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Dear Members

Since Raji Madam has started Interesting Articles Folder EXCLUSIVELY for for Bala Sir, and i have trespassed and posted many threads in that folder , Bala Sir is not posting any more threads there.

To make it easy for Bala Sir to contribute more in that folder, i have decided to open a Separate folder for posting My Collections of Interesting information from various sources for the benefit of members.

Hope members will give me support and encouragement by viewing and if possible contributing their Collections from various sources to enrich this Great Forum

Warm Regards

P J

Why do we do Pradakshina or Parikrama?

Pradakshina, meaning and definitions:


Pra as an adjective means very much. Pra can also come as a prefix to verbs and take on the meaning of onward, forward.

Onward to Dakshinam or south is pradakshinam . When one does that , one's right side is facing the deity inside the garbhagraham and the circumambulation is Dakshinacharam or auspicous as recommended by the vedam . Alternative is Vaamacharam and it is taantric in character.

Unaadi sutras break up the word Dakshina into Daksh+inan , meaning as being situated in the South . Dakshina also means sincere, auspicious , dextrous and the Southern sacred fire (Dakshinagni , one of the three Vaidhigagnis ) used in Vedic sacrifices .

Yagyavalkya smruthi defines Pradakshinam as the act of circumambulation ,where one's right side is facing the object or person . Pradakshinam around the fire in Vedic marraiges, or Pradakshinam of a sacred hill like Thirumalai' or deity's garbha graham follows this rule to assure auspiciousness.

Pradakshina or Pradakshinam method:

Pradakshina, meaning circumambulation, consists of walking around in a circle as a form of worship in Hindu temple ceremonies in India. The devotees walk around the sanctum sanctorum, the innermost chamber of the shrine housing the the temple deity. Pradakshina is done in a clockwise direction for an odd rather than for an even number of times. Circumbulatory walking around the shrine, by keeping time, is a common form of Hindu prayer. The pathway made of stone around the shrine is called the pradakshina path.

The Clockwise Rotation or Right is Dakshina (South): Straightforward, honest, impartial, amiable, compliant, submissive and auspicious.

The Counter-clockwise Roration or Left is Vama (North):
Crooked, reverse, contrary and inauspicious.

Pradakshina, a clockwise rotation, around the sacred fire is also a part of the Hindu marriage ceremony. Aarti is an auspicious occasion and so clockwise rotation is made.

Death rituals and other pitru rituals are inauspicious and so apradakshina (counter- clockwise rotation) is made then.



Source: Vidya Rajagopalan

The Ego and the Avatar

The Ego and the Avatar




Emperor Bali, the grandson of Prahlada, was the repository of all great qualities. He was a righteous ruler. There was no want in his realm. On the advice of his guru, Shukracharya, he performed the Vishwajit Yagna and became the ruler of the world. When he wanted to conquer Indraloka, Indra got frightened and sought Vishnu's help to save him. Vishnu came to Bali as a Brahmin lad, Vamana, and sought from him the gift of three feet of land. Bali readily agreed to make the gift despite warnings from his guru that the person to whom he was making the offer was Lord Vishnu Himself. Bali felt that if the Lord of the Universe came to him for a gift, there was no greater honour for him than to give it. Immediately the dwarfish Vamana grew to cosmic proportions. By his first foot, he covered the earth. By his second foot he covered the heavens. He then asked Bali wherefrom he should get the third foot of ground. Bali begged the Lord to place His foot on his head.



While Emperor Bali felt supremely happy that the Lord's sacred foot had been placed on his head, Shukracharya was burning with anger. He was the kind of guru who did not practise what he preached. Hence he had only one eye. Bali was greater than his guru because he practised what he believed in. He was a true devotee of the Lord. He had only one defect: pride in his greatness. The Lord blessed him by destroying his ego.


This ego exists in every human being. As long as it remains, man cannot achieve anything good, nor secure God's grace. Bali shed his ego when he told the Lord that he had no more land to give after the Lord had measured the earth and heaven by two steps and that he was offering himself for the third step. "My ego had warped my mind. Lord, destroy that ego by placing your redeeming foot on my head," he said. The Lord by placing his foot on Bali and pressing him down to the nether world destroyed his ego and thereby sanctified him.


The place where the Lord assumed the Cosmic form (Trivikrama) is known as Siddhashrama. This Siddhashrama is in every human being. The intelligence in man is his spiritual essence. The Vamana avatar is the divine principle in man. The ego arising out of man's consciousness represents Bali. The navel in which Divinity resides is the Siddhashrama. It is called Siddhashrama because it is the place where all aspirations are realised.


The three feet of ground Vamana sought from Bali are: bhuloka, bhuvarloka and suvarloka. Bhuloka means the entire world constituted by the five senses and the five vital airs. Bhuvarloka represents the subtle life force that is present in the atmosphere enveloping the world. It is the world of Prana (Life ­force). Suvarloka is the Atma, the consciousness which permeates everything from the atom to the vastest thing in the Cosmos. These three worlds are not one upon the other. They inter-penetrate each other—the Suvarloka permeates the Bhuvarloka and the latter penetrates the Bhuloka. The three worlds represent symbolically the three bodies of man—the gross body, the mental body and the causal body.


