Relevance of a Star & Thithi

[S ANANDAN]

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The birth of Krishna & Rama are celebrated on Ashtami & Navami respectively.
Many other revered Saints' Birthdays are also celebrated as per their Thithi.
The wedding anniversary of Ram & Sita is celebrated on Panchami Thithi.

Why don't we celebrate our Birth Day with a reference of Thithi ?
Why don't we remember our Death Day with a reference of Star ?

S ANANDAN
9871057741
Brhamadesam (Tirunelveli District)
Tamil Nadu,
India

 

[sangom]

The birth of Krishna & Rama are celebrated on Ashtami & Navami respectively.
Many other revered Saints' Birthdays are also celebrated as per their Thithi.
The wedding anniversary of Ram & Sita is celebrated on Panchami Thithi.

Why don't we celebrate our Birth Day with a reference of Thithi ?
Why don't we remember our Death Day with a reference of Star ?

S ANANDAN
9871057741
Brhamadesam (Tirunelveli District)
Tamil Nadu,
India

Shri Anandan,

In the remote (long ago) past, our Indian (hindu) astrologers had only tithi (from which has come our Tamil தேதி. This was probably because those early astrologers put more emphasis on the new moon and full moon phenomena; even our months started with every fresh new moon/full moon.

The notion of star is a later introduction and shows the time when people started putting more emphasis on the nakshatra divisions which is basically very inscientific.

But today, in our popular mind Tithi is associated with after-death anniversary and so nobody will be prepared to reckon his/her child's birth w.r.t the tithi of birth. Vice versa also is true.

 

[P.J.]

The birth of Krishna & Rama are celebrated on Ashtami & Navami respectively.
Many other revered Saints' Birthdays are also celebrated as per their Thithi.
The wedding anniversary of Ram & Sita is celebrated on Panchami Thithi.

Why don't we celebrate our Birth Day with a reference of Thithi ?
Why don't we remember our Death Day with a reference of Star ?

S ANANDAN
9871057741
Brhamadesam (Tirunelveli District)
Tamil Nadu,
India

They are celebrated on the thithis in the respective lunar months.
Rama's birth day is not celebrated on his birth star, Punarvasu but on the thithi he was born. Let us see why.


Sir




A Thithi is different from a star.
When we speak about star, we actually refer to 1/ 27[SUP]th[/SUP] portion of the circle of 360 degrees of the zodiac. This is equal to 13-20 degrees. Starting from zero degrees Aries, the sky (Zodiac) is divided into 27 equal parts and each part is known by a star present in that part.





Thithi is the distance between the Moon and the sun. The starting point is not Aries. The starting point is the conjunction of the moon and the sun (Amavsaya).


The distance from one conjunction to another is a circle which means 360 degrees. This distance is covered in 30 days. So in one day 12 degrees are covered. A Thithi thus has 12 degrees whereas the star has 13-20 degrees. The conjunction of a star and a particular Thithi will not be repeated every year.






For ordinary mortals like us, the birth star (birth star is the star in which moon transits on the day of birth) determines our thoughts, attitudes and life events.
For Gods, there is no such thing that a star can do to them!!.

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2010/03/rama-navami-why-celebrate-ramas.html

 

[yesmohan]

P.J. Sir,

The explanation for thithi is made in a good way.

 

[yesmohan]

Sir



Thithi is the distance between the Moon and the sun. The starting point is not Aries. The starting point is the conjunction of the moon and the sun (Amavsaya).
The distance from one conjunction to another is a circle which means 360 degrees. This distance is covered in 30 days. So in one day 12 degrees are covered. A Thithi thus has 12 degrees

A Thithi has 12 degrees in an average.
But a thithi is of 10.8 degrees magnitude when the moon is nearer to apogee, in its elliptical orbit around the earth;
A thithi is of 13.8 degrees when the moon is nearer to perigee, in its elliptical orbit around the earth;
Therefore the magnitude (in degrees) of one thithi will not be equal to another thithi.
In “time” measurement also the time duration (in gatis & vigatis)of one thithi will not be equal to another thithi……. This could be easily counter checked with any almanac.

 

[yesmohan]

When we speak about star, we actually refer to 1/ 27[SUP]th[/SUP] portion of the circle of 360 degrees of the zodiac. This is equal to 13-20 degrees. Starting from zero degrees Aries, the sky (Zodiac) is divided into 27 equal parts and each part is known by a star present in that part.

Celestial sphere if 360º and dividing it by number of junction stars-27 we get an average of 13º20’. This is true for Astrology which is based on average theory not on actual positions of stars.
P.J. Sir, for your perusal, I quotes a the positions of FIRST 8 junction STARS
as given (in HINDU Indian Astronomy) by Varahamihirar in his Surya Sidhaantham as compared with the scientific positions of the same stars as furnished by Mr. BURGESS in his version A Text Book on Indian Astronomy” .
Youwill find the magnitude of star Aswini is 12 º 9’ as per Hindu Asronomy of Varaahamihirar where as and true astronomical position of Aswini is ( 14 º 06’)

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[TD]Asvini
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[TD]11
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[TD]59
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[TD]13
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[TD]56
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[TD]12
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[TD]9
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[TD]14
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[TD]6
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[TD]Bharani
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[TD]24
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[TD]35
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[TD]26
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[TD]54
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[TD]12
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[TD]36
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[TD]12
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[TD]58
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[TD]Kritika
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[TD]8
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[TD]39
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[TD]58
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[TD]14
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[TD]33
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[TD]13
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[TD]4
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[TD]4
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[TD]Rohini
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[TD]48
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[TD]9
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[TD]49
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[TD]45
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[TD]9
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[TD]1
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[TD]9
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[TD]47
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[TD]5
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[TD]Mrgasirsha
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[TD]61
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[TD]3
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[TD]63
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[TD]40
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[TD]12
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[TD]54
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[TD]13
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[TD]55
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[TD][/TD]
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[TD]6
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[TD]Ardra
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[TD]65
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[TD]50
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[TD]68
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[TD]43
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[TD]4
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[TD]47
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[TD]5
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[TD]3
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[TD]7
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[TD]Punarvasu
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[TD]92
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[TD]52
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[TD]93
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[TD]14
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[TD]27
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[TD]2
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[TD]24
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[TD]31
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD]8
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[TD]Pushya
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[TD]106
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[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]108
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[TD]42
[/TD]
[TD]13
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[TD]8
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[TD]15
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[TD]28
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[P.J.]

P.J. Sir,

The explanation for thithi is made in a good way.

Thanks yesmohan Sir