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Your 1000 years of DNA history

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[h=1]Interesting

Prof.D.V.R.Rajakumar

Now, know where your ancestors lived 1,000 years ago
[/h]New York, May 1 (IANS) In a groundbreaking research, scientists have developed a tool that can trace back the place where your DNA was formed up to 1,000 years ago.

The revolutionary Geographic Population Structure (GPS) tool works similarly to a satellite navigation system.
"What we have discovered here at the University of Sheffield is a way to find not where you were born - as you have that information on your passport - but where your DNA was formed up to 1,000 years ago by modelling these admixture processes," said Eran Elhaik of University of Sheffield.
Genetic admixture occurs when individuals from two or more previously separated populations begin interbreeding.
This results in the creation of new gene pools representing a mixture of the founder gene pool.
"What is remarkable is that, we can do this so accurately that we can locate the village where your ancestors lived hundreds and hundreds of years ago - until now this has never been possible," Elhaik added.
To demonstrate how accurate GPS predictions are, the researchers analysed data from 10 villages in Sardinia, the second largest island in the Mediterranean Sea and an autonomous region in Italy, and over 20 islands in Oceania.
The researchers were able to place a quarter of the residents in Sardinia directly to their home village and most of the remaining residents within 50 km of their village.
The results for Oceania were no less impressive with almost 90 percent success of tracing islanders exactly to their island.
"This is a significant improvement compared to the alternative SPA (Spatial Ancestry analysis tool) that placed Oceanians in India," Elhaik noted.
The study appeared in the journal Nature Communications.
 
These type of ancestry has been done without DNA test itself by our rishis ...In "ABHIVATAYE" we do that tracing our ancestry to a rishi
 
Whatever the invention done today was done by our Rishis Yugas earlier. No doubt about it.

Todays Nuclear fission : Yesterdays :As per our grunth one brahmastra or one arrow was sent which split into many many arrows and killed many.

Todays Fertility clinic: Taking the semen from husband or from outsider and fertilised outside with womans ova and injected into her womb : Yestrerdays Rishis give payasam to the king to be given to their wives and they bear the child

Todays Theory of Relativity: Einsteins : Yesterdays All our great warriors transcedenting to other saptha lok and coming back

Todays Rockets : Yesterdays Pushpaka Vimanas

I think Our S/Shri. Sangom, P.J., Ramachander, V.Gane, Krish................................Smt.Renuka, RajiRam........... can give much more examples than me.

Prof.D.V.R.Rajakumar
 
What they are going to achieve by this? what is this use for common people?
Is in anyway help us to become our ancestors matching their capabilities and excel in every field?

We can prevent genetic dis orders but at what cost?

Our Medical expenses, educational expenses are at a staggering rate..unable for the common man to get quality medical treatment or quality education...In what way is it going to help billions of people who are so many suffering from many inherited diseases unless one have 20-30 lakhs for the treatment?

Which insurance is going to sponsor for finding out the gene trait for the treatment?
 
Whatever the invention done today was done by our Rishis Yugas earlier. No doubt about it.

Todays Nuclear fission : Yesterdays :As per our grunth one brahmastra or one arrow was sent which split into many many arrows and killed many.

Todays Fertility clinic: Taking the semen from husband or from outsider and fertilised outside with womans ova and injected into her womb : Yestrerdays Rishis give payasam to the king to be given to their wives and they bear the child

Todays Theory of Relativity: Einsteins : Yesterdays All our great warriors transcedenting to other saptha lok and coming back

Todays Rockets : Yesterdays Pushpaka Vimanas

I think Our S/Shri. Sangom, P.J., Ramachander, V.Gane, Krish................................Smt.Renuka, RajiRam........... can give much more examples than me.

Prof.D.V.R.Rajakumar
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Can't agree with the OP!

What we see in Puranas and epics are descriptions of human imagination which cannot be equated to real discoveries and inventions.

To the best we know basic laws of nature in our universe has not changed (e.g., value of electron mass/charge, gravitational constant etc) probably since our planet or any planet came into existence.

There is no proof available if the laws of nature was sufficiently understood to exploit it by anyone in another time frame. The Rishis were not studying Science for most part but were studying meta-science.
 
regarding the discoveries in ancient india - rv

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Can't agree with the OP!

What we see in Puranas and epics are descriptions of human imagination which cannot be equated to real discoveries and inventions.

This is not correct Shshrudha did real operations not imagination..
varkamikira calculated not with imagination
There are lot others who worked diligently in vana sastra, astronomy, astrology and medicine..these are all not just imagination

There are lot other examples...they have not done any ponniyin selvan kind of thing in purana writing..ithi hasa means it happened in this way...purana means not story but earlier history..history is not based on imagination

This is not told by me...kindly go and read "DEIVATHIN KURAL" by MAHA PERIYAVA
 
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Can't agree with the OP!