Man must move forward from the gross body to the mental path and from the mental to the Atmic State (Self-realisation). The inner meaning of the Onam celebration is that man must destroy the ego and achieve Self-realisation


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Mahabali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Raji Ram said:

What a way to start a thread, Sir Ji! :clap2:

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Raji Madam

You only gave me this idea and your OP in interesting Articles says Bala Sir has many interesting Articles to share ( as if no other member in this forum has anything interesting Articles to share ), i had to move to a new folder so that Bala Sir can now post all his interesting Articles for the benefit of members.

Raji Ram said:

Dear P J Sir,

One more idea!!

Please start new threads in Music section, since R R advised Dr. Anandhi to start one to compile interesting songs!

because starting many new threads got you the 'Discussion Ender' award, without ending any of the discussions! :tape:

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Raji Madam


Fortunately there is no OP from you in Music Folder undermining others.

Actually Music section is in need of one more folder to put all Music type of Slokams etc.

I will do that shortly, thanks for your Idea!!!

Any other suggestion please.

Which one will you choose?

A group of children were playing near two railway tracks, one still in use while the other disused. Only one child played on the disused track, the rest on the operational track.

The train comes, and you were just beside the track interchange. You could make the train change its course to the disused track and save most of the kids.

However, that would also mean that the lone child playing by the disused track would be sacrificed. Or would you rather let the train go its way?

Let's take a pause to think what kind of decision we could make.............

How do you decide?

What is your decision?

Most people might choose to divert the course of the train,and sacrifice only one child. You might think the same way, I guess.

Exactly, I thought the same way initially because to save most of the children at the expense of only one child was rational decision most people would make, morally and emotionally.

But, have you ever thought that the child choosing to play on the disused track had in fact made the right decision to play at a safe place?

Nevertheless, he had to be sacrificed because of his ignorant friends who chose to play where the danger was.

This kind of dilemma happens around us everyday. In the office, community, in politics and especially in a democratic society, the minority is often sacrificed for the interest of the majority, no matter how foolish or ignorant the majority are, and how farsighted and knowledgeable the minority are.

The child who chose not to play with the rest on the operational track was sidelined. And in the case he was sacrificed, no one would shed a tear
for him.

The friend who forwarded me the story said he would not try to change the course of the train because he believed that the kids playing on the operational track should have known very well that track was still in use and that they should have run away if they heard the train's sirens.

If the train was diverted, that lone child would definitely die because he never thought the train could come over to that track!

Moreover, that track was not in use probably because it was not safe. If the train was diverted to the track, we could put the lives of all passengers on board at stake! And in your attempt to save a few kids by sacrificing one child, you might end up sacrificing hundreds of people to save these few kids.

While we are all aware that life is full of tough decisions that need to be made, we may not realize that hasty decisions may not always be the right one. "Remember that what's right isn't always popular... and what's popular isn't always right."

Everybody makes mistakes; that's why they put erasers on pencils.


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விடிய விடிய கதை கேட்டு சீதைக்கு ராமன் சித்தப்பா என்றாராம்



விடிய விடிய ராமாயணம் கேட்டவனிடம், சீதைக்கு ராமன் யார்? என கேள்வி கேட்டார் உபன்யாசகர். சித்தப்பா என்றாராம் சொற்பொழிவைக் கேட்டவர். வேதனையின் உச்சத்திற்கே போய்விட்டார் உபன்யாசகர். இவ்வளவு நேரம் ராமாயணம் சொல்லியும் பலனில்லையே! இருந்தாலும், மற்றவர்கள் மனது புண்படும் அல்லவா! நிலைமையை இப்படி சமாளித்தார். இவர் சொல்வது உங்களுக்கு புரியவில்லை. சித்தம்+அப்பா என்று அவர் சொல்கிறார். சித்தம் என்றால் மனம். அப்பா என்றால் தலைவன். சீதையின் மனதிற்கு ராமன் தானே தலைவன் என பேசி கைத்தட்டல் வாங்கி விட்டார். எந்த நல்ல விஷயத்தையும் கவனமாகக் கேட்க வேண்டும். கேட்டால் மட்டும் போதாது. அதை வாழ்வில் கடைபிடிக்கவும் வேண்டும்.


அர்ஜுனனுக்கு கீதையைப் போதித்தான் கிருஷ்ணன். கீதை முடிந்ததும், தேரின் மேற்பகுதியில் ஏறி அமர்ந்து கொண்டான். இந்த நேரத்தில், அர்ஜுனனின் மகன் அபிமன்யு கொல்லப்பட்டான். அர்ஜுனனுக்கு சோகம் தாங்கவில்லை. கண்ணீர் வழிந்தது. சிறிது நேரத்தில், அவன் மீது மேலிருந்து சில சொட்டு தண்ணீர் சூடாக விழுந்தது. அர்ஜுனன் ஏறிட்டுப் பார்த்தான். கிருஷ்ணனின் கண்களில் இருந்து விழுந்த கண்ணீர் தன் மீது பட்டதை அறிந்து, என் மகன் இறப்புக்காக நான் அழுகிறேன். நீ ஏனப்பா அழுகிறாய்? என்று கேட்டான். இவ்வளவு நேரம், வாழ்வின் நிலையாமை பற்றி உனக்கு கீதை சொன்னேனே! அதை நினைத்து கண்ணீர் வடிக்கிறேன், என்றானாம் கிருஷ்ணன்.


