A controversial Thirumoolar verse

[gk2468]

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From our Well-known member Visalakshmi Ramani's Blog on Thirumoolar's Thirumanthiram I see this possibly controversial verse

#908. திருக்கூத்தின் பயன்கள்

சொல்லு மொரு கூட்டில் புக்குச் சுகிக்கலாம்

நல்ல மடவார் நயத்துடனே வரும்

சொல்லிலும் பாசச் சுடர்ப்பாம்பு நீங்கிடும்

சொல்லும் திருக்கூத்தின் சூக்குமம் தானே.

திருவைந்தெழுத்துத் தியானத்தால் மற்றொரு உடலில் புகுந்து சுகமுறலாம். அழகியர் இத்தகையவரை நயந்து அணுகுவர். இவர் சொல்லலும் சொல்லால் பிறரின் பந்த பாசம் நீங்கி விடும். இவை அனைத்தும் திருக் கூத்தினால் விளையும் பயன்கள் ஆகும்.

The first sentence of this verse means a person Meditating on The Panchakshara Mantra can attain a Siddhi and Enter another living body and Enjoy their enjoyment /bliss. In "Noaendhamizh" it is also called "Koodu-vittu-Koodu payaradhu". Koodu refers to a body. For older generation people, you can reminisce movies with the theme where some bad element enters/places his soul seven mountains + Seven seas away for safe keeping! Modern folks, can relate to "Wargs" from Game of Thrones...
Now, You are a Jivatma with sentience. Isn't that about the Outrageous violation of Privacy / Freedom ever - EVEN if the entering soul is a great Siddha? What gives ANYONE right to enter another's body and enjoy ? Adhi-Shankara entered a "dead" king's body to know carnal pleasures. Agreed. The King was dead.
In your dream state you don't have Freedom. We can relax the rule a bit and say the Siddhas can enter your body during dream state - that is contentious as well.
In deep sleep state it is possibly(?) acceptable.
What do you think?

OOlalala Happy I passed your test

Now, kindly tell me what you understand by someone attaining Siddhi and how it is within the reach of humanity and science. Please give specific examples. Do you have first hand experience witnessing such events? How does it square away with laws of nature? No feigning ignorance, please!

Feel that many of your questions may be tied to your basic beliefs about siddhi, death, so called near-death experience etc.

Will respond to your questions after understanding your beliefs or possibly after learning facts from your response

Be accurate and specific - no Imaginations !!

 

[agopal]

Very Good Sir.... So based on your birth there is only so much freedom you have. Can’t escape your inner Self, Or Consciousness.
Let’s be more Legal now;

Rule: “Other, Jivatmas they require your permission to access you unless you are borne with their Consciousness or their Upper Tree..”

This seems very confusing...in order to understand this, you ought to research what a Mind-born son is.
There are lot of references to that..mind-born sons of Brahma were just body less Conscious entities..
You can think of them as Point particles but Conscious. There were some Asuras as well who were borne that way.
The idea is some part of Your consciousness can split to form Child-Consciousness whether or not that is integrated with a Sperm or Ova... and can gain existence of its own!
That sentience from your Jivatma all the way to the top actually forms a Tree kind of like a Binary tree with the Supreme being the root.
At Ajna Chakra you realize that...You will find your Parent Consciousness that you are split off -of.
The most interesting aspect of that and possibly still controversial is that your immediate top parent Consciousness Need not be your Physical parent’s Consciousness ! Think about that...
And the Consciousness that you are made of could be Conjoined from Light and Dark Trees ....
I will let that be digested for now....