What we see in Puranas and epics are descriptions of human imagination which cannot be equated to real discoveries and inventions.

This is not correct Shshrudha did real operations not imagination..
varkamikira calculated not with imagination
There are lot others who worked diligently in vana sastra, astronomy, astrology and medicine..these are all not just imagination

There are lot other examples...they have not done any ponniyin selvan kind of thing in purana writing..ithi hasa means it happened in this way...purana means not story but earlier history..history is not based on imagination

This is not told by me...kindly go and read "DEIVATHIN KURAL" by MAHA PERIYAVA

Ms Veithehi

I have all 7 volumes of Deivatthin Kural and have read them many years ago. I have not stated anything specifically contradictory.

Yes there are specific progress in Science and technologies in ancient times at Indian subcontinent.

Please read the opening post carefully. I was responding to the specific examples cited there.

Also we are not history centric civilization. Puranas are not historic documents and Itihasas are embellished with all kinds of super natural imagination. They have metaphoric significance and that is their value. They are not to be believed literally.

I am against loose claims about advancement in Science in ancient India that actually puts down actual and real accomplishments that are documented and still valuable.
 
The ancients lived in a age where there was no proper documentation. because they never boasted anything about them. If some point of time our earth is torn by meteoric attacks and after that only some potteries are left ..what the next generation think about us..that was happening now about our old days....you can also go through "HINDU MAHA SAMUDRAM" By CHO...If you still believe that what you are saying is correct....i no longer want to argue with you ...This is my view ...that's all.
Whatever research is being done it is done with lot of instruments and billions of money spent...but at that time they had their intuitive and foreseeing mind only with no laboratory equipment.If you still say that our advancement is greater i can't deny you since if some one is struck in one's view no body can change including me
 
I see that we have the classic East vs West argument here. We can agree that people in the East had high thinking, particularly in philosophy and maybe some science. But they were impractical to a fault. Even science was always couched in religion. Why do scientists have to be rishis as well?

Empirical science is solely a western achievement. It makes no sense to downplay laboratories, instruments etc. That is how you make progress. Even now doctors in India prescribe medicine by guesswork while in the west they must use diagnostic tests.

In any case, the East totally missed the industrial revolution. That is why we are still playing catc-up.
 
The ancients lived in a age where there was no proper documentation. because they never boasted anything about them. If some point of time our earth is torn by meteoric attacks and after that only some potteries are left ..what the next generation think about us..that was happening now about our old days....you can also go through "HINDU MAHA SAMUDRAM" By CHO...If you still believe that what you are saying is correct....i no longer want to argue with you ...This is my view ...that's all.
Whatever research is being done it is done with lot of instruments and billions of money spent...but at that time they had their intuitive and foreseeing mind only with no laboratory equipment.If you still say that our advancement is greater i can't deny you since if some one is struck in one's view no body can change including me

No need to argue - you can believe whatever you want. I did not post my views to change anyone


If a claim is made I will question it.

Glib statements citing Puranic stories and descriptions in epics as proof of progress in real science tend to undermine real contributions from Indian subcontinent to the world. Some of these contributions have applications even today.

You are using this forum which is a product of real innovations in communications technologies in the last 20 years from the west. Almost all that touches our lives in today's world had its origin in USA and west.

It is not about east or west but about human achievement regardless of where we live today.
 
Dear Vaithehi,

You can actually have a long long discussion with TKS ji and actually enjoy it..the last time I debated with him about a stanza from the Bhagavad Geeta it lead to the Jananam of a new thread called the Mannangatti Files(its actually in General Discussion..no kidding).

So dont miss out this chance..believe me.


All the TKS fans! Thalaiva!
Dont miss the chance! Thalaiva!


Its really worth it..try it.
 
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Dear Renu,

Whoever writes sensible posts with good knowledge in the subject has fans and followers! :thumb:
 
Dear Renu,

Whoever writes sensible posts with good knowledge in the subject has fans and followers! :thumb:


Dear RR ji,


Some think that I write in almost every post with or without the required knowledge(poor me) ...(that shows I write nonsense too!LOL) but even then I have some faithful followers that follow my posts for all the right and wrong reasons too.


So the final diagnosis is 'showmanship"..just like some actors are very average in acting skills but get more fans than talented actors.. cos they know how to project themselves..so its not always knowledge alone that attracts a crowd or a starts a cult....even nonsense sells!

Some of my threads can be categorized as "nonsense' too but somehow it becomes active..actually when female members start any thread it becomes active..even a thread not answered for a long time and if a female member writes the first reply it becomes active.. so we can blah blah blah anything we will somehow get followers!LOL
 
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