Weakness

[H.Krishnamurthy]

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Before Mahabaratha yuddham it was decided to send Lord Krishna to Kaurava sabhai as mission to keep peace and avoid War.
On behalf of Pandavaas Dharma , the eldest of pandava , was authorised by all pandavaas to make final offer. accordingly if Duryodhana refuses to part off with half the Kingdom atleast 5 villages for pandavaas for normal living was the proposal made by Dharma.
Accordingly Krishna proceeded to Hastinapur
On his way he was analysing the strength and real threat for paandavaas from Kauravas in case of a War.
Pithamaga Bheeshma , Achaarya Dronacharyar , Maharathi Karnan and Vithuran are the names came to his mind.
He could find a way to counter all except Vithuran . Lord Krishna on reaching Hastinapur reaches vithura's Residence and asks him for the solution or the means and methods to counter him. Vithuhra laughs at him and advice him to go to the Arasa sabhai and meet Duruyodhana first and inform your arrival there and take time to discuss the issue tomorrow and tell him that you wish to stay with me tonight .
Everything went on as planned and Krishna Reached Vithuraa's Residence for Night stay . After all formalities Vithura and Krishna started taking about the pros and cos in case of a War .
Vithura asked Krishna how paandavaas are going to tackle Pithamagar , Achaaryar and Karnan .
Krishna explained Vithura that all the three are Maharathis and it is impossible to win them in war field except for their weaknesses .
Bheeshma will not take his bow against a lady , his weakness, so Sikandy is there to tackle him
Dronacharya will throw all his weapons incase if some thing wrong against his son Aswathaama , so that was his weakness
Karnan is ready to do anything if somebody sorts out the secret of his Birth , so that was his weakness .
Now Sir please tell me about your Weakness .
Vithuraa's reply was cool and simple . My weakness is Duryodhanaa and to aggravate this I requested your stay with me Every thing went on as planned and Vithuran didnot participated in the war , Pandavaa won the Battle.

 

[krish44]

nice story.thanks

 

[GNANA SUNYAM]

why would Krishna the omniscient ask vithuraa the strategy to tackle him, I wonder!!!!

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Dear Sir,

Not only these historical characters, but IMO each and every individual has his own strength and weaknesses.

How many go for self-evaluation?

Most talk about others weaknesses and spend time happily..

 

[GNANA SUNYAM]

Dear Sir,

Not only these historical characters, but IMO each and every individual has his own strength and weaknesses.

How many go for self-evaluation?

Most talk about others weaknesses and spend time happily..

what is Krishna's weakness

 

[H.Krishnamurthy]

A one line statement about Krishna Which will explain his weakness
One who follow Lord Krishna will go to his Birth place ( Jail )
One who follow his teachings ( Bagavath Gita ) will go to the Birth place of Lord Rama (Palace )
Now you decide what is Krishna's Weakness

 

[H.Krishnamurthy]

Sir your next question could be When Lord Krishna could deliver Kilo meters of sarees to Draupathy why not using his trick change the Dhaya kattai used by sakuni to make Dharma victorious

 

[Raji Ram]

Sir your next question could be When Lord Krishna could deliver Kilo meters of sarees to Draupathy why not using his trick change the Dhaya kattai used by sakuni to make Dharma victorious

Lord Krishna wanted the war to happen, to get rid of the wicked people.

So, he did NOT help the PAndavAs during the dice game.

 

[H.Krishnamurthy]

Not only your comments madam , before start of Dice game Dharmar told everyone not to inform Lord Krishna about the competition bcoz he may stop the one . But Draupathy cried for help calling Krishna repeatedly. The justification is you call for help the almighty will help you , you don't call him he will not voluntarily come and help you . Anyway it is vidhi to get rid of wicked people

 

[V.Balasubramani]

what is Krishna's weakness

Why did Lord Krishna's son Samba gave birth to a mace??

 

[Raji Ram]

Not only your comments madam , before start of Dice game Dharmar told everyone not to inform Lord Krishna about the competition bcoz he may stop the one . But Draupathy cried for help calling Krishna repeatedly. The justification is you call for help the almighty will help you , you don't call him he will not voluntarily come and help you . Anyway it is vidhi to get rid of wicked people

Dear Sir,

It is also said that till Draupadi was holding her saree, Krishna did not appear
and only when she totally surrendered to Him, He helped her. ray:

Courtesy: Google images

 

[renuka]

Sir your next question could be When Lord Krishna could deliver Kilo meters of sarees to Draupathy why not using his trick change the Dhaya kattai used by sakuni to make Dharma victorious

Game of dice among Kshatriyas is within their Dharma...tricks and cunning methods are part and parcel of gambling.

So Krishna had no valid reason to intervene.

Just like God does not interfere when a Lion stalks a deer to kill it for food..its the Dharma of the Lion to hunt prey using all tactics best known to it...Likewise Sakuni was the Lion here and Yudhisthira the deer.

But in case of Draupadi...it was Adharmic to remove her garments in public..therefore Krishna intervened.

 

[sravna]

Game of dice among Kshatriyas is within their Dharma...tricks and cunning methods are part and parcel of gambling.

So Krishna had no valid reason to intervene.

Just like God does not interfere when a Lion stalks a deer to kill it for food..its the Dharma of the Lion to hunt prey using all tactics best known to it...Likewise Sakuni was the Lion here and Yudhisthira the deer.