 

[gk2468]

Namasthe
Sir,
This controversy and replies to me reflect only one thing.People are more interested in discussing only matters which ordinary and uneducated
could not understand with all quotes and explanation.where as there are more practical problems from the point of view of many downtrodden people irrespective caste, creed and religion.These may not be solved wholly or overnight but could be discussed and communicated between various members to try and do something about it.eg.many BPL families are finding it toget even one full meal per day,many of their children still finding it difficult to get even a basic education etc..So is it necessary to discuss topics like above one ,instead of trying to understand them if so interested with proper or some basics about our Hindu Dharma?
gk2468

 

[agopal]

Namasthe
Sir,
This controversy and replies to me reflect only one thing.People are more interested in discussing only matters which ordinary and uneducated
could not understand with all quotes and explanation.where as there are more practical problems from the point of view of many downtrodden people irrespective caste, creed and religion.These may not be solved wholly or overnight but could be discussed and communicated between various members to try and do something about it.eg.many BPL families are finding it toget even one full meal per day,many of their children still finding it difficult to get even a basic education etc..So is it necessary to discuss topics like above one ,instead of trying to understand them if so interested with proper or some basics about our Hindu Dharma?
gk2468

Good point. Tell me when exactly can we talk about

Namasthe
Sir,
This controversy and replies to me reflect only one thing.People are more interested in discussing only matters which ordinary and uneducated
could not understand with all quotes and explanation.where as there are more practical problems from the point of view of many downtrodden people irrespective caste, creed and religion.These may not be solved wholly or overnight but could be discussed and communicated between various members to try and do something about it.eg.many BPL families are finding it toget even one full meal per day,many of their children still finding it difficult to get even a basic education etc..So is it necessary to discuss topics like above one ,instead of trying to understand them if so interested with proper or some basics about our Hindu Dharma?
gk2468

Yes Sir, There are practical problems...Every one has them.
Irrespective of Poor or Rich. Even for Modi as well as for a street Peddler...Me and You...The size and intensity varies...

Give a situation you are in we don't need Hindu Dharma. Let's take Tamil Cinema that every one understands and அதிவீர ராம பாண்டியன்'s A Smal Pandiya king from Deep South Tamilnadu's வெற்றி வேற்கை

1) Did you lose morale? Trust, Belief, etc. Not with just spoken words.
I mean, Did you "really" believe? How will the மரத்த வெச்சவன் know without inspecting your dark side?
Whether you while away time in useless chat, porn or lie drunk? Lie and cheat effortlessly etc...
If Children are sleeping empty stomach what were the parents doing? They were the ones who gave rise to the kids . Isn't it their responsibility to bring them up?
மரத்த வெச்சவன்
தண்ணி ஊத்துவான்
மனசப் பார்த்து தான்
வாழ்வ மாத்துவான்
ஏ மனமே லங்காதே
வீணாக வருந்தாதே
பாரங்கள் எல்லாமே
படைத்தவன் எவனோ
அவனே சுமப்பான்...


2) Do not Associate Downtrodden with being Good
வெற்றி வேற்கை - 15
வ‌றிஞ‌ர்க்கு அழ‌கு வ‌றுமையில் செம்மை

விள‌க்க‌ம்
வ‌றுமையில் இருப்ப‌வ‌ரின் அழ‌கானாது, அந்த‌ நிலைமையிலும் ஒழுக்க‌மாக‌ வாழ்வ‌தில் வெளிப்ப‌டும்

If you are getting one rupee per day. Are you saving 50 paise? , Doing Dharma of 5 paise? etc.
Did you try to be good at-least?

I have bathed with 2 mugs of water for 5 days, studied without electricity, cleaned shits, walked miles just to get a stupid signature, Traveled on top of buses and trains, walked in "Sakkadai" in waters...as well helped a known poor teacher of mine carry and set up book shops in a Platform. I have seen him teach me as well as spend hours talking about politics without concentrating on Selling books. Yes, Learnt good things and noted the bad things to avoid. I have seen his son lose hope and try to commit suicide even though he was an Auto driver earning more than him. I have seen reckless actions of a poor kid leading to his death as well. I have seen Educated people die in beaches. I have bathed buffalos, Spent time on my Grandfather's Paddy fields, I have seen a fellow passenger dying in front of me in Pallavan bus. I have also seen Street peddlers bilking people with helpless Snakes. Not many were middle class when we grew-up..we had Ration rice as well with worms. Watered Pazhaya Soru as well. I have also seen my classmate give up his Medical seat to join an Ashram. I have seen my friend go mad. And I have been a Friend to a mad person. Oh, Yes I have seen the poor, the middle and the Rich, the needy, the greedy..., the pious, the atheist, the diseased. I have seen the most philosophical man I ever met - a telugu old laborer- 4000 ft below ground! Please read Verses of Vemana in Telugu....Which is an awesome introduction to Truth.

