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Why this trend nowadays?

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Why this trend nowadays?

Some where I read:

"By the time a women realizes her mother was right, she has a daughter who thinks she's wrong."

This could be also be :

“By the time a man realizes his father was right, he has a son who thinks he’s wrong”

In those days, daughters never thought like that, so also sons.

Those who were born during 1930 to 1945 or 1950 might never have disagreed with their parents; a few rare cases might be there.

We used to respect our parents and never disobeyed them, but now a days, we hear more disagreement between parents and their wards; why this is so?

Is this because the way, the present day children are brought up, taught, move in the society?
 
Why this trend nowadays?

Some where I read:

"By the time a women realizes her mother was right, she has a daughter who thinks she's wrong."

This could be also be :

“By the time a man realizes his father was right, he has a son who thinks he’s wrong”

In those days, daughters never thought like that, so also sons.

Those who were born during 1930 to 1945 or 1950 might never have disagreed with their parents; a few rare cases might be there.

We used to respect our parents and never disobeyed them, but now a days, we hear more disagreement between parents and their wards; why this is so?

Is this because the way, the present day children are brought up, taught, move in the society?

Shri PJ,

I think this change has been due to the fact that there is an all-round awareness that children are simply a by-product of the sexual enjoyment of their parents. From this it follows that the parents become, kind of culprits, if they do not give the best of respects to their children — something like atithi devo bhava of our upanishads. You will be well aware of the law/s relating to cruelty to children which operate in many foreign countries.like Sweden and more recently in NJ, etc. Parents therefore have come to be looked upon as people who are bound by duty to assist, support and keep their children happy at all times and parental authority has simply vanished.
 
Today's generation believes that the parents are old fashioned by present yardsticks. Most of the younger generation is more educated than their parents and therefore do not attach much importance to parents' advice.
 
Today's generation believes that the parents are old fashioned by present yardsticks. Most of the younger generation is more educated than their parents and therefore do not attach much importance to parents' advice.

Sir I would not make that blanket statement.
All my siblings are more educated than our parents, it did not reduce our respect for them. Respect can not be demanded, respect has to be earned.

We too sometimes felt that we knew more than our parents, and it was true, but did not disrespect them.
It all depends on the upbringing, my parents respected their parents, so all of us siblings follow similar principle.
I am sure if my parents did not respect their parents, we would not respect them in our turn. Instead of blaming our children, we should analyse our behavior. The children are influenced by our values, they may not display the same values, but it conditions their thinking. Children may not follow the advice they get, because the society they live is different than pur own.
 
Present day youths, boys and girls, earn more than their father; that gives them a sort of power to protest and disagree with their parents; secondly, in those days, youths born between 1935 up to 1960 did not have many social sites to pollute their ego; The present day youths are possibly misguided by various medias, movies, TV serials, etc.
 
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Why this trend nowadays?

Some where I read:

"By the time a women realizes her mother was right, she has a daughter who thinks she's wrong."

This could be also be :

“By the time a man realizes his father was right, he has a son who thinks he’s wrong”

In those days, daughters never thought like that, so also sons.

Those who were born during 1930 to 1945 or 1950 might never have disagreed with their parents; a few rare cases might be there.

We used to respect our parents and never disobeyed them, but now a days, we hear more disagreement between parents and their wards; why this is so?

Is this because the way, the present day children are brought up, taught, move in the society?

I was born in 1945. I disagreed with my parents on many things. Most of my friends also disagreed with their parents. It was quite common.

But we did not have the freedom to express our disagreement. There was violent suppression.

Having gone through the trauma of not being able to express my disagreement with my parents, I allowed my children the freedom of expressing their disagreement with my views. We have healthy interaction.

Getting old does not mean getting wise. Wisdom is not judged by your physical age. We have realized it now.

This has been happening in every generation. The only difference is that now we allow our children to express thir views. This is a great improvement on the attitude of the earlier generations especially among the Tamil Brahmins of violent reaction to any disagreement.

This is progress which is to be welcomed.
 
Why would any parent disagree with their children on any matter unless they fear that the decision of their son or daughter might affect them in any way; "By the time a women realizes her mother was right" means they realize their fault; Parents, normally in any age, do not give their advice on any matter unless it is pertaining to the welfare of their children.
 
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Why would any parent disagree with their children on any matter unless they fear that the decision of their son or daughter might affect them in any way; "By the time a women realizes her mother was right" means they realize their fault; Parents, normally in any age, do not give their advice on any matter unless it is pertaining to the welfare of their children.

To quote a live example, my mother wanted me to study Engineering as her nephews were all studying Engineering. Though I was not keen I had no option but to study Engineering.

