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Kula Deivam

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I am writing to you to kindly request for your help in search of our kula deivam.

My father and I are born in Singapore and my paternal grandfather was from India. My mother is from India. However, we do not know which part of India my grandfather came from and who was his Kula deivam. For many years, we have been trying our very best to determine our kula deivam but we never had the chance to find out. Is there anyway that we can determine who is our Kula Deivam?. Thank you very much for your time and help.
 
I am writing to you to kindly request for your help in search of our kula deivam.

My father and I are born in Singapore and my paternal grandfather was from India. My mother is from India. However, we do not know which part of India my grandfather came from and who was his Kula deivam. For many years, we have been trying our very best to determine our kula deivam but we never had the chance to find out. Is there anyway that we can determine who is our Kula Deivam?. Thank you very much for your time and help.

Usually, people who are in the same position as you are now, will take their horoscope and approach an astrologer to find out which is your kuladeivam. Whether the astrologer's prediction is true or not, only God can tell. Therefore, I will suggest that you think for yourself which hindu god/goddess you like most, and take the nearest temple of that god/goddess as your kuladeivam temple. That will serve the purpose, imo.
 
Dear Sangom,

Thank you so much for your reply. We have consulted about 2-3 top astrologers. However, they are not able to guess who our kula deivam is.
 
I am writing to you to kindly request for your help in search of our kula deivam.

My father and I are born in Singapore and my paternal grandfather was from India. My mother is from India. However, we do not know which part of India my grandfather came from and who was his Kula deivam. For many years, we have been trying our very best to determine our kula deivam but we never had the chance to find out. Is there anyway that we can determine who is our Kula Deivam?. Thank you very much for your time and help.

If you are a vaishnav there is no kula deivam concept in Vaishnavism and so you can adopt any Deity as your personal Godhead.

If you are not a vaishnav try to go and consult an astrologer.
 
Dear Ramesh,

Don't worry too much about Kula Deivam.
I am from your neighbouring country across the causeway.

In Msia many of us are also 1st or 2nd generation Indians but most of us are not too much into Kula Deivam worships.

Out here most Tamilians are Shakti worshippers and you would find mostly Mariamman temples.

As you know Lord Muruga is also one of the famous deities in Msia and I am quite sure S'pore is quite similar.

But do not worry too much about Kula Deivam cos always remember God is God..whatever form of worship you choose eventually its the thought..word and deed that matters.
 
Dear Vaagmi,

Thanks for your comment. It was a Vaishna Brahmin astrologer who told me that our Kula Deiva has been neglected for years and the worship will restore many aspects of life.

Regards
Ramesh
 
Dear Renuka,

Thank you so much for your comments. We have always treated all Gods as one and we never actually made real attempts to differentiate or find a particular God. However, 2 different Brahmin astrologers have specifically identified that the Kula Deva for me and my father have been neglected and many aspects of our life are affected or hindered because we did not made attempt to reestablish our connection. Therefore, we are at least attempting to understand who is our Kula Deiva for us to connect with the energy that pertains to our ancestry. Unfortunately, there is no well known method to do so.
 
The word Kuladevata is derived from two words: Kula, meaning clan and Devata, meaning deity. Thus, it can be said that Kuladevatas are deities which are worshiped by particular clans. The deity can be a male, female, animal or even an object, like a holy stone. Hindu families make a pilgrimage to the Kuladevata or Kuladevi temple to obtain the blessing of the deity after an auspicious occasion such as a wedding. Kuladevatas are worshiped in several sects of Hinduism and Jainism. In the state of Maharashtra, the Kuladevatas are mainly manifestations of Shiva or Shakti such as Khandoba or Bhavani, respectively. In the states of Gujarat and Rajasthan, these deities are generally, the various manifestations of Parvati, the consort of Shiva. She is worshiped by different names by different clans. The Indian King Cobra(Nag) is also a famous Kuladevata. It is known by several names, such as, Nagadevata and Nagabaapji and is worshiped by several Hindu, Jain and Kshatriya clans. Some Kshatriya clans also claim themselves to be "Nagavanshi" or Descendents of the Naga.
In South India, Balaji of Tirupati is one of the main Kuladevatas.
In Kerala, amongst the Nair community, each tharavadu (ancestral family house) has a Kula Devata - often, the devi form of Bhadra, besides Para Devatas of ancestors in tharavadu temples. However, each branch of the family and members are also worship Ishta-Devata depending upon village deities and choices.
In Andhra Pradesh, Goddess Vasavi Kanyakaparameshwari is the Kuladevi for the Arya Vysya community.
In Tamil Nadu, Goddess Kamakshi and Lord Muruga are family deities for many Brahmin Iyers and also to Maravar And Vellalars. Goddess Bhadrakali is the tutelary deity of Nadars. Majority of the Nadar Settlements will have a temple for Goddess Bhadrakali. Goddess Angalaparameshwari for majority of chettiars and vellalars. Lord Narashima for Brahmin Iyengars and also to Naidu. Worship of Kuladevta is very much prominent amongst the Brahmins and Kshatriyas of Goa, Karnataka and Maharashtra, that are the Konkani Saraswats and Daivajna. Most of the Kuldevta temples are found in Goa, Shantadurga, Mahalakshmi, Nagesh, Mangesh, Ramnath to name a few. Kuladevtas play a very pious role in the Konkani Saraswats and Daivajna Brahmins, it can even supplant the role of the Istadevta.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuladevata

On personal level I think it does not matter. When you start to understand the deity is a symbol for God, just as a piece of colored cloth (flag) is a symbol for the country or cause.
 