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Why do we worship the Kalasha ?

Why do we worship the Kalasha ?





First of all what is a kalasha? A brass, mud or copper pot is filled with water. Mango leaves are placed in the mouth of the pot and a coconut is placed over it. A red or white thread is tied around its neck or sometimes all around it in a intricate diamond-shaped pattern. The pot may be decorated wit designs. Such a pot is known as a kalasha.

When the pot is filled with water or rice, it is known as purnakumbha representing the inert body which when filled with the divine life force gains the power to do all the wonderful things that makes life what it is.

A kalasha is placed with due rituals on all-important occasions like the traditional house warming (grhapravesa), wedding, daily worship etc. It is placed near the entrance as a sign of welcome. It is also used in a traditional manner while receiving holy personages. Why do we worship the kalasha? Before the creation came into being, Lord Vishnu was reclining on His snake-bed in the milky ocean From His navel emerged a lotus from which appeared Lord Brahma, the creator, who thereafter created this world.

The water in the kalasha symbolizes the primordial water from which the entire creation emerged. It is the giver of life to all and has the potential of creating innumerable names and forms, the inert objects and the sentient beings and all that is auspicious in the world from the energy behind the universe. The leaves and coconut represent creation.

The thread represents the love that "binds" all in creation. The kalasha is therefore considered auspicious and worshipped. The waters from all the holy rivers, the knowledge of all the Vedas and the blessings of all the deities are invoked in the kalasha and its water is thereafter used for all the rituals, including the abhisheka.

The consecration (kumbhaabhisheka) of a temple is done in a grand manner with elaborate rituals including the pouring of one or more kalashas of holy water on the top of the temple. When the asuras and devas churned the milky ocean, the Lord appeared bearing the pot of nectar, which blessed one with everlasting life.

Thus the kalasha also symbolizes immortality. Men of wisdom are full and complete as they identify with the infinite Truth (poornatvam). They brim with joy and love and respect all that is auspicious. We greet them with a purnakumbha ("full pot") acknowledging their greatness and as a sign of respectful and reverential welcome, with a "full heart".


Why do we worship the kalasha?



Picture source: Chandrasekaran Bakatavasalu

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[FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வயதாகி[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சாப்பிட[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]முடியாத[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நிலை[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வரும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]போது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar], [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசும்பால்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மட்டுமே[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நமக்கு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கைகொடுக்கிறது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]உயிர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வெளியேறத்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]துடிக்கும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]போது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar], [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]குழந்தைகளெல்லாம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வாயில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பால்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஊற்றுகிறார்கள்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இறந்த[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பிறகு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சமாதியிலும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பால்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஊற்றுகிறார்கள்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இப்படி[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பிறப்பு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]முதல்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இறப்புக்குப்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பிறகும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நம்மை[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வளர்த்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஆளாக்கிய[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தாயான[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுவுக்கு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நன்றிக்கடன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]செலுத்தும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நோக்கத்திலேயே[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மாட்டுப்பொங்கல்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இடப்படுகிறது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அதனால்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தான்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அதனை[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar] "[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கோமாதா[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]'' [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்று[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அழைக்கிறோம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT]

[FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுவுக்காக[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வாழ்ந்த[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சித்தர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]:-[/FONT]

[FONT=TSCu_Paranar]திருவாவடுதுறைக்குத்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தெற்கே[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]உள்ள[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சாத்தனூர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்னும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஊரில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மூலன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்னும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இடையன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வாழ்ந்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வந்தான்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தான்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வளர்த்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வந்த[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுக்கள்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மீது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மிகுந்த[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அன்பு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கொண்டிருந்தான்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுக்களும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மூலன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மீது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அன்பைப்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பொழிந்தன[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஒருநாள்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]காட்டில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மேய்ச்சலுக்கு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சென்றபோது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar], [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஒரு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பாம்பு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மூலனைத்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தீண்டியது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அவன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இறந்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]விட்டான்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மூலனை[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]விட்டுப்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பிரிய[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மனமில்லாத[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுக்களின்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கண்களில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கண்ணீர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பெருகியது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அவனைச்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சுற்றிச்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சுற்றி[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வந்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கதறி[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நின்றன[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வான்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வழியே[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சென்று[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கொண்டிருந்த[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சிவயோகியான[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சித்தர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஒருவர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இக்காட்சியைக்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கண்டு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுக்கள்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மீது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இரக்கம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கொண்டார்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுக்களின்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கண்ணீரைத்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]துடைக்க[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]எண்ணம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கொண்டார்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. "[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பரகாயப்பிரவேசம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]" [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்னும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கூடுவிட்டுக்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கூடுபாயும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]முறையில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மூலனின்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]உடம்பில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]புகுந்தார்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அதுவரை[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மூலனாக[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இருந்த[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அந்த[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]உடல்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar], [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சித்தரின்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]புனித[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சேர்க்கையால்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar] "[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]திருமூலர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]" [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்ற[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பெயர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பெற்றது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]