Then when I wanted to take up a job, my father was very keen that I should get an employment only in Government or public sector undertaking. He firmly believed that all private sector undertaking would go belly up and I would be without a job. Again his attitude to my changing companies for better prospect was negative. He believed that you join some organization and stick to it till the end of your career.

My father's attitude reflected the thinking of the Tamil Brahmins in general at that time.

Let me pose a question. When the Tamil Brahmins left their native villages for jobs in the cities, How many parents were happy about it. Even when they objected did the children stay in villages? They did not.

Parents give advice for the welfare of the children. But within their own perceptions, like the parents who advised their children to stay back in the village and look after the lands. But the advice is not always good.
 
To quote a live example, my mother wanted me to study Engineering as her nephews were all studying Engineering. Though I was not keen I had no option but to study Engineering.

Then when I wanted to take up a job, my father was very keen that I should get an employment only in Government or public sector undertaking. He firmly believed that all private sector undertaking would go belly up and I would be without a job. Again his attitude to my changing companies for better prospect was negative. He believed that you join some organization and stick to it till the end of your career.

My father's attitude reflected the thinking of the Tamil Brahmins in general at that time.

Let me pose a question. When the Tamil Brahmins left their native villages for jobs in the cities, How many parents were happy about it. Even when they objected did the children stay in villages? They did not.

Parents give advice for the welfare of the children. But within their own perceptions, like the parents who advised their children to stay back in the village and look after the lands. But the advice is not always good.

Very good observation, and expressed with a dose of reality. LOL
 
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sankara sir,
sorry about your case; you did not mention whether you were born in 1930- 50 period.
Normally, in those days, parents very seldom interfere in matters connected with education unless they are financially not good; they only interfere in matters related to marriage.
There was a period when Government job was considered secured, but not nowadays.
It seems you had an option to study the course you wanted or not, but for those born between 1930-50 they had very few options, and whatever was available was taken.
Regarding jobs, there was not much scope either in Private sector or in Government Sector, and whatever job one could get , we had to cling to that profession.
There was a period when Teachers were paid very less, but i now learn even Government Schools are paying decent salary in Tamil Nadu.
Everyone can not become a Doctor or Engineer, and even if one does becomes a doctor or engineer it all depends upon how hard working he is.
Even without any basic education, people succeed in life doing business,in politics, in Arts and Cine Field and so on.
 
We must have to gives some concession to selective memory. For those of us, past 50, our teens are a distant timeline, and most of us are orphans, such that our parents, who might have a different opinion of how we behaved, are long gone.

So far, I have only relative, who has confessed that he was a troublesome child, and brought problems (oor vambu) home.

All the rest including moi, consider ourselves goody two shoes - which means we tend to forget the bad, and remember only the good. which may not be bad in the ultimate picture of things.

For our times, our demands were probably more than what our parents could afford. Maybe we did not express our desires, in the knowledge that our request would be a futile exercise.

Times today have changed beyond the normal linear progression. One must not discount not only the improved communication, which makes a novelty in one part of the world, becomes a desirability for rest of the world, almost immediately. Thanks to the internet, sights and sounds of Europe or America, are no longer exotic. This I speak for most urban Indians, middle class and above.

Add to it the rise in living standards and increased prosperity. Today’s parents have far more disposable income, and small families – the result being that there is more money over fewer headcounts.

Just last week in Neeya Naana show of Vijay TV, there was a discussion on pocket money for teen aged college students. The selected group, across all tamil society, but all middle class (from the looks of it) were having a lifestyle and gadgets, much similar to any teenager in the west. Except, in India, it was considered an entitlement to be expected from the parents, whereas in the west, most teenagers, take up some part time job to fund their fancies and whims.

The teenagers in the neeya naana show had an average of over 1000 ruppees per month as pocket money, with many of them much more than that. Also 70% of these and their counterparts outside, confessed to taking money from their household, without their parents’ knowledge.

Rightfully, so, Gopinath summed this up, as parents not doing their job right. Strict discipline is not the solution. It is building of the trust, educating the child as to the value of the money and how to spend it wisely.

How many of today’s parents make it a deliberate habit to spend atleast an hour with their child, querying about what happened in their lives and providing input. So, it does come as surprise, when suddenly the child wants to marry someone, a progress that would have been evident, had their been continuous contact and interaction (hopefully)..

Parenting is always a challenge, if we take the role seriously. It is said, that the parents’ influence decreases exponentially, once the school age begins (at 6) with it being null around 14 or 15. Anything the parent says is opposed. It is only till the late twenties that the children come back, and appear to appreciate their parents (if ever).