And I Have been fortunate to see More...Which many would not have...
I have seen real Yogis walking naked for days.. Believing in Him. They have nothing. What do you mean food? They walk naked for days without food... They Believe. Where is your belief - at least to think that Things will improve?

With All this experience the Discussion such as above I think is SUPER IMPORTANT for you to realize something more. Something beyond the "assumed-to-be" pitiful human lives. Lucky you are not Blind, or Deaf. Lucky you are not born a cockroach. Are you thankful? IS your problem today right now more than that of a rat beneath your house - constantly fearful? Can't even speak, can come out only at night, eat whatever crap you throw at it?
IS your problem or the Rat's problem today worse than an earthworm? Which can't even move? come out only when it rains.
ARE you thankful today? How many times were you thankful in your entire lives? How many times? Think...
ARE you thankful for the Sun that shines, for the Earth that Spins, For the Water you drink? IS there an acknowledgement? Acknowledgement that they exist for EVERYONE? The Poor, the Needy, The Rat AND the Earthworm! We are humans the most advanced species - for a reason. For you to use ALL your faculty. I mean Use your body and Mind, Intelligence, Compassion, Heart and Desire. An earthworm would be thankful for being a Rat - not human- just a rat. Know from where you had evolved. If you think of that , realize that at-least once, your destiny will change. Do you know the Countless entities that gave-up their freedom for Life to Evolve? These are the questions that EVERY Sentient entity ideally needs to think about. Sama Veda Talks about that. Are you thanking your body for correctly producing the enzymes on time? Digest our food? Why did you assume they happen without Sentience? Do they ask your permission? They make you survive. Our biology gives us that Great ability to reason about these. Talk about these. So you Should NOT STOP such Conversations. These are much more fundamental.

You can't just talk about Problems. Every one knows about them. Where is YOUR solution proposal? What did YOU bring to the Table? And Yes, I mean, Personally YOU. You can ask me of the same thing. What did I do? And I'm happy to share something. Yes, you said Education. We have adopted a Village in India for Educating all the children there. I have a Trust worthy friend who grew up with charity money like that to whom I give whatever I can. Can you trust Any Charity anymore?
Over the years, I realized the super extreme importance of Silent and anonymous Humility filled ACTION than meaningless conversations...Which as you know Tambrahms are infamous for - the infamous "Mylapore Mama"

You CANNOT cheat your own in-riding Self. And Karma Phalam appropriately Solidifies in Truth.
Yes, I wish I help ALL the poor. But did the poor help the Rat or the Earthworm?
Thanks for letting me say things that I wanted to say...I should be thankful to you too

 

[gk2468]

Good day sir.Thank you for your reply.I feel quite happy about your contributions by means of which you are trying to contribute something to the poor.Same time I also felt sorry for all hardship you have gone through your life.Having said that I would like to put my final message,beyond which I do not like to receive any further reply from you regarding this topic ,because I feel it is wate of time to convince or make one understand who refuse to accept it digest others opinion..
1.from your message what I infer is that you are more interested in presenting yourself in lime light of the public by writing some topic,which you neither interested to accept (i have gone through messages in this topic),not try to understand about what others say.
2.It is really unfortunate people like you use such a wonderful,useful and informative platform like this to present yourself in a high esteem,.
3.To me your message is of more on boasing side of your little acquired knowledge in the sea of Hindu Dharma and presenting yourself to be the only one to suffer the most in life.
4.I really do not understand what you have achieved by creating such a message?(I should definitely thank you at this point.Because of you I have come to acquired some little knowledge about THIRUMOOLAR).Afterall if you see thing wearing black glass everything's will look black only.
5.No doubt every human being is a seperate individuals that all cannot see things same way as others.Naturally whether what you felt right or wrong,you have no right to talk about something others would have more knowledge and understood the topic you supposed to claim to know better.
6.well unless you know thoroughly about life history of THIRUMOOLAR and subsequent blessings and grace he had in his life of LORD SIVA ,the result of whicH WE ARE HAVING TODAY,Tirumandiram. atleast could have stopped answering to the replies you received on this topic at some point of time.
7.i feel it is high time more and more Hindus should know that the more people of other religion and parts of the world started to release the value and principles of Hindu Dharma better than Hindu themselves. May be you are one of them.
8.I feel you have not understood my message in proper way.Rather took it as if you are questioned about the thing you feel you are the authority,that challenging me to come for talk etc.Your message full of boasting and I am sorry bragging than the realism.
9.what I said that having accepted as member by site which should be used to discuss, communicate
about something more useful not only to general public but also to you and me and many,so as to result in some good thing to happen for human race .10.finally I am happy that I am a cause and reason for somebody to burst out his feelings.
11.I am sorry if by any means if l wounded your feels.
gk 2468