அவர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]புகழ்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பெற்ற[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சித்தர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஆனார்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மீது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அன்புகாட்டிய[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மூலன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]உயிர்த்தெழுந்ததைக்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கண்ட[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுக்கள்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மகிழ்ச்சியில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]திளைத்தன[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]காலையிலிருந்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசும்புல்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]உண்ணாமல்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வாடி[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நின்ற[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுக்கூட்டங்களை[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]திருமூலர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நீர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அருந்தச்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]செய்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar], [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]வயிறார[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]மேயச்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]செய்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஊர்போய்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சேர்ந்தார்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இவர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]எழுதிய[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பாடல்கள்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar] "[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]திருமந்திரம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]" [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்று[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]போற்றப்படுகிறது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar].[/FONT]


[FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுக்குலத்திற்கே[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பெருமை[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]:-[/FONT]

[FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அப்பர்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தேவாரத்தில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar] "[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஆவினுக்கு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அருங்கலம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அரன்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அஞ்சாடுதல்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]" [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்று[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பாடுகிறார்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. "[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஆ[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]" [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்றால்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசு[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]; "[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அஞ்சாடுதல்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]" [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்றால்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar] "[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பஞ்சகவ்யத்தால்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]அபிஷேகம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]செய்தல்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]". [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பஞ்சகவ்யம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்பது[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுவிடமிருந்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]உண்டாகும்[/FONT]

• [FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பால்[/FONT]
• [FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தயிர்[/FONT]
• [FONT=TSCu_Paranar]நெய்[/FONT]
• [FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கோமியம் [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]([/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுவின்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஜலம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar])[/FONT]
• [FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கோமயம் [/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]([/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பசுஞ்சாணம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]) [/FONT]

[FONT=TSCu_Paranar]என்னும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]ஐந்து[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பொருள்களும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]குறிப்பிட்ட[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]விகிதாச்சாரத்தில்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]சேர்ந்த[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]கலவையே[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பஞ்சகவ்யம்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]எனப்படும்[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar]. [/FONT]
[FONT=TSCu_Paranar]இதுதவிர[/FONT][FONT=TSCu_Paranar], [/FONT]

• [FONT=TSCu_Paranar]பாலபிஷேகம்[/FONT]
• [FONT=TSCu_Paranar]தயிர்[/FONT]

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பசு லட்சுமியின் அம்சம். தர்ம தேவதையின் அடையாளம். பால் தருவதால் கோமாதா என்று தாயாகப் போற்றுவர். வீட்டில் லட்சுமி கடாட்சம் நிலைக்கவும், தர்மம் தழைக்கவும் பசுவை வீட்டுக்குள் அழைத்துச் செல்கிறார்கள்.

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ஒரு விளக்கின் உறுப்புகள் தெய்வங்களைக் க&

ஒரு விளக்கின் உறுப்புகள் தெய்வங்களைக் குறிப்பவை

1. தாமரை போன்ற ஆசனம்-பிரம்மா,

2. நெடிய தண்டு- விஷ்ணு,
3. நெய்-அகல்- ருத்திரன்,
4.திரியின்முனைகள்- மகேஸ்வரன்,
5. நுனி-சதாசிவன்,
6. நெய்-நாத தத்துவம்,
7. திரி-விந்து தத்துவம்,
8. சுடர்-திருமகள்,
9. பிழம்பு- கலைமகள்,
10. ஜோதி-பிரம்மம்

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Sacred Trees in India

Sacred Trees in India

by Ramandeep Kaur




Indians have been worshipping trees since time immemorial and this is done as a matter of gratitude because we know that life cannot exists without trees. In Indian culture trees are believed to have conscious like humans so they can feel pain as well as happiness like us. So trees and their products are part of our rituals and ceremonies. With passage of time different trees like neem (Azadirachta indica), banyan (Ficus bengalensis), bel (Aegle marmelos) and many more have been added to the religious sanctity. Even various Gods and Goddess have been associated with different trees like bel, rudraksa (seeds of Elaeccarpus) are close to Lord Shiva, peepal to Lord Visnu, mango (Mangifera indica) to Lord Hanuman, asoka to Kamadeva, etc. Here is a brief introduction to some of the most sacred trees in India

Peepal Tree – The most worshipped tree in India which in Sanskrit is known as “Ashvattha”. Peepal tree is also known as Bodhi tree or tree of enlightenment as it is believed that Buddha attained enlightenment under peepal tree. This is the reason why Peepal tree is sacred to Buddhist. Also the present Kali Yuga began with the death of Lord Krishna that had happened under this tree only. In Hinduism it is believed that roots of Peepal tree are Brahma, the trunk is Vishnu and the leaves are Shiva. A red thread or cloth is tied around Peepal tree for worship so cutting down Peepal tree is considered inauspicious.


Banyan Tree – It is believed that three gods – Lord Vishnu, Lord Shiva and Lord Brahma are symbolized by the Banyan tree. Mostly the childless couple worship banyan tree and it is supposed not to be cut. In most of the Hindu cultures, this tree represents life and fertility.


Bel Tree – Bel is another very auspicious and sacred tree in India that is supposed to be associated with Lord Shiva. To please Lord Shiva, leaves of Bel tree are offered to Him and thus known as bilva. Bel leaves are trifoliate or tripatra and it is believed that it symbolizes three work of Lord – the preservation, creation and destruction as well as three eyes of the Lord. So during the worship of Lord Shiva offering Bel leaves is compulsory.


