aagadhu naa........
matrimony admin ... semma adi kodupaar ungaluku... franshise open panringala nu kettu
All 600 got married and have kids by now
Aren't there dedicated matrimony sites for that? Why convert PI forum to a dallaL forum?
Send them personally for interested ones Mahadeva Iyer. I think don't need to publish in PI.
Avalavu seekrama?
Why not, if some one get to tie a knot
There should be a dedicated site for PI, you visit any agraharam in PGT, you will get to see min 15-20 un married boys with good education and with no bad habittu
This you came to know only, otherwise - think out of the box payya
PI members.. MOI vepingala sollunga.... PI group la oru marriage swayamvar nadatha naan rdy .... who will join hands me
Ok, please consider, I withdrawn the question. Publishing it won't be a good idea.
yea... appa.. atlast purinjichaaa..... i give my personal numbr.. nekku mattum anupungo naa
Food post mattum podungo
It was a question with good intention . Who knows it will help anyone in our group..
Swayamvarathukku .. thaan, event Manager.
designation koduthu orangatadheengo... I m also one participant yaaa..... 1st applicant...
recently I gave the contact number of a profile to one of my friend, and that marriage got finalized. That was my motivation.
ponnu kodutha podhum.... full meals enna.... intercontinental, italian... 100 varieties of menu poda pasanga rdy..... karan thaapar... arnab... indha matter yen discuss panna matranga..
Hope next lucky person will be Or it could be ooru naatamai's close friend.
n NP, U are abso RIGHT ! The basic probsd are starting fm that side...another prob is that irrespective of wat a boy does/studies/wher /wat position- at least 80%- of them tend 2 bcom Mamas boys which is not liked by girls & cramp their style/status(?) /wl not be able to wriggle out & boys get rejected outright....
sari sari.. masa masa nu irukama.... ellarum porupa ava ava aaathula, pakkathula irukara pon kolandhainga pics, details vangikungo.... sundal saapida pogum podhu indha navratri la.. naan kodukara task idhu dhaan for all PI member maami's... PI eligible bachelors.. warm urslf up for a grand swayamvar..
Onga athula irukkarava ellam enna pannara ... ava kittai modhal la sollungo...
Ghoomna phirna, Live-in engagement karlena, ladke ko mottai karna/marna sab teek hai magar Saat phere lena nahi chaahte.... Many of our own PIs are going to chunchufy now.... Buts that the pure reality.... Pacchanijam !
Hindi thoda thoda hi malum sir.
uncle: 1 girl : 100 boys competition.. idhula 1000 sv sekar manal kayiru conditions vera from girls side.... ivlo hvy competition school studies, sports la kooda face pannadhu ila .. ya @ home they do c.... but DOS machine.. slow processing speed... time is precious... to speed up d process.. on behalf of bachelors of PI ... voice
Going back to pancali era
asku busku.. nooooooo mr. nattamai...
Ok ji. ooru chittal, orae roof kizha ounichu irrukaradhu -ippodhan naraya sootram vandurikae marindha-kadayala... namma padsangalum jollu kottindu naaka neetidu, poozhi paanam mara vizhindhudura-pullaiai Mottai adikaradhu, Pakshe avan kuda Saptapadhi Varam eduthu kalyanam mathram modiyadhu....
sony to surya
Amba, Swayamamvarthuku, hall booking panniyacha ?
Your hindi was little bit better sir
How many matrimonial you need. Will you accept TI. I will give you minimum 50 per week Ooru Nattamai
good 1 .. uncle
Amam.. antha sentence kku ethavathu hindi dictionary pathu meaning therinjukalam... Ana intha sentence kku inime than dictionary release pannanam...
Appidi podu , n ! Lets start cross border PI-TI alliances than out of caste ! At least Known Devils are better than THE Unknown !
Namma mattum nenacha porathu sir, antha girls kooda manasu vekkanam...
.. apaadiyeee cheerapunji madri kottttoo kottunu mazhai penjidumey
Why doubt ...? ava manasu vechiruntha neenga intha mathiri pulambindu irukka mattele illaya..
Plenty is available. The possible reason could be 1. parents are expecting higher income from boys family 2. Girls prefer to marry from outside 3.Boys are less educated than girls 4. Many parents are dependent of daughters income 5. Age of boys are lit...See More
.. enna ipdi posukunu.. asinga paduthitingaa.. i no polambings... my voice for all eligible shy bachelors of PI... enna dnt target alone ya
sir.... list goes onnnnnnnnnnn......... extra time i give u.. additional sheet kooda kodukaren.. niraya sollunga... guys we r rdy to listen.. but 1st ponnu koduthitu.. pesa aarambinga.....
Thats exactly what I meant ji . Boys are adjusting and compromising BUT the present Gen Girls.... Enna karranumao ? Food,Friends, Atmosphere Or is it from family due to their earning levels ?
ada CBSE la padichu. double, triple degree vaangi.. 6 digit verum tax mattumey pay panra pasanga naanga..... appdiyum application reject aagudheyyyy...... YYYYYYYYYYYYYY ???? mukkiyamana form adhu ila idhul illa.. nu y nondi saaaku
, There are other reasons also posted by ...
jus like govt office... edachum oru mukkiyamana form illa nu reject panra madri... some nuisance of the nonsense reason solli reject panrango...i pity all bachelors manasa thalara vidaatheenga.... boys... Wheel revolves.. we will ve our times
TI are having this problem for about 10 years now. it is estimated about 50,000 30+ TI boys without brides. They dont mind PI girls and would grab them when available.