 

[a-TB]

Browsing (and not reading) this re-emergent thread is like watching someone savoring a Bats-cockroach--sambar LOL. It started with confusion and some baseless assumptions and then our friend bid good-bye only to re-emerge with more confusion. Regardless, welcome back. May you thrive here!

 

[gk2468]

I am extremely sorry say that there are more people like the one who started this w...under...full topic for d.is.cuss..ion.

 

[agopal]

Good day sir.Thank you for your reply.I feel quite happy about your contributions by means of which you are trying to contribute something to the poor.Same time I also felt sorry for all hardship you have gone through your life.Having said that I would like to put my final message,beyond which I do not like to receive any further reply from you regarding this topic ,because I feel it is wate of time to convince or make one understand who refuse to accept it digest others opinion..
1.from your message what I infer is that you are more interested in presenting yourself in lime light of the public by writing some topic,which you neither interested to accept (i have gone through messages in this topic),not try to understand about what others say.
2.It is really unfortunate people like you use such a wonderful,useful and informative platform like this to present yourself in a high esteem,.
3.To me your message is of more on boasing side of your little acquired knowledge in the sea of Hindu Dharma and presenting yourself to be the only one to suffer the most in life.
4.I really do not understand what you have achieved by creating such a message?(I should definitely thank you at this point.Because of you I have come to acquired some little knowledge about THIRUMOOLAR).Afterall if you see thing wearing black glass everything's will look black only.
5.No doubt every human being is a seperate individuals that all cannot see things same way as others.Naturally whether what you felt right or wrong,you have no right to talk about something others would have more knowledge and understood the topic you supposed to claim to know better.
6.well unless you know thoroughly about life history of THIRUMOOLAR and subsequent blessings and grace he had in his life of LORD SIVA ,the result of whicH WE ARE HAVING TODAY,Tirumandiram. atleast could have stopped answering to the replies you received on this topic at some point of time.
7.i feel it is high time more and more Hindus should know that the more people of other religion and parts of the world started to release the value and principles of Hindu Dharma better than Hindu themselves. May be you are one of them.
8.I feel you have not understood my message in proper way.Rather took it as if you are questioned about the thing you feel you are the authority,that challenging me to come for talk etc.Your message full of boasting and I am sorry bragging than the realism.
9.what I said that having accepted as member by site which should be used to discuss, communicate
about something more useful not only to general public but also to you and me and many,so as to result in some good thing to happen for human race .10.finally I am happy that I am a cause and reason for somebody to burst out his feelings.
11.I am sorry if by any means if l wounded your feels.
gk 2468

Awesome!

Good.. har.D. feelings?
One thing is certain On which you got wrong. I enjoyed my life! Bad times and Good.
Yes, I felt sad sometimes, But recovered as well
Please do recover...as well.

4. Don’t people wear Cool Like this all the time? Why do you think You created an account? I wore mine! Yes and when I wear ‘ it’ things will be black...Even when I look at myself, the boasting, bragging etc., I will be black as well...
But then that is not reality ...Correct?
Ask Tamil brahmins Forum to provide me a delete button and I will delete this post in its entirely and possibly all others. Things all will be all peaceful with Bats and Sambhar and Rats and Cockroach ...And why do you think they didn’t provide that? They wear the Cool black glass too ? Popularity craving...possibly? Saravanan sir? But then you learnt About Thirumanthiram...-and Thirumoolar! Because I boasted! . Please now also read about பாம்பாட்டி சித்தர் தத்துவம்...
5. But I have no Right, No one can be fully Right! but I do have Left! பாம்பின் கால் பாம்பறியும் mmmm...இடது பாம்பா?வலது பாம்பா?