Ashoka Tree – Ashoka is one of the most sacred and well-known trees of India. In Sanskrit, Ashoka means without grief or the one who gives no grief. As per Hinduism, Kama Deva (Lord of Love) is associated with Ashoka tree. Even Sita Devi was kept by Ravana in Asoka Vatika.


Mango Tree – Mango tree is another very sacred tree in India whose leaves, wood as well as fruits are used in many rituals. To mark any auspicious occasion, string made from mango leaves is hung on the entrance. Mango leaves are kept in the pot with coconut during Kalash Sathapana. Blossoms of Mango tree are offered to Goddess Saraswati on Basant Panchami. Mango tree is also very auspicious for Buddhists as it is believed that Lord Buddha had created a huge mango tree at Shravasti from the seed.


Neem Tree – Many medical benefits are associated with neem tree and because of this it is highly respected in India. It supposed to be an expression of Goddess Durga. In Bengal, the tree is believed to be a place of living of ‘Sitala’ the great Pox-mother who can cause and cure disease. To cure pox, neem leaves are rubbed on the body and by offering a prayer to her. It is also believed that smoke produced by burning neem leaves keep the evil spirits away from you and your home. Mahatma Gandhi was a great believer in neem.


Banana Tree – It is really a very auspicious tree in India. Its every part is used in performing one or the other ritual. Like welcoming gates are made by using trunk, leaves are used to distribute Prasad, fruit is offered to Lord Vishnu and Goddess Lakshmi. Banana tree is also worshipped in Kadali Vrata. Banana tree with flowers and fruits is worshipped for the welfare of the family.


Coconut Tree – Coconut tree, especially in South India is one of the most sacred trees and must for a family to plant it at home. Coconut is used while performing all the Hindu rituals and offered in all kinds of pujas. Even before any puja, sthapana with water filled pot, mango leaves and coconut is done. It actually symbolizes Goddess Lakshmi. It is considered that three black marks on coconut shell are the three eyes of Lord Shiva.


Sandal wood Tree – For worshipping Gods, paste and oil of sandal wood tree are used. Sandal wood imparts fragrance to everything even to the axe that is used to cut this tree. So anything that is just excellent is known as chandana. Holy places are purified with chandan.


Kadamb Tree – It is the tree of Lord Krishna as he used to play his flute under this tree. His childhood activities like jumping in Yamuna, dancing with gopis, climbing on the trees were all done on or around Kadamb tree. So flowers of Kadamb tree are offered at various temples.



Sacred Trees in India

Radha Madhava Kalyanam

Radha Madhava Kalyanam



Though the paddhathis may vary slightly according to the school they follow, Kalyanotsavams in Bhajan Padhathi are being performed by many a bhagavathas. Meenakshi Sundareswarar Kalyanam (ancient), Valli Kalyanam, Seetha Kalyanam, Rukmini Kalyaanam are the ones that were performed in ancient days. Now-a-days, Ganapathi Kalyanam, Dharma Shaatha Kalyanam (wrongly called Ayyappa Kalyanam) are being celebrated. These were added by present day bhagavathas and were not prevalent in ancient times. Radha Kalyanam is being performed widely, though there is an argument that it is Gandharva Vivaham and no marriage took place between Radha and Krishna. The argument is that Radha was a Gopi and Krishna did not marry a Gopi. All Gopis considered Krishna as their husband and Krishna never married any of them. Krishna married only Rukmini and Sathyabhama. Sathyabhama Kalyanam is not being held probably because she was a Deva Kanyaka and not a Bhaktha like Rukmini, who longed for Krishna and then got married through her divine love. Radha Kalyanam is widely accepted and is being conducted any time in a year, whereas Seetha Kalyanham is performed during Ramanavami, Rukmini Kalyanam during Gokulashtami and Meenakshi Sundareswara Kalyanam during Dhanur Maasam.



Here we deal with the padhathi , meaning, philosophical essence, importance, significance of Radha Kalyanam. While the other Kalyanams were described in various puranaas, Radha Kalyanam is not described in any Puranam except Brahma Vaivartha Puranam, which describes the scene in Golokam, which is said to be placed above Satya Lokam. Here Lord Madhava and Radha exist as the Purusha and Sakthi in original status (not in any specific physical existence). This existence is said to be the total blissful state, which is explained as the status of Brahman. This Brahma Swaroopam (because they are together and not separate) is playing into the world in the form of Krishna and Radha. For this there is a story stated in the Brahma Vaivartha Puranam.



Once when a bhaktha was discussing various aspects of bhakthi, existence, birth and death with Madhava, Radha got upset and cursed the bhaktha. The bhaktha got enraged and cursed Radha devi thus: You got upset like a human being, may you go to the world and take birth as a human being. When Radha realised her mistake, she felt aggrieved for she cannot stand separation from Lord Madhava and asked for ‘sapa vimochanam'. Lord Madhava consoled her, saying that he would take birth as Krishna to Devaki and Vasudeva and would be reared up by Yasoda and Nandagopa in Brindavan and she can take birth in Brindavan and enjoy his presence always as a maid to Krishna. She took birth (before the incarnation of Krishna) as the child of Maharaja and came to Brindavan and took care of the child Krishna as a Gopi.



