Anna is on to 8th day of fasting

[vgane]

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Why are the political parties silent on Anna Hazare fast for getting the Lokpal bill passed by Parliament..Though the Lokpal bill has been tabled in Parliament, not sure if it will get passed with Samajwadi party opposing the bill...

Anna's fast enters eight day, condition deteriorates

 

[sangom]

Lokpal or Superlokpal or even if they bring the god who burned bhasmasur or the one that came in such terrifying form and took out the entrails of hiranyakasipu, corruption will continue in India as long as religions have the sway over people as of now.

 

[auh]

... corruption will continue in India as long as religions have the sway over people as of now.

Extending this logic, can we say that there are no corrupt atheists? Would it be fair?

 

[vgane]

Extending this logic, can we say that there are no corrupt atheists? Would it be fair?

Communist China is the most corrupt country in the world!

 

[prasad1]

Why are the political parties silent on Anna Hazare fast for getting the Lokpal bill passed by Parliament..Though the Lokpal bill has been tabled in Parliament, not sure if it will get passed with Samajwadi party opposing the bill...

Anna's fast enters eight day, condition deteriorates

Anna, is not the smartest person, and he just blackmails governments for personal glory. Lokpal bill is not going to achieve anything, and people like mody will not give support to an authority, that can control their power.
You kust have to see the Gujarat model, that lokpal is a toothless tiger.

 

[prasad1]

The original concept of morality comes from religion.

 

[sarang]

In sanathana dharma, matham (religion) and morality (ethics) are different.

 

[tbs]

hi

latest development....
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[Nara]

Extending this logic, can we say that there are no corrupt atheists? Would it be fair?

auh, why bring atheists into this, leave us alone.

If Anna wants to fast let him, why interfere? Let him fast as long as he likes.

 

[krish44]

auh, why bring atheists into this, leave us alone.

If Anna wants to fast let him, why interfere? Let him fast as long as he likes.

Aasthik and Nasthik can breathe in peace. Anna has scaled down his demands to undercut Kejriwal Lok sabha has cleared lokpal by voice vote after clearance from rajyasabha.anna will break fast Rahul Further wants to pass other laws relating to eradication of corruption such as whistle blowersbill,citizen charter etc and wants loksabha session winter session extended. Nara ji no one will let you breathe freely in this country and practice your brand of atheism

 

[auh]

auh, why bring atheists into this, leave us alone.

If Anna wants to fast let him, why interfere? Let him fast as long as he likes.

The point was to indicate that atheism is as much susceptible or unsusceptible, as the case may be, as theism, in the matter of corruption. And to be taken in the context of what Shri Sangom had said.

 

[auh]

...Nara ji no one will let you breathe freely in this country and practice your brand of atheism

Sir, what is this particular brand of atheism that Nara ji is practicing? Are there many brands? Please enlighten...

And I hope that you didn't mean me in the "no one" category...

 

[krish44]

Sir, what is this particular brand of atheism that Nara ji is practicing? Are there many brands? Please enlighten...

And I hope that you didn't mean me in the "no one" category...

auh sir to understand Nara ji you have to go through all his posts . he would like to be left alone
,you can your self decide to which category you belong to.

 

[vgane]

With the historic Lokpal Bill passed by both Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha, the anti corruption crusader Anna Hazare has ended his fast!

It is a victory to Anna's policies and his peaceful protests!

Let us not belittle his efforts in the passing of this magnifient legislation to curb corruption in the higher echelons of power!

Hunger strikes (Satyagraha) continues to a powerful weapon in the 21st century too!

We cannot forget Mahatma Gandhi who was the champion of Satyagraha!

 

[கால பைரவன்]

With the historic Lokpal Bill passed by both Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha, the anti corruption crusader Anna Hazare has ended his fast!

It is a victory to Anna's policies and his peaceful protests!

Let us not belittle his efforts in the passing of this magnifient legislation to curb corruption in the higher echelons of power!

Hunger strikes (Satyagraha) continues to a powerful weapon in the 21st century too!

We cannot forget Mahatma Gandhi who was the champion of Satyagraha!