6. Yes, That’s when I worked on my glasses zzz ...
Search this up...
“ When the days are cold
And the cards all fold
And the saints we see
Are all made of gold
When your dreams all fail
And the ones we hail
Are the worst of all
And the blood's run stale
I want to hide the truth
I want to shelter you
But with the beast inside
There's nowhere we can hide
No matter what we breed
We still are made of greed
This is my kingdom come
This is my kingdom come“

“ All the small things...True Care Truth Brings”

Rtam cha satyam chAbhidhdAt (1), tapaso adhyajAyata (2)

Truth was born and the Law of Truth (1), From the kindled fire of Energy of Consciousness. Rig Veda 10.190.1

satyam brihat rtam ugram, dikshA tapo brahma yajnah, prithivi dhArayanti ||

The Truth (satyam), the Vast (brihat) and the Truth-in-movement (rtam), strength (ugram), initiation, askesis, mantra (brahma) and Yajna- These uphold the Earth. Atharva Veda 12.1.1

Adios...

 

[agopal]

Before, I take off my glasses... one last lO-Ok at Truth...

“Jagath Karanam Achyutam”
“..”
“Prakruteeth Purushath Param”

Ishana Sarva-vidyanam
Ishvara Sarva-bhutanam
Brahma-dhipati
Brahma-nodhipati
Brahma Shivomeh Astu-Sada.ShivOm...

Tatpuru-shaya vidmahi
Vak-vishudhaya dhimahi
Tanna Shiva Pracho-dayat...

Adios.. Amigos...
அடியோsee ... glasses remove Ed...

 

[gk2468]

Good day
Time and again you are trying to establish yourself as if you are the one and only one to know everything in this world.so let it be.unfortunately you are also supported by some one like Tg and went to the extreme of advising me to thrive etc in this website.fine every individual have their own opinion,which I start taking seriously(unless it is useful and understood in a properway) I will loose my piece.
One thing I found out that the universal rule holds good for everybody.You can wake upa person really sleeping but not one who pretends to be.
FInally however you may be feeling and claiming to be great absolutely no problem ,but why the hell you drag the platform on which you are allowed to write all this in reply to my message,in this issue.This clearly indicate only one thing,unless you get tired on your own to stop ARGUING ON THIS TOPIC,,you are going to continue like THIS ENDLESSLY.
Remember simply I given my opinion as a reply for something you started.If you or matter of fact anybody who do not like this arguement,can simply withdraw from this.Instead do not continue arguing, writing ,leading to nothing without any conclusion except un ending arguments and replies only.
Remember there are so many in the world,who are more well versed in the subject,and more are suffering silently,do great charities in a silent way ,unlike people like you who go on writing using every opportunities including using useful and informative websites like this to prove their achievements greatness .So please I am bored of.so better stop reply at least to my message whether you like it or not to end this endless reply answer etc..
HOWEVER ONE THING IS CERTAIN.I AM NOT GOING TO BE REPLYING ANY FURTHER ON THIS TOPIC,IRRESPECTIVE OF YOUR REPLY OR ANYONE TOTHIS MESSAGEAS I FEEL IN A GATHERING OF LEARNED THOSE KEEP QUITE IS ALSO CONSIDERED TO BE LEARNED TILL HE OPENS HIS MOUTH.I DO NOT MIND TO BE A FOOL AMONG LEARNED LIKE YOU.AFTER ALL IGNORANCE IS BLISS

 

[agopal]