A question arises that if she took birth in the world before Krishna, she must be elder to him. Yes, as Radha and Krishna but not as Madhava and Radha. It is like in a drama you act like a young boy. Do you lose your age? It is only for the play. Secondly, it is not Radha Krishna Kalyanam, but Radha Madhava Kalyanam, about which we will discuss further and hence the age does not come in the way. Radha has lost memories of her original status/existence whilst Krishna always was in the knowledge of his original existence as Madhava because he is an incarnation. So much for the preface.


Sri Radhakalyanam

Radha Kalyanam or Seetha Kalyanam:

Radha Kalyanam or Seetha Kalyanam:


Radha Kalyanam or Seetha Kalyanam is, in the physical sense, a wedding. Our saints’ view is, after the individual’s end, he or she culminates into Brahmam, i.e., God, wherefrom this emergence took place. This theory is accepted by Zoroastrianism, Judaism and Islam.

This fusion into immortality is celebrated as Kalyanam. Jayadeva, who is said to be an incarnation of Veda Vyasa, visualized this phenomena and put together a poetic composition called Gita Govindam about five hundred years ago. Mr. Edwin Arnold has translated it in English. This symbolic function is an outcome of that composition.


Sri Sita Rama Kalyanam

Why Women over 11- and 50 are not allowed to Visit SABARIMALA

Why Women over 11- and 50 are not allowed to Visit SABARIMALA


One of the main reasons cited to justify this traditional stand is the duration of period of penance. Tradition insists on 41-day severe penance before undertaking the pilgrimage.

The fact that it is womanly impossible to stick on to a strict routine laid down against a conservative Hindu background, especially the stigma attached to menstruation, is cited as one reason for restricting women's entry.

Presiding priest of Sabarimala Tantri Kandararu Rajeevararu points out the exact reason: ``Millions of devotees throng Sabarimala during the pilgrimage. And presence of women among them can lead to law and order problems as not everybody, however ardent devotee he is, need not behave decently with women.''The concept about Ayyappa as installed at Sabarimala is that of a brahmachari in penance. The lore also says that he has vowed to remain a bachelor. People cite these reasons also to justify the ban on women's entry.


AYYAPPA AND ILAYATHAMPURATTY KALLU:

The Ilayathampuratty Kallu, a small stone statue hidden by time in a niche on a wayside rock, has nothing significant to catch the attention of devotees streaming to Pamba on the Laha Road. For, not many realise that this statue believed to be that of a princess of the Pandalam Palace stands as a warning post to women against undertaking a pilgrimage to Sabarimala.The story goes that a young princess of the Pandalam family insisted on accompanying the King on the first pilgrimage to Sabarimala even as other female members of the family stopped their journey at Kakkad, near Laha.However, the princes couldn't continue her journey from Laha due to unexpected menstrual problems. She informed the King about it and said she would wait for them in the hut of a Kani tribal. (According to Hindu beliefs, women shouldn't take part in any religious functions during menstruation.)And on his return the King was shocked to see that the princess had turned into a granite statue. The incident reminded him of Ayyappa's words that none without a 41-day penance should visit the hill shrine.






Muslim women are not allowed in almost all Mosques.Christiuans do not allow women to be priests generally.I have never heard of a female incarnation of Budha.



If women should be allowed in Sabarimala,there should be female priests in the Catholic church,there should be female mullahs in the Mosques,Polygamy should be accepted as a barbarian thing in Muslim families,and a Dalailama should be voted to power and so should be the Pope.



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P.J. said:

If women should be allowed in Sabarimala,there should be female priests in the Catholic church,there should be female mullahs in the Mosques,Polygamy should be accepted as a barbarian thing in Muslim families,and a Dalailama should be voted to power and so should be the Pope.



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Dear PJ sir,

What happens in other religions are not my concern cos we Hindus are supposed to use our intellect more..so rituals and rites that make no sense should be objected!

10 Iconic Quotes About India That Will Fill You With Pride

10 Iconic Quotes About India That Will Fill You With Pride

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Vibishan's Previous Birth

Vibishan's Previous Birth





Vibishan Surrendering to Lord Sri Rama : Picture source; Google

Vibishan was a prince called satyavrat in his previous birth. He was called so as he always talked truth and walked in path of dharma. Vibhishana's sister Surpanaka was his gurus daughter in his previous birth and her name in previous birth is not known. She fell in love with Satyavrat. Satyavrat treated her like a sister and hence rejected her love. She felt insulted and became angry and vowed to revenge. She lodged a complaint in kings darbar saying that Satyavrat had a sexual union with her by promising her to marry and now refusing to marry her.

Nobody believed the innocence of the prince Satyavrat and thought that he lied. As because Satyavrat is not agreeing to marry gurus daughter, he was sentenced to death the day after.

Sitting in prison, satyavrat cried to heaven saying that there is no justice and dharma in the world. If there was any dharma in the world, he would not be sentenced to death and dharma could have proved victorious.

Then Lord Anand appeared before him and told him that because of his deeds in previous births, he will die now but in the next life he will be born in rakshasha race and his gurus daughter will take birth as his sister. This will happen so as he said to the king's darbar that he treated his guru's daughter as his sister.

