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Beliefs are not accorded the status of truths whereas knowledge is. So what is truth? In an ideal sense those that hold universally and in a timeless way. For example the concept of Brahman. what sort of evidence do some thing need to be considered truths? I would say physical evidence and apt logic that exp[lains it perfectly with no possibility of contradictions.

Is Science then a belief system or a system of knowledge? Proclamations of Science are neither universal nor timeless. what is true in Science today is replaced by something else in the future. We do not know about universality but we can say if they are not timeless they not universal. Law of gravity may not hold in some spaces or may be different. Is science atleast verifiable? Not fully except for the physical evidence that it totally relies upon. but the logic are not irrefutable making the intellectual evidence shaky. The theories keep changing for the same evidence.

So science as is theorized and practised today is a system that solely hinges on physical evidence. How reliable is physical evidence? Not quite because they are tested at a particular point of time. we do not know the evolving status of the evidence. So there is a problem there too.

What about spirituality? It does talk about the universal and the timeless such as brahman and maya etc . Can we verify whether it is universal and timeless? Not by physical evidence but by logic and intuition. Logic that is not contradictory. Thats a huge thing. If we have to explain everything in nature starting from the creation of the universe and the origin and nature of space and time, the logic of timelessness has to unfold. The fact that we can see spiritual truths through our mind is consistent with spiritual knowledge though manifestation or implications can be physically seen.

So we see spirituality on a much stronger ground when it comes to deciding which is knowledge system and which is belief system.

<blockquote data-quote="sravna" data-source="post: 482157" data-attributes="member: 9210">Beliefs are not accorded the status of truths whereas knowledge is. So what is truth? In an ideal sense those that hold universally and in a timeless way. For example the concept of Brahman. what sort of evidence do some thing need to be considered truths? I would say physical evidence and apt logic that exp[lains it perfectly with no possibility of contradictions. Is Science then a belief system or a system of knowledge? Proclamations of Science are neither universal nor timeless. what is true in Science today is replaced by something else in the future. We do not know about universality but we can say if they are not timeless they not universal. Law of gravity may not hold in some spaces or may be different. Is science atleast verifiable? Not fully except for the physical evidence that it totally relies upon. but the logic are not irrefutable making the intellectual evidence shaky. The theories keep changing for the same evidence. So science as is theorized and practised today is a system that solely hinges on physical evidence. How reliable is physical evidence? Not quite because they are tested at a particular point of time. we do not know the evolving status of the evidence. So there is a problem there too.What about spirituality? It does talk about the universal and the timeless such as brahman and maya etc . Can we verify whether it is universal and timeless? Not by physical evidence but by logic and intuition. Logic that is not contradictory. Thats a huge thing.&nbsp; If we have to explain everything in nature starting from the creation of the universe and the origin and nature of space and time, the logic of timelessness has to unfold. The fact that we can see spiritual truths through our mind is consistent with spiritual knowledge though manifestation or implications can be physically seen. So we see spirituality on a much stronger ground when it comes to deciding which is knowledge system and which is belief system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sravna, post: 482157, member: 9210"] Beliefs are not accorded the status of truths whereas knowledge is. So what is truth? In an ideal sense those that hold universally and in a timeless way. For example the concept of Brahman. what sort of evidence do some thing need to be considered truths? I would say physical evidence and apt logic that exp[lains it perfectly with no possibility of contradictions. Is Science then a belief system or a system of knowledge? Proclamations of Science are neither universal nor timeless. what is true in Science today is replaced by something else in the future. We do not know about universality but we can say if they are not timeless they not universal. Law of gravity may not hold in some spaces or may be different. Is science atleast verifiable? Not fully except for the physical evidence that it totally relies upon. but the logic are not irrefutable making the intellectual evidence shaky. The theories keep changing for the same evidence. So science as is theorized and practised today is a system that solely hinges on physical evidence. How reliable is physical evidence? Not quite because they are tested at a particular point of time. we do not know the evolving status of the evidence. So there is a problem there too. What about spirituality? It does talk about the universal and the timeless such as brahman and maya etc . Can we verify whether it is universal and timeless? Not by physical evidence but by logic and intuition. Logic that is not contradictory. Thats a huge thing. If we have to explain everything in nature starting from the creation of the universe and the origin and nature of space and time, the logic of timelessness has to unfold. The fact that we can see spiritual truths through our mind is consistent with spiritual knowledge though manifestation or implications can be physically seen. So we see spirituality on a much stronger ground when it comes to deciding which is knowledge system and which is belief system. [/QUOTE]

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