For those who want to get married, they can try to loosen the criteria - starting from 'no horoscope', TI, other southie states Brahmins, vegetarian other castes. Situation for boys tough in almost all southern states, including NB in Tamil Nadu.
I agree with sir...Also my suggestion...disregard the status of girls family. Oru nalla Iyer girl from poor family aa irunthalum othukungo...
Dear , there is no guarantee that ' Oru nalla Iyer girl from poor family' will accept the bachelor. it is very important not to be patronizing or 'as if you are performing a charity'. i think there has to be a radical change in attitude in our community re populating for the next generation.
the namboodris and some other communities in the souh, facing the same problem, look for spouses in the orphanages. these orphan girls come with an advantage - they are happy for a good loving household, and willing to learn/blend with brahmin customs/...See More
there r no solutions except to marry girls outside Brahmin community.how many parents,elders accept that?not many! but I am seriously looking at that option & I dont see wats wrong.looking @ da pitiful situation,darts da only way.
I suppose this is because of late brahmin girls have been marrying outside our community...hence this problem. This is my observation.. i dont intend to offend anybody...Before you people jump to conclusions.. i would like to clear your doubt.. my husband belong to iyer community only!!!
Appadiyé ponnu kedachchalum,pitthe naalakké ódi póyidara!. Yaar thappu'?really this is a serious issue and to solve this problem I don't blame community. Parents are the best guide and advisor for their children. Most of Brahmin are well educated and have healthy cultural heredity. Think and advice pls.
Avanga problem avangalukkudhan puriyum
Romba padichalum problemoo
Gud mng all ., U hv touched a vry vry tru&rgt point... I know of a a few such cases whr girls have been taken frm rehab/Orphanages ! The fact is the girls are far far better as Partners/DIL-SIL/wife /Mothers.! No nakras adjusting and also keeping the hubby family happy ! Other "throughbred" jantus full of conditions & demands-wth thr family&siblings as pakavadyam! If earning a PM a portion HAS to go their family ? I will add some more read on... Shobha B ,This is becos of outside 'comm. ruchi"
by marrying girls outside Hindus can also bring more integration.if its okay for gals to run away & marry, guyz shud take a bold step and decide wisely wat suits them
High Demand Low Supply.
,wat U sat that the Parents shud advice the girls-vice-versa to boys too-is OK...BUT wat about the parents who feel & bring up/rear daughters as A Permanent Kalpatharu plant & expect that they shud keep getting the benifits ! They pamper & girls in turn get emboldened & Egoistic Ahankaris..They expect the same treatment as fm parents&wen not turn around !!And turn the life and house of inlaws into a yudh shetra ! They Do not&cant be a woman including a mother ! But grt exceptions are there !!
So they have decided(Boys), better not to MARRY.
its serious now guyz may prefer to act or keep on whining.
Maram valarnnathinu sesham vellamozhichittu kaaryamilla. Mulachchu varumbol valavum vellavum kodukkanam. Dhivasavum paripaalikkanam. (Ithu englishil ezhuthaanariyilla). Ellam krishiyaanu. Kaakkayum kiliyum nokkikondéyirikkum koththi kondupókaan. Achchanum ammYum nalla kaavalkaarum athupóle krishkkarum aavanam.
In the offshore oil industry safety training sessions, the instructor will mention all the safety precautions and procedures. But the final word from him will be "If you are sure that, the safety procedure won't save you in a particular situation, then take a decision by your own." Now what I believe, the situation is like that, other's can't do anything in Iyer boys matrimonial cases ( no matter, how sincere they are), We are responsible for our future. Make own attempts and decisions.
1.Vittukkudukkum vaazhkayil otti vazhalaam.
2.Prepared for the worst and Hope for the Best.
ji,You are right. All handbooks,Manuals and trainings /Preparations are only upto time.... In actual conditions,field situations, combat conditions WE have to take a decision/s as per the 'situation', based on the trainings and experience ! YOU are Your Own Master and Judge...Your life and future is in your hands ! We cannot fall back on the 'BOOK' ! Thats wht they say "SWEAT IN THE PEACETIME..... BLEED LESS IN WARTIME" !
In Andhra's East and west Godavari region the Brahmins in the Aghraharms wud go to PI /TI areas and get girls from there... This was in vogue till about mid 60s ! Now even there there is grt disparity in M/F ratios and the existing girls-all educated,earning and independent..they always were -are hard to get!They are hunting out Sambandam products of other high castes &AB women&just marrying ! I know of a few AB friends' Kids who have thus married & are vry happy !The"Blu&hot blooded" Girls are 4 others !
in short its time to come out,accept the reality & marry acceptable girls of other caste and solve the problem. I am moving along those lines if nothing clicks soon.