That is why Satyavrat was born in rakshasha clan as Vibishan along with surpanaka as his sister. Vibhishana, like in this previous birth always walked in the path of dharma and started seeing Lord narayan's avatar in Sri Ram. Vibhishanas was ultimately blessed immortality by Lord Narayana. Surpanaka was punished by Lord Anand for her bad deeds.

Vibhishan is also known as Bibhishan and is a character in the epic Ramayana. He was the younger brother of the demon king Ravana of Lanka. Though a half-demon himself, Vibhishana was of a noble character and advised Ravana, who kidnapped and abducted Sita, to return her to her husband Rama orderly. When his brother did not listen to his advice, Vibhishana joined Rama's army. Later, and when Rama defeated Ravana, Vibhishana was crowned as the king of Lanka.

The Soul transmigrates from one birth to another with all its virtues of good and bad in nature that one has acquired during several lives in the past. It appears that Satyavrat truly treated his guru's daughter as his sister through thoughts and actions and hence she became his sister in his next life as Vibhishan. Satyavrat as Vibhishana also got the company of Lord Sriram as a result of his speaking truth always and following the right path of Dharma in the same way as Lord Srirama. Intensity of our thoughts and actions in the present life are likely to determine the location of our next life for improving and perfecting the same virtues.

REBIRTH STORIES FROM EPIC VALMIKI RAMAYANA

I dont know why but I feel Vibhishana is the ultimate traitor!

Lakshamana is extolled and praised for being a devoted brother to Lord Rama so why should Vibhshana be praised when he was a traitor to his brother??

Rama is always praised as the law abiding obedient son but Bharata did not obey Kaikeyi so why is Bharata praised for his devotion to Rama when he disobeyed his mother's wishes to ascend the throne?

If mothers words can be over ruled..that too when it was a legitimate boon given by Dasharatha... why was not this same logic applied when Kunti told the Pandavas to share what they had brought home(when she had no idea they had brought home Draupadi) Why didnt the Pandavas over rule Kunti cos Polyandry was not really 100% in vogue too.

Doesnt make sense right??Sometimes mothers can be over ruled but sometimes they cant??

Why this inconsistency in so called Dharma?

Coming back to Vibhishana...if he was so obsessed with Dharma he could have just remained Neutral and toldl Ravana that he is not taking sides and left for tapasya or something.

I dont like the idea of crossing over and joining "enemy" camps in the so called name of Dharma.

That way I love Karna..he did not care for Mama or Machans! He was grateful to Duryodhana even though he very well knew Duryodahana was on the wrong side of Dharma.

Even though Karna died being on the Adharmic Duryodhana side at least he did not bite the hand that fed him unlike Vibhishana who betrayed his brother and got a kingdom!

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The Entire Epic of Ramayana is about Dharma, Righteousness;

It is also about the consequences of joining with evil forces.


Vibeeshan saw the ethical side of supporting the victim of his brother's haughty deed, while Prince Karna saw the secular side of gratitude to a King who supported him at a critical time and made him King of a territory.

Karna’s life is a lesson about the consequences of joining evil forces.


Karna was a frustrated man, as he was not recognized as a great warrior, due to his inability to trace his parents. Duriodana accepted him as his friend, more for his talents to fight against Arjuna, than because Duriyodana was generous. Karna got his recognition from Duriyodana, and hence stayed with him. His decision has a selfish motive.


Vibhishana's nature with Ravana was not like a brother. He acted not only as a brother but also, a teacher, a guide.

Vibhishan was righteous. Being righteous does not make one a traitor.
Betrayal is called a trust break. Ravana never trusted Vibhishana or Kumbakarna. Vibhishana never did harm to his brother Ravana.

Vibhishan went to Rama only after all his advices to Ravana failed to have any impact.


Vibhishana was against the kidnapping and abduction of Sita. He advised his elder brother Ravana to return Sita to her husband Rama. He was exiled by his own brother Ravana for telling good advice


In the Sri Lankan Buddhist tradition, Vibhishana was one of the Gods of the Four Warrants (satara varam deviyo) until the Kotte period.

Vibhishana had a sattvic (pure) mind and a sattvic heart. From his early childhood, he spent all his time meditating on the name of the Lord. Eventually, Brahma appeared and offered him any boon he wanted. Vibhishana, said that the only thing he wanted was to have his mind fixed at the feet of the Lord as pure as lotus leaves (charan kamal). He prayed that he should be given the strength by which he would always be at the feet of the Lord, and that he would receive the darshan (holy sight) of Lord Vishnu. This prayer was fulfilled, and he was able to give up all his wealth and family, and join Rama, who was Avatar (God incarnate).

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Valmiki Ramayana - Sundara Kanda
Vibhishana: Facts, Discussion Forum, and Encyclopedia Article
Vibhishana Saranagati - The Hindu

Previous Birth of Karna

Previous Birth of Karna





The legend of Krishna and Arjuna start way before the Mahabharata.

It has been said that the duo were the reincarnation of Nara-Narayana. Nara and Narayana were two inseparable sages who were considered to be a part avataara of Vishnu. They were twins born to Dharma (son of Brahma) and Murti (Daughter of Daksha). They took avataras on earth for the welfare of mankind. The sages defeated a demon called Sahasrakavacha (Demon with a thousand armors). By the way it was Sahasrakavacha was reborn as Karna in the Mahabharata Era.