Vgane, This passing of lokpal bill is not going to bring any positive change. The very fact that the selection of lokpal committee will not be free of communal discrimination speaks volumes about where this country is headed!!!

 

[krish44]

With the historic Lokpal Bill passed by both Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha, the anti corruption crusader Anna Hazare has ended his fast!

It is a victory to Anna's policies and his peaceful protests!

Let us not belittle his efforts in the passing of this magnifient legislation to curb corruption in the higher echelons of power!

Hunger strikes (Satyagraha) continues to a powerful weapon in the 21st century too!

We cannot forget Mahatma Gandhi who was the champion of Satyagraha!

we have to give the devil his due . even a diluted lokpal thru his efforts and public participation is a victory

 

[krish44]

Vgane, This passing of lokpal bill is not going to bring any positive change. The very fact that the selection of lokpal committee will not be free of communal discrimination speaks volumes about where this country is headed!!!

kala bharaivan ji . letus not be despondent about the the state of our country . our youth and women power will bring about changes and a new India will emerge

 

[vgane]

What does the Lokpal entail...Noble intentions! But implementation should be in spirit!

The Lokpal and Lokayuktas Bill, 2011

The Rajya Sabha passed the Lokpal and Lokayuktas Bill, 2011 on December 17, 2013 and the Bill has been passed by the Lok Sabha today.

Some of the important features in the Bill are as below:-


· Lokpal at the Centre and Lokayukta at the level of the States.

· The Lokpal will consist of a Chairperson and a maximum of eight Members, of which fifty percent shall be judicial members.

· Fifty per cent of members of Lokpal shall be from amongst SC/ST/OBCs, Minorities and Women.

· The selection of Chairperson and Members of Lokpal shall be through a Selection Committee consisting of:- § Prime Minister; § Speaker of Lok Sabha; § Leader of Opposition in the Lok Sabha; § Chief Justice of India or a sitting Supreme Court judge nominated by CJI; § Eminent jurist to be nominated by the President of India on the basis of recommendations of the first four members of the Selection Committee.


· Prime Minister has been brought under the purview of the Lokpal.


· Lokpal’s jurisdiction will cover all categories of public servants.


· All entities receiving donations from foreign source in the context of the Foreign Contribution Regulation Act (FCRA) in excess of Rs. 10 lakhs per year are brought under the jurisdiction of Lokpal.

· Provides adequate protection for honest and upright Public Servants.

· Lokpal will have power of superintendence and direction over any investigation agency including CBI for cases referred to them by Lokpal.


· A high powered Committee chaired by the Prime Minister will recommend selection of the Director,CBI.


· Directorate of Prosecution headed by a Director of Prosecution under the overall control of Director;


· The appointment of the Director of Prosecution, CBI on the recommendation of the Central Vigilance Commission;

· Transfer of officers of CBI investigating cases referred by Lokpal with the approval of Lokpal;

· The Bill also incorporates provisions for attachment and confiscation of property acquired by corrupt means, even while prosecution is pending.

· The Bill lays down clear time lines for Preliminary enquiry & investigation and trial and towards this end, the Bill provides for setting up of Special Courts.


· A mandate for setting up of the institution of Lokayukta through enactment of a law by the State Legislature within a period of 365 days from the date of commencement of the Act.

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=101963

 

[Nara]

auh sir to understand Nara ji you have to go through all his posts . he would like to be left alone
,you can your self decide to which category you belong to.

No, no, I am curious too, what brand is it, I would like to know, please don't leave me hanging ....

 

[sangom]

What does the Lokpal entail...Noble intentions! But implementation should be in spirit!

The Lokpal and Lokayuktas Bill, 2011

The Rajya Sabha passed the Lokpal and Lokayuktas Bill, 2011 on December 17, 2013 and the Bill has been passed by the Lok Sabha today.

Some of the important features in the Bill are as below:-


· Lokpal at the Centre and Lokayukta at the level of the States.

· The Lokpal will consist of a Chairperson and a maximum of eight Members, of which fifty percent shall be judicial members.