So, if we search back in our own memory database, maybe some of us atleast, can accept the fact, that we were as much a challenge to our parents, as current day kids are to theirs. Atleast nothing has changed on that front.
 
There have been exemplary parents, good parents and just parents. In those days a family had more than 6 siblings on average and the parents main concern was to feed them. The siblings engaged each other as near about equals and the parents were almost out of sight for them. The eldest of the siblings, boy or a girl, played Hitler or Hitlerini. There were least distractions unlike these days, the horizon of life was very long distance, say a few light years away. The one child norm throws one or two only in the ring. The generation gap wears out both. Except a few, more parents were ignorant of rearing up their children as they were engaged in tending the maamiyars and maamanaars. But personality-wise strong parents command respect even today. Similarly, the good children today love their parents more intensely than folks of our time. But negative aspects are more prominent today because of the narrowing of life's opportunities. Yes it is a shift, and the old and the well versed (in adjustments) should adjust, adjoin or distance.
 
Very good analysis both from kunjuppu sir and Iyyarooran sir
Like these lines from kunjuppu sir "once the school age begins (at 6) with it being null around 14 or 15. Anything the parent says is opposed. It is only till the late twenties that the children come back, and appear to appreciate their parents (if ever).
I think it is "not in late twenties but in late forties"
And this observation from Iyyarooran sir 'the good children today love their parents more intensely than folks of our time. But negative aspects are more prominent today because of the narrowing of life's opportunities"
Yes, it is true, more protests than some 50 years back.

Thanks for some wonderful thoughts.
 
hi

Except, in India, it was considered an entitlement to be expected from the parents, whereas in the west, most teenagers, take up some part time job to fund their fancies and whims.

i agreed these words....there is no problem in west especially USA/UK/CANADA....i know one recent case in USA in the last

thanksgiving weekend story...a teen age high school boy wanted IPHONE 5 for black friday.....his father said that

if you do part time job...you can buy it....his father still uses normal phone...he said that i cant afford immediately....then the

high school boy joined immediately in SUBWAY for part time after school hours...now he can afford for himself....this same

may not be possible in india...the parents has to afford for it......a lot of high school do part time job at SUBWAY/MCDONELS

etc.....here is huge difference...
 
Why this trend nowadays?

Some where I read:

"By the time a women realizes her mother was right, she has a daughter who thinks she's wrong."

This could be also be :

“By the time a man realizes his father was right, he has a son who thinks he’s wrong”

In those days, daughters never thought like that, so also sons.

Those who were born during 1930 to 1945 or 1950 might never have disagreed with their parents; a few rare cases might be there.

We used to respect our parents and never disobeyed them, but now a days, we hear more disagreement between parents and their wards; why this is so?

Is this because the way, the present day children are brought up, taught, move in the society?

Dear Sir,

There were many things I never agreed with my parents but it is just that I never really showed them I disagreed.

I used to think "never mind it's ok..you guys can disagree now but when I am an adult I will do as I please"

So it is just that I delayed my disagreement.
 
Greetings.

Very nice discussion indeed.

As a father, I did not have to give much to our son by the way of pocket money. He was earning enough money. We only pumped in some good ethics for him to follow. He has taken off well. Good luck to him and his wife.

Our daughter told us not to give her any pocket money from her age of 17. She works flat out; studies not so flat out. She earns money for all her fancy expenses. I do spoil her every now and again.. ( as a father, it is my job, I suppose!). Good luck to her!..

Talking about our ( my childhood and my wife's childhood.. I know both.. we grew up in the same short street) childhood... nevermind!

Cheers!
 
Except, in India, it was considered an entitlement to be expected from the parents, whereas in the west, most teenagers, take up some part time job to fund their fancies and whims.
GOOD Morning!! Good Observation Kunjuppu sir. I can still remember one day when i was in the Hotel Industry, one western lady came to the cash counter with her little daughter tagging behind. The little girl was pestering her for some bright candies displayed at the mitthai shop and the Mother was not listening at all.I smilingly noded to her and indicated her daugher crying. Smilingly she said , yes i know and i have told her that it will not come free and she has to pack her baggages to earn that candies, and she is not doing that... so No candy... sweetheart"... After some time the small girl was walking with a big candy box and her mother pointedly came to the counter and told me that the child has packed her bags!! I still tell this incident whenever i see some kid asking money or gifts from me!! I am 100% sure that the small girl had learnt a big lesson that day that " NOTHING COMES FREE-AND YOU CAN ENJOY ONLY WHEN YOU EARN YOUR OWN FOOD!!-( I aslo learnt that that day!!)

Cheers
 
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