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Affinity for English over Tamil

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This has reference to the 'Neeya Naana' program on Vijay TV aired on Suday the 7th July 2013.

The topic of discussion was "Why do school children prefer English for communication over Tamil?".

A kaleidoscope of viewpoints were expressed.

On the one side were school children and on the other side were their parents.

From the children's said a variety of opinions were shared viz 'It gives a sense of pride', 'If we speak Tamil amidst an English speaking crowd, we are perceived as illiterates, as uneducated', 'Speaking English makes us feel superior', 'When our relatives children speak from abroad, they use English and we need to match them in communication, hence we prefer English', 'We are fined if we speak in a vernacular language in schools' etc.

From the parent' side also various opinions were share viz 'I could not speak in English, I wanted at least my child to speak in English', 'I feel proud when my daughter speaks in English' etc.

One of the girls said English is unique in that there are expression like 'Oh', 'Wow' etc which are absent in Tamil. However when one of the panelists and also Gopinath, challenged her to recite an English 'kavidhai' she was dumbstruck.

One of the girl spoke in American accent English and she was awarded a prize. Another girl who said she loves both English and Tamil and she also walked away with an award.

Centuries of imperial rule has enslaved our mind and blinded our mind from reality. Our minds have been conditioned and programmed to conceive that command over English is a matter of superiority. We need to understand that language is for communication and every language has her own beauty, literature etc. English is just another language like any other for communication. Just because once upon a time the sun never set in British empire, does not make English superior. It is indeed a blessing in disguise that we Indians were ruled by the British since the English language is a valued legacy.

One of the panelists said that such an attitude towards English, a hype and hooplah about English, is mostly found only among Tamilians which is true to some extent.

We, parents, need to understand this fundamental truth and refrain from imposing an inappropriate attitude towards English, and for that matter towards any langauge.

It is good to develop communication skills in English, build fluency, accurate accent, pronunciation etc but does benefit attaching pride. Skills in communication is required in any language. No language is superior or inferior to another. We need to impress upon our children that effective communication skills in any language is necessary.

English is required to learn subjects other than vernaculars and to communicate with foreigners. Though English is understood in most parts of the world, it is not used in many countries. We need to understand that only those countries colonized by Britain use English for studies and learning. After we cannot use English to communicate with vendors on the street in our country.

Let us instill in the minds of our children an appropriate attitude towards English and any other language. Let us teach our children to learn to appreciate every language.
 
dear sir,
When people FEEL proud by claiming that
they do not know Tamil/ Hindi/ Sanskrit etc
I feel sympathetic and sad at heart. :(
Is NOT knowing one's own mother tongue
something to be proud about??? :wacko:
 
Well we all seem to prefer English over Tamil since we are typing in English!LOL

Frankly speaking most of us speak English as a mode of communication and not as a pride.

Out here I speak Malay mainly and English ranks No 2 in my usage.

I still like to use Tamil when I fight!

It is power packed.
 
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Well we all seem to prefer English over Tamil since we are typing in English!LOL

Frankly speaking most of us speak English as a mode of communication and not as a pride.

Out here I speak Malay mainly and English ranks No 2 in my usage.

I still like to use Tamil when I fight!

It is power packed.


Why not we read some of your tamil power pack...!!??


TVK
 
Well we all seem to prefer English over Tamil since we are typing in English!LOL

Frankly speaking most of us speak English as a mode of communication and not as a pride.

Out here I speak Malay mainly and English ranks No 2 in my usage.

I still like to use Tamil when I fight!

It is power packed.

dear Renu,
We must never scold in the local language since
the locals can scold us back in the local language
much better, backed by years of experience! :rolleyes:
So a foreign tongue helps to confuse them
about the intensity of the scolding! :rant:
 
dear Renu,
We must never scold in the local language since
the locals can scold us back in the local language
much better, backed by years of experience! :rolleyes:
So a foreign tongue helps to confuse them
about the intensity of the scolding! :rant:


Dear VR ji,

Very true..so now I swear in Sanskrit.

No one here will understand and even if they feel its Sanskrit they will think I am reciting some mantras.
 
It is really power packed since it is borrowed from the Tamil movies.
With Dr. Renu's permission, I will give one sample dialogue in Tanglish.
"mavane nee gaalidaa!" :boxing:

Dear VR ji,


These days all the hero needs to tell to villain is:


Hero :Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Villain: Aaaaiiiiiiiii

Hero: Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiii

Villain: Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiiii


Such simple dialogue and it conveys the meaning that both are warning each other ..
"mavane nee gaalidaa!"
 
Its very amusing to see many parents and kids so proud of English and so ashamed of Tamil. Quite an eye opener. In this regard I can safely say Sri Lankan Tamils here are extremely proud of Tamil, and teach their kids Tamil from small. I guess it makes sense to be very defensive of your language when you've come through a war where they almost killed your people because of language amongs other things.
 
Dear VR ji,


These days all the hero needs to tell to villain is:


Hero :Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Villain: Aaaaiiiiiiiii

Hero: Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiii

Villain: Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiiii


Such simple dialogue and it conveys the meaning that both are warning each other ..
"mavane nee gaalidaa!"

Dear Renu,

First it was pages and pages of dialogues - delivered at one stretch and if possible in one breath!!!

Then it became paragraphs. Later it dwindled down to sentences and then words.