Good day
Time and again you are trying to establish yourself as if you are the one and only one to know everything in this world.so let it be.unfortunately you are also supported by some one like Tg and went to the extreme of advising me to thrive etc in this website.fine every individual have their own opinion,which I start taking seriously(unless it is useful and understood in a properway) I will loose my piece.
One thing I found out that the universal rule holds good for everybody.You can wake upa person really sleeping but not one who pretends to be.
FInally however you may be feeling and claiming to be great absolutely no problem ,but why the hell you drag the platform on which you are allowed to write all this in reply to my message,in this issue.This clearly indicate only one thing,unless you get tired on your own to stop ARGUING ON THIS TOPIC,,you are going to continue like THIS ENDLESSLY.
Remember simply I given my opinion as a reply for something you started.If you or matter of fact anybody who do not like this arguement,can simply withdraw from this.Instead do not continue arguing, writing ,leading to nothing without any conclusion except un ending arguments and replies only.
Remember there are so many in the world,who are more well versed in the subject,and more are suffering silently,do great charities in a silent way ,unlike people like you who go on writing using every opportunities including using useful and informative websites like this to prove their achievements greatness .So please I am bored of.so better stop reply at least to my message whether you like it or not to end this endless reply answer etc..
HOWEVER ONE THING IS CERTAIN.I AM NOT GOING TO BE REPLYING ANY FURTHER ON THIS TOPIC,IRRESPECTIVE OF YOUR REPLY OR ANYONE TOTHIS MESSAGEAS I FEEL IN A GATHERING OF LEARNED THOSE KEEP QUITE IS ALSO CONSIDERED TO BE LEARNED TILL HE OPENS HIS MOUTH.I DO NOT MIND TO BE A FOOL AMONG LEARNED LIKE YOU.AFTER ALL IGNORANCE IS BLISS

 

[agopal]

Tavad akasamkalpo yavacchabdah pravartate ,
Nihsabdam tatparam Brahma
paramatmeti giyete

 

[ganantharaman]

Thank you all for your contributions to Ram !

நானதேது? நீயதேது? நடுவில் நின்றது ஏதடா?
கோனதேது? குருவதேது? கூறிடும் குலாமரே!
ஆனதேது? அழிவதேது? அப்புறத்தில் அப்புறம்
ஈனதேது? ராமராம ராமஎன்ற நாமமே!

 

[thebigthinkg]

From our Well-known member Visalakshmi Ramani's Blog on Thirumoolar's Thirumanthiram I see this possibly controversial verse

#908. திருக்கூத்தின் பயன்கள்

சொல்லு மொரு கூட்டில் புக்குச் சுகிக்கலாம்

நல்ல மடவார் நயத்துடனே வரும்

சொல்லிலும் பாசச் சுடர்ப்பாம்பு நீங்கிடும்

சொல்லும் திருக்கூத்தின் சூக்குமம் தானே.

திருவைந்தெழுத்துத் தியானத்தால் மற்றொரு உடலில் புகுந்து சுகமுறலாம். அழகியர் இத்தகையவரை நயந்து அணுகுவர். இவர் சொல்லலும் சொல்லால் பிறரின் பந்த பாசம் நீங்கி விடும். இவை அனைத்தும் திருக் கூத்தினால் விளையும் பயன்கள் ஆகும்.

The first sentence of this verse means a person Meditating on The Panchakshara Mantra can attain a Siddhi and Enter another living body and Enjoy their enjoyment /bliss. In "Noaendhamizh" it is also called "Koodu-vittu-Koodu payaradhu". Koodu refers to a body. For older generation people, you can reminisce movies with the theme where some bad element enters/places his soul seven mountains + Seven seas away for safe keeping! Modern folks, can relate to "Wargs" from Game of Thrones...
Now, You are a Jivatma with sentience. Isn't that about the Outrageous violation of Privacy / Freedom ever - EVEN if the entering soul is a great Siddha? What gives ANYONE right to enter another's body and enjoy ? Adhi-Shankara entered a "dead" king's body to know carnal pleasures. Agreed. The King was dead.
In your dream state you don't have Freedom. We can relax the rule a bit and say the Siddhas can enter your body during dream state - that is contentious as well.
In deep sleep state it is possibly(?) acceptable.
What do you think?

சொல்லு மொரு கூட்டில் புக்குச் சுகிக்கலாம்
நல்ல மடவார் நயத்துடனே வரும்
சொல்லிலும் பாசச் சுடர்ப்பாம்பு நீங்கிடும்
சொல்லும் திருக்கூத்தின் சூக்குமம் தானே.