Since the concept of God in Hinduism is multi-fold, like Primary Gods, avatars of Primary Gods, consorts and friends of avatars etc., Kula Deivam concept might have originated to concentrate on a single God for important occasions.
 
Hi Ramesh,

I believe you might have far distant relatives from the same village your forefathers came from in india. You might want to check with them? They definitely know better. Nevertheless, despite what favourite god we choose in our life, kula deivam is definitely the most important aspect of them all. Most seem to neglect it, since their forefathers were from india but they were born and raised in overseas.

However, as the name "kula deivam" states, it has been protecting your forefathers for more than 4 to 5 generations back. Its main task is to guard its "kulam" which are dependending on it. You can go very far in life but without the help of your kula deviam it still will stand as a weakness for you and as well as your future generations.
 
You may ask your elderly family members or the people hail from your home town. Aged persons would like to talk about such things. Only thing is we should listen to them patiently.
 
Hi,

You can take the help and guidance of Sri. Gopalan in this forum; He helped us in deciding our" Kuladheivam" when we faced a similar issue.

Thanks
anamika
 
there is only one kulam ,manitha kulam.

if you are a believer any God is good enough .

Wise to find a temple or any place of worship nearest to your residence wherever you are.

You will save yourself a lot of hassles.
 
Dear Krish Sir,

Live and let live! Let those who want have faith in 'Kula Deivam' have that faith.

It gives them peace of mind, if prayers are offered to 'Kula Deivam'.

You may be knowing that many brahmins in Kerala have 'adimai kAvu' and pray at the temple regularly.

They are 'adimai' to that Bhagavathi amman. :pray2:
 
My family has a kula deivam -Uppiliappan in kumbakonam.

I pitied my next generation children who were made to go there after marriage instead of honeymoon they were looking forward to.

My daughter in law an iyer had to wear a madisar vaishnava style for visiting the temple.

In retrospect I thought we were a bit cruel to them.lol
 
My family has a kula deivam -Uppiliappan in kumbakonam.

I pitied my next generation children who were made to go there after marriage instead of honeymoon they were looking forward to.

My daughter in law an iyer had to wear a madisar vaishnava style for visiting the temple.

In retrospect I thought we were a bit cruel to them.lol

After marriage the honeymoon is not a 24x7x52x100 affair. There can be time for temple visit if there can be time for eating and sleeping.

Your sympathy is misplaced sympathy.
 
Not at all.Vaagmiji

We have no right to thrust our religeous practices on others.

Let the young find their own God and decide on when , where,and how to worship Him.
 
Hi, Ramesh!

There is a sloka which you can use for the purpose of knowing your kula deivam:

"Om Kulasundaryai vidmahe Kameswaryai deemahi tanno Nithyai prachodayat"

You may chant this min 18x and it is preferable to use coral (pavazha) japa mala for this. Your kula deivam will appear in your dream itself. You need not rely on external agencies for ascertaining your KD. You can also do kumkum archana to the kuthi villaku.

Hope this is useful to you.

,
 
Not at all.Vaagmiji

We have no right to thrust our religeous practices on others.

Let the young find their own God and decide on when , where,and how to worship Him.

I do not look at religion like I look at communism, socialism, marxism, capitalism, vegetarianism or apartheid.

To me Religion is a bundle of values which are necessary and good for a human being to live in this world as a member of a larger society. I would certainly recommend parents to pass on these values to their children.

You may have a different perception and I have nothing more to say about that.
 
Not at all.Vaagmiji

We have no right to thrust our religeous practices on others.

Let the young find their own God and decide on when , where,and how to worship Him.

Why worship? God is not a human being to expect us worshiping and praising the divine.
 
Why worship? God is not a human being to expect us worshiping and praising the divine.

I will have to 'agree' here.

I feel the concept of God needs to be understood and assimilated.
God is not entirely meant to be worshiped to have our wishes fulfilled.

Recently a person related to me came to my home and was very upset that I did not have a prayer room.
Then later when the person saw my personal library of religious books she told me that she is totally shocked to note that a person who does not have a prayer room has such an extensive collection of religious books..she then asked me"but why can't you have a prayer room if you can read so many books"

All I replied her is "after reading most books in my collection I feel God needs to be understood..most of us praise and worship God for some personal gain"

Then she said "may be you do not ask anything cos you already have everything"

I said "No..I do not view life as having or not having..then prayer becomes transaction"

She was still very unhappy that I did not have a prayer room.
 
Normal humanbeings ,Mostly the poor and unenlghtened middle class go temples mostly to seek favours and wishes.

Some also go to pray for cure for physical or mental ailment.

Since most of humanbeings belong to these classes,simplistically I take it majority are seekers of God for specific purposes or wishes to be granted.

I do not know if what the majority do at temples could be called worship. We should take it to be so.
 
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