WOW now the mono syllable has replaced everything. :clap2:

I was not aware of the latest development since it is a long time

since I watched any movie in which humans act. :rolleyes:

Animation is so much better!!! :)
 
Dear VR ji,


These days all the hero needs to tell to villain is:


Hero :Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Villain: Aaaaiiiiiiiii

Hero: Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiii

Villain: Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiiii


Such simple dialogue and it conveys the meaning that both are warning each other ..
"mavane nee gaalidaa!"

One honest and genuine doubt!!!

How come both the hero and the villain are

the "mavane" for each other???
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Tamil Words for English

Tamil Names.webpTamil.webp

How many of us are able to talk in these words?

For those who are Tamilians, It is important to know Tamil to speak, write and also know about the richness of this oldest Language; But for job, English is a must, and to move around in India one should also know Hindi.

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Picture Source: தமிழால் இணைவோம்
 
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What I feel is that it is Tamilians and perhaps, now, Malayalis also, who have this OCD about English learning. In the north, people invariably learn their mother tongue and when they converse in that only very necessary English words come in. On the other hand, I find most TN people, including celebrities in various fields, are sort of addicted to "vanthu, vanthu,... ad infinitum" (வந்து, வந்து, வந்து....). They use this word practically before & after each word. Even in English only some people are fluent.

At the other extreme, we have the Tamil fanatics whose Tamil equivalents are ridiculous. Examples can be seen in PJ's post #15 above. I was particularly struck by சப்புனீர் for soup!

Tamil Nadu kids should be trained to be fluent in Tamil and/or English and, at the same time, such extreme Tamilization like சப்புனீர் should be avoided.
 
i think, every parent, wants the child, to do well, and will do anything in their power, to give the little one a headstart.

let me tell you my story, which is typical of a lower middle class parents of the 1950s. we lived in a portion of a house, in triplicane; i went to a tamil medium olai perai school, going to 4th class, with a view to going to hindu high school from 6th onwards. all planned thus.

we then moved to mandaveli, and my new neighbours, kids my age, all spoke english. a new world was open to my parents, as all neighbours went to convent schools and spoke english. why not our son?

i took 2 classes down, ie from 4h class to 2nd standard, and made my way up the english language curriculum. did not quite realize how well my english developed, till a couple of years later, in a gathering, i could hold on my own, with my richer cousins, all of whom went to english medium schools.

i have always that my excellent schooling gave me an advantage over many, in expressing myself, which is a clear necessity when in search of jobs or opportunities in life.

ofcourse, i have friends who went to school in tamil or hindi medium, and who have done better than me. but there are also others, who rue the fact, that their vernacular education, deprived them of many opportunities, simply due to the fact that in the english language fascinated country that is india, and with a balkanization, where every 200 miles we have a different local language, atleast in the south, west and east, english is a door opener.

frankly, i do not know which is better. a good vernacular grounding or a mediocre english education. i tend to opt for good schooling, no matter what the medium of education may be.

it is laughable today, that my school fees, increased by only one rupee per month..ie i joined 2nd standard, and paid 2 rupees, and when i finished 11th, it was 11 rupees per month. for what was then among the best schools in madras. i completed high school in 1966 december.
 
"Enkku Tamil koncham koncham theryum!"

is the most popular line mouthed by the

the lovers of languages other than Tamil.

Dear VR ji,


That way we have to commend actress Namitha..being a Nortie she has learnt to speak Tamil rather fluently and even Simran when she came to Ms'a to host a dance show she was speaking in fairly fluent Tamil.

You know once I saw a Tamil movie where a Tamil girl was trying to act as if she does not know Tamil and Sathyaraj slapped her on her face and the girl screamed Aiyooo Amma!

So you see when in danger..everyone screams their mother tongue.

Anyway the trend is changing here too in Msia for the good.

But out here now if one does not know their mother tongue..it is considered a disgrace..so everyone tries to use their mother tongue as often as possible.
 
I went to school where English was taught in Tamil. When I started PUC I just didn't understand much of what my teachers were saying because they were speaking in English -- one exception was of course the Tamil class. My cousins from the North spoke in Hindi and English and they put down Tamil in every way possible, especially as a symbol of the Dravidians of the DMK kind. To them anything Tamil was uncivilized. I often felt inferior because I didn't know Hindi at all and couldn't hold a conversation in English like my cousins could.

Today, I feel sorry for my cousins, they have no knowledge of the treasures of Tamil literature -- they don 't know what they don't know. This would be no big deal except that they are Tamils.
 
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These days all the hero needs to tell to villain is:


Hero :Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Villain: Aaaaiiiiiiiii

Hero: Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiii

Villain: Aaaaiiiiiiiiiiiii .........
I think it is E........ yyyyyy (ஏ.........ய்ய்ய்ய்ய்ய்), Renu, invariably followed by 'vAdAAAA!'
 
Dear Renu,

Here is Sarathkumar and Rithika in the Tamil movie 'ஏய்'.

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Sarath with Namitha in the same movie!!

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Source: ஏய் - தமிழ் திரைப்படம்


Dear RR ji,

I like Sarath Kumar...he was Mr India once before.

He has a very beautiful daughter from his 1st marriage who is a trained ballet and salsa dancer.

I like his fight scenes where he will hit one guy and 10 guys go flying and a hologram of a Lion will appear as he walks.

Kya Isthyle Yaar??

Over all he has a very good personality and handsome too.
 
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