திருமந்திரம் ஒரு அத்வைத சாரம் ஆகும். சாட்சியான சிவனோடு ஒன்றி பற்றற்ற பெருவாழ்வு வாழும் முறையை விளக்கும் மாமந்திரம். ஆனாலும் அதன் பொருள் கொள்ளல் அவ்வாறே இருப்பதில்லை.

இப்பாடலின் உண்மை பொருள் என்ன..?

திருமந்திரம் சொல்லும் ஒரு கூட்டில் (எவ்வுயிரும்) புகுந்து சுகிக்கலாம். நல்ல பெண்கள் நயத்துடனே சொல்லுகின்ற நயமான சொல்லை காட்டிலும், திருமந்திரத்தின் சொல் பாசமெனும் பாம்பை நம்முள்ளிருந்து நீக்கிவிடும். இதுவே சூட்சுமம்.

அதாவது திருமந்திரம் சொல்லும் கூட்டில் எந்த உயிர் புகுந்தாலும் அதனின்று பாசம் எனும் பாம்பு நீங்கிவிடுவதால், அந்த கூடு சுகம் பெறும்,

பாசம் எனும் பாம்பு நச்சினால் நம் கூடு உண்மை சுகம் பெற முடியாமல் போகிறது. அழகான பெண்கள் தங்கள் நயமான சொல்லினால் பலரின் பாசத்தை விரட்டும் சக்தி பெற்றிருக்கிறார்கள். ஆனால் அவர்களின் சொல்லினிலும் திருமந்திர சொல், பாசம் எனும் பாம்பை விரட்டும் சக்தி பெற்றது.

இதுவே சூட்சுமம்

இப்படிப்பட்ட எளிய பாடலை எப்படியெல்லாம் திரித்து பிரித்து பொருள் கொள்கிறோம் நாம்..?

 

[ganantharaman]

சொல்லு மொரு கூட்டில் புக்குச் சுகிக்கலாம்
நல்ல மடவார் நயத்துடனே வரும்
சொல்லிலும் பாசச் சுடர்ப்பாம்பு நீங்கிடும்
சொல்லும் திருக்கூத்தின் சூக்குமம் தானே.

திருமந்திரம் ஒரு அத்வைத சாரம் ஆகும். சாட்சியான சிவனோடு ஒன்றி பற்றற்ற பெருவாழ்வு வாழும் முறையை விளக்கும் மாமந்திரம். ஆனாலும் அதன் பொருள் கொள்ளல் அவ்வாறே இருப்பதில்லை.

இப்பாடலின் உண்மை பொருள் என்ன..?

திருமந்திரம் சொல்லும் ஒரு கூட்டில் (எவ்வுயிரும்) புகுந்து சுகிக்கலாம். நல்ல பெண்கள் நயத்துடனே சொல்லுகின்ற நயமான சொல்லை காட்டிலும், திருமந்திரத்தின் சொல் பாசமெனும் பாம்பை நம்முள்ளிருந்து நீக்கிவிடும். இதுவே சூட்சுமம்.

அதாவது திருமந்திரம் சொல்லும் கூட்டில் எந்த உயிர் புகுந்தாலும் அதனின்று பாசம் எனும் பாம்பு நீங்கிவிடுவதால், அந்த கூடு சுகம் பெறும்,

பாசம் எனும் பாம்பு நச்சினால் நம் கூடு உண்மை சுகம் பெற முடியாமல் போகிறது. அழகான பெண்கள் தங்கள் நயமான சொல்லினால் பலரின் பாசத்தை விரட்டும் சக்தி பெற்றிருக்கிறார்கள். ஆனால் அவர்களின் சொல்லினிலும் திருமந்திர சொல், பாசம் எனும் பாம்பை விரட்டும் சக்தி பெற்றது.

இதுவே சூட்சுமம்

இப்படிப்பட்ட எளிய பாடலை எப்படியெல்லாம் திரித்து பிரித்து பொருள் கொள்கிறோம் நாம்..?

Thank you! I'm happy