But in case of Draupadi...it was Adharmic to remove her garments in public..therefore Krishna intervened.

Well said Renuka. My own comments are this:

There is a difference between God using weaknesses and humans exploiting weaknesses. God's purpose is always directed towards greater good and cannot be considered as exploitation

 

[vgane]

Well said Renuka. My own comments are this:

There is a difference between God using weaknesses and humans exploiting weaknesses. God's purpose is always directed towards greater good and cannot be considered as exploitation

Sravnaji,

Well said!

 

[sravna]

Sravnaji,

Well said!

Thank you sir

 

[krish44]

God is human creation.

How does one decide that God efforts is for greater human good and God is not using weakness of humanbeings.

These can at best be imagination of human mind of sravnaji

 

[Raji Ram]

God is human creation. ........

Dear Krish Sir,

Of course it is true. But, there IS one power which controls us and we experience it several times in life.

Hence the sayings, 'Many a slip between the cup and the lip'; 'Man proposes and God disposes'!

Then the Q arises, 'Why should we pray God / Almighty?' Praying the Almighty, in whichever form we worship,

gives us some positive thinking that there is some power to help us in our endeavours; and even if we fail, we can

think that it is Almighty's wish!

 

[sravna]

Dear Shri Krish,

I believe everyone has God hidden in him. By elevating our mind we reach that state of divinity. What we call as God is a human who has all the right qualities and who has irreversibly risen above trivial and selfish thoughts.

 

[renuka]

Well said Renuka. My own comments are this:

There is a difference between God using weaknesses and humans exploiting weaknesses. God's purpose is always directed towards greater good and cannot be considered as exploitation

Agreed...but looking at it from another point of view is..God is beyond strength and weaknesses of anyone or anything..therefore all that remains is ACTION and DUTY.

The Avatar has to perform ACTION of upholding Dharma..so He was just doing His duty too.

I dont think there was any intention for greater good or bad.

 

[renuka]

Dear Shri Krish,

I believe everyone has God hidden in him. By elevating our mind we reach that state of divinity. What we call as God is a human who has all the right qualities and who has irreversibly risen above trivial and selfish thoughts.

Dear Sravna,

I somehow do not 100% subscribe to the theory that God is hidden in us.

I feel we are living entities that have many facets ..sometimes we appear good and other times we appear not so good or even bad.

The mind technically can not hold on to any sort of thought too long.

Therefore I do not think any human can be 100% good all the while or 100% bad all the while.

Mind undergoes fatigue after even elevating itself to so called higher levels.

BUT in a deeper state as philosophy claims there is neither good nor bad nor ugly...Deep sleep of a saint or a serial killer is totally the same...both are totally unaware of anything even though vital organs are still functioning in background.

The question still remains..is deep sleep totally absence of thoughts? After all the subconscious mind still functions..vital organs and hormones still function in background..doesnt this have an effect even in deep sleep?

May be there is some unknown effect which we do not remember upon waking.

 

[sravna]

Agreed...but looking at it from another point of view is..God is beyond strength and weaknesses of anyone or anything..therefore all that remains is ACTION and DUTY.

The Avatar has to perform ACTION of upholding Dharma..so He was just doing His duty too.

I dont think there was any intention for greater good or bad.

Dear Renuka,

But it is the underlying principle behind His actions

 

[renuka]

Dear Renuka,

But it is the underlying principle behind His actions

If God gets actively involved than the theory of Karma becomes invalid.

 

[sravna]

If God gets actively involved than the theory of Karma becomes invalid.

Dear Renuka,

It is about getting the right quantum of spiritual energy in space-time. So much of spiritual energy is infused by God's presence in satya yuga so that it is the golden age of spirituality. The energy gradually gets depleted due to physical forces and is at its lowest during kali yuga though by avatars God puts back some balance periodically.

So I think God's presence now and then is necessary for infusion of spiritual energy into the universe. The cycle of yugas is itself necessary for gaining all possible experiences.

 

[renuka]

Dear Renuka,

It is about getting the right quantum of spiritual energy in space-time. So much of spiritual energy is infused by God's presence in satya yuga so that it is the golden age of spirituality. The energy gradually gets depleted due to physical forces and is at its lowest during kali yuga though by avatars God puts back some balance periodically.

So I think God's presence now and then is necessary for infusion of spiritual energy into the universe. The cycle of yugas is itself necessary for gaining all possible experiences.

Dear Sravna,

If spiritual energy from the God principle waxes and wanes....that means the God principle is subject to change and this is totally not in sync with Advaita.

If you feel that God needs to put back some balance periodically...that would only mean inefficiency.


Sravna...I feel you have started to worship Spiritual Energy now instead of even God..this amounts to Shirk(Shirik)..meaning that deviating from duty of worshiping God.

BTW the English word Shirk..as in to shirk from one's responsibility is from the Arabic word Shirk.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

If spiritual energy from the God principle waxes and wanes....that means the God principle is subject to change and this is totally not in sync with Advaita.

If you feel that God needs to put back some balance periodically...that would only mean inefficiency.


Sravna...I feel you have started to worship Spiritual Energy now instead of even God..this amounts to Shirk(Shirik)..meaning that deviating from duty of worshiping God.

BTW the English word Shirk..as in to shirk from one's responsibility is from the Arabic word Shirk.

No Renuka, God principle is not subject to change . Read the last line where I say there is a purpose to waxing and waning of spiritual energy through the yugas.