Let’s get into the story of the Demon Sahasrakavacha for minute for I know how confusing it can get. Karna, in his previous birth was known as King Dambhodabhava who by his misdeeds ended up being called a demon.

Demons as usual will always want invincibility which they knew was not possible. So they end up asking for all the impossible, which at any cost will have a loop hole that will pave the way to their destruction. So was the case with Sahasrakavacha. He meditated for years and paid austerities to Lord Surya and asked for boon as thus: that he should naturally have thousand armors attached to his body. To kill him one would have to meditate for 1,000 years and fight with him for yet another 1,000 years, by which he would lose just an armor at a time. Thus, he would have to lose all his armors before he could be killed. In any case there was also a clause that stated that if anyone breaks an armor he or she would die, so once Nara had to be brought back to life by Narayana.


Around the same time yet another demon was creating havoc all over the world in the name of Hiranyakasypu. To destroy that demon as we all know Lord took the avataara of Narasimha. After killing Hiranyakashipu Lord Narasimha’s head took the form of Narayana and the body took the form of Nara as a greater plan of vanquishing the thousand armored Demon Sahasrakavacha.

Nara and Narayana took turns for fighting and meditating; while one mediated the other fought the duel with the Demon, thus destroyed all, but one armor.

The Demon knew his end was near and he pleaded to the Surya for help, who intervened and helped him. Lord Surya had promised Sahasrakavacha protection and refused to hand him over to Nara and Narayana. At this time, there was Pralaya on Earth due to the change of the Yuga because of which the Demon escapes death.But by his yogic power the all pervading Lord Narayana had declared that he would incarnate as Krishna and the Demon was to be destroyed by Nara in the Dwapara Yuga who would be born as Arjuna, and the wicked Dambhodabhava alias Sahasrakavacha as Karna.

In Dwapar Yuga, an “amsa” of Lord Surya and Dambhodabhava was reborn as Karna with Kavacha. It is probably why Karna was said to have had a split personality.





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Previous Birth of Karna

The legend of Krishna and Arjuna start way before the Mahabharata.

It has been said that the duo were the reincarnation of Nara-Narayana. Nara and Narayana were two inseparable sages who were considered to be a part avataara of Vishnu. They were twins born to Dharma (son of Brahma) and Murti (Daughter of Daksha). They took avataras on earth for the welfare of mankind. The sages defeated a demon called Sahasrakavacha (Demon with a thousand armors). By the way it was Sahasrakavacha was reborn as Karna in the Mahabharata Era.

Let’s get into the story of the Demon Sahasrakavacha for minute for I know how confusing it can get. Karna, in his previous birth was known as King Dambhodabhava who by his misdeeds ended up being called a demon.

Demons as usual will always want invincibility which they knew was not possible. So they end up asking for all the impossible, which at any cost will have a loop hole that will pave the way to their destruction. So was the case with Sahasrakavacha. He meditated for years and paid austerities to Lord Surya and asked for boon as thus: that he should naturally have thousand armors attached to his body. To kill him one would have to meditate for 1,000 years and fight with him for yet another 1,000 years, by which he would lose just an armor at a time. Thus, he would have to lose all his armors before he could be killed. In any case there was also a clause that stated that if anyone breaks an armor he or she would die, so once Nara had to be brought back to life by Narayana.


Around the same time yet another demon was creating havoc all over the world in the name of Hiranyakasypu. To destroy that demon as we all know Lord took the avataara of Narasimha. After killing Hiranyakashipu Lord Narasimha’s head took the form of Narayana and the body took the form of Nara as a greater plan of vanquishing the thousand armored Demon Sahasrakavacha.

Nara and Narayana took turns for fighting and meditating; while one mediated the other fought the duel with the Demon, thus destroyed all, but one armor.

The Demon knew his end was near and he pleaded to the Surya for help, who intervened and helped him. Lord Surya had promised Sahasrakavacha protection and refused to hand him over to Nara and Narayana. At this time, there was Pralaya on Earth due to the change of the Yuga because of which the Demon escapes death.But by his yogic power the all pervading Lord Narayana had declared that he would incarnate as Krishna and the Demon was to be destroyed by Nara in the Dwapara Yuga who would be born as Arjuna, and the wicked Dambhodabhava alias Sahasrakavacha as Karna.

In Dwapar Yuga, an “amsa” of Lord Surya and Dambhodabhava was reborn as Karna with Kavacha. It is probably why Karna was said to have had a split personality.





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But somehow this so called Demon in previous life born as Karna displayed qualities that were even praised by Lord Krishna.

Karna was well above any of the Pandavas.

All the Pandavas knew were pride and prejudice..and kept on ridiculing Karna as Suta Putra and were very proud of the fact that they were Kshatriyas but didnt they know they were technically not born from Pandu?

Give me a break...I somehow feel these Pandavas were not as good as they were made to be.

Yudhsithira is highly over rated..kept talking about Dharma mannangatti etc and even answered to the Yaksha that Caste in not by birth but by Guna ..but he still kept nagging Karna calling him Suta Putra!

If he felt caste is not by birth he should have known that Karna displayed Kshatriya qualities and why still call him Suta Putra(a mixed caste of Kshatriya father and Brahmin mother who usually take up the profession of driving chariots)

So its all hypocrisy and total disrespect on the part of the Pandavas.