· Fifty per cent of members of Lokpal shall be from amongst SC/ST/OBCs, Minorities and Women.

· The selection of Chairperson and Members of Lokpal shall be through a Selection Committee consisting of:- § Prime Minister; § Speaker of Lok Sabha; § Leader of Opposition in the Lok Sabha; § Chief Justice of India or a sitting Supreme Court judge nominated by CJI; § Eminent jurist to be nominated by the President of India on the basis of recommendations of the first four members of the Selection Committee.


· Prime Minister has been brought under the purview of the Lokpal.


· Lokpal’s jurisdiction will cover all categories of public servants.


· All entities receiving donations from foreign source in the context of the Foreign Contribution Regulation Act (FCRA) in excess of Rs. 10 lakhs per year are brought under the jurisdiction of Lokpal.

· Provides adequate protection for honest and upright Public Servants.

· Lokpal will have power of superintendence and direction over any investigation agency including CBI for cases referred to them by Lokpal.


· A high powered Committee chaired by the Prime Minister will recommend selection of the Director,CBI.


· Directorate of Prosecution headed by a Director of Prosecution under the overall control of Director;


· The appointment of the Director of Prosecution, CBI on the recommendation of the Central Vigilance Commission;

· Transfer of officers of CBI investigating cases referred by Lokpal with the approval of Lokpal;

· The Bill also incorporates provisions for attachment and confiscation of property acquired by corrupt means, even while prosecution is pending.

· The Bill lays down clear time lines for Preliminary enquiry & investigation and trial and towards this end, the Bill provides for setting up of Special Courts.


· A mandate for setting up of the institution of Lokayukta through enactment of a law by the State Legislature within a period of 365 days from the date of commencement of the Act.

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Dear Gane,

The major parties, Cong & BJP - in Parliament - have fooled Anna and passed this hotch-potch bill in order to score brownie points in front of their electorates. Reality in a country like India will be that there will be no government work moving for, say, the first six months of setting up of the LokPal and his outfit/s and, thereafter, the bribe rates will register an increase because the cut of the LokPal & his office have also to be taken care of by the concerned (corrupt) official!

After all, we are a nation with a hoary culture of bribing even the gods!

Since all NGOs are kept out of the purview of this Act, the way also has been shown; anybody can set up an NGO and contributions made to such NGO is out of Lok Pal's purview. And the way has already been trodden by almost all our gurus/godmen/godwomen/-anandas and what have you.

 

[krish44]

No, no, I am curious too, what brand is it, I would like to know, please don't leave me hanging ....

naraji ,atheism originated from greeks meaning 'without god' . In a broad sense the rejection of belief underscore belief in the existence of deiites. in narrower sense,there is the position there are no deities. rationalist believe there are no Gods citing lack of empirical evidence. Atheism is accepted in religeous sytems including hinduism The degree of belief in atheism is a matter of personal preference. my knowledge of atheism ends here . refer wikipedia for more. .regards

 

[vgane]

Dear Gane,

The major parties, Cong & BJP - in Parliament - have fooled Anna and passed this hotch-potch bill in order to score brownie points in front of their electorates. Reality in a country like India will be that there will be no government work moving for, say, the first six months of setting up of the LokPal and his outfit/s and, thereafter, the bribe rates will register an increase because the cut of the LokPal & his office have also to be taken care of by the concerned (corrupt) official!

After all, we are a nation with a hoary culture of bribing even the gods!

Since all NGOs are kept out of the purview of this Act, the way also has been shown; anybody can set up an NGO and contributions made to such NGO is out of Lok Pal's purview. And the way has already been trodden by almost all our gurus/godmen/godwomen/-anandas and what have you.

Dear Shri Sangom,

Hope your conjecture turns out to be false!

But see this toon by Manjul exactly reflecting your apprehension!

 

[கால பைரவன்]

The joke is actually on a Anna Hazare or a Arvind Kejiriwal as they can not even become a member of the lokpal committee. 50% of seats reserved for judicial members, 50% for ST/SC/OBC/Minority/Women. LOL!