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Bribes and Corruptions

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It is fascinating to read that higher minimum wage will deter corruption. The richest people are the most corrupt as the amount of bribe is higher.

Secondly according to some economists increasing minimum is the cause of unemployment in USA.
What is the guarantee that after increasing the wages, the employees will stop the corruption?

Corruption is a moral issue, and enforcement of laws is legal and police issue. If the legal system is immoral there is no solution.
 
Corruption, as visioned in our ordinary circumstances, is a state of mind, imho. It originates in an eagerness to make "easy money" or "easy income". This has some unresearched (I think so) links to our Hindu world view.

In the Hindu view, this entire world is Maayaa or unreal, and reality lies elsewhere. The advaita philosophy as interpreted by the very many preachers and authors, tends to deal mostly with the philosophical nuances marginalizing the requirements of people to become eligible for such philosophical knowledge and enlightenment. There are cases of Swamis and Acharyas, who are usually held in high respect by the hoi polloi, being exposed and found to have led immoral and unprincipled lives, themselves. Thus the interface between religion and the ordinary man in the street is believed to be corrupt.

The comparative position in the other major religions is also not very different. Hence, for the man-in-the street, there is no strong religious instinct to lead an uncorrupted life. Next, he finds the ruling class, i.e., the Politicians, right from those in the bottom-most level to the highest level in the land virtually wallowing in corruption. Unlike the olden days we have the spy cameras, wikileaks and even CAG reports indicting the high and the mighty.

Corruption in the judiciary is something like Brahman, the God; Everyone probably knows and feels that it exists but no one is able to pinpoint it. ;)

In such circumstances when the Government's consciously laid-out policies invite the western way of living and affords all support to the automobile, FMCG and related areas, the society gets under the influence of a highly consumerist phase. Each person has to keep up with his or her joneses and look to one's neighbor as a benchmark for social standing or the accumulation of material goods. Failure in this regard is perceived as demonstrating socio-economic or cultural inferiority. The impressionable youth are the most swayed by this phenomenon and the parents are driven to finding out the resources to keep up with the joneses. Since even our gurus, babas, swamijis, etc., love very much to lead a cushy life with all that modern society elsewhere can provide to them in US or Europe, the common people have no example to follow any other, more frugal and less ostentatious model to adopt.

Everyone therefore tries to make "extra" income to meet the ever-swelling consumerist demands at the personal as well as the family levels. Some have no option/avenues except doing hard work in more than one place for 14 or 15 hours total per day, but many find themselves in a position to use their discretion in the very long chain of our Government machinery providing service to the common people; they then decide to extract a certain premium for using such discretion in favour of the common man and this is the most familiar face of corruption. (Incidentally, A.Raja also did the same thing only - used his discretionary powers to favour some but the payment was a little circuitous, is it not?)

We have always had the rate of bribes informally known to anyone and everyone who has something to get done in any government office - right from the village panchayat to the GOI ministries in New Delhi, and from the Magistrate's court to the highest level probably. I feel the best course for the country will be to "tolerate" this corruption, just as we arehabituated to breaking coconut in front of Ganesh for success in any and every undertaking of ours.

The more we make efforts to eradicate this from our society, the more powerful it will grow and it is a vicious cycle because the bribe-taker on one spot is also bribe-giver in a dozen other spots, and if the rate at any one point increases there is a chain reaction and all other rates will also increase.

So, let us say "Jai Corruption" and go to sleep without any tension in our minds ;)

Sorry for the very long post.
 
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When I was discussing about the bribes and corruptions with a class III and Class IV employees of the state government, they said "friend you (the person with money) buy lands, flats and admit your sons and daughters in convents and educate them in leading engineering collages. The persons with the officer ranks gets this done very quickly and comfortably by sitting in the office. But whereas we the Class are educating our children in government schools where the teachers often take leave and if they put leave no one to take the class. Can you tell me how many students who passed in Government school passed in IAS, IIMs, IITs etc.,

The salary we get is not sufficient for the rent we give. The price of the food, cloth vegetables are increasing every hour and we also need to take at least half meal.

See we are getting Rs12000 per month. we in our family has 6 persons myself, wife and two children and our parents. we are paying rent of Rs5000 and we paid Rs 25,000 as advance to the house owner as interest free deposit. then comes EB, Electrical maintenance, power charges which will be around Rs1000 per month.For our food we spend Rs 6000. For medical Rs 2000 minimum. Then comes our transport and auto expanses. we too get guests for whom we are to invite. Then comes accepting marriage invitations and other functions for which we are to pay Rs 500 to 1000.. If there a function in our family we are to spend. If there is a death we are to pay a minimum of Rs 15000 to the funeral expanses. Where is our savings?

If we want to educate our children we are buy an application form at the rate of Rs1000/=, which is not worth for a rupee. Then comes the fees. then capitation fees, then books and note books. They, the school sells 10 times higher than the market price, then comes the uniforms, cloths, etc., etc., and if we want transfer we are to grease the officer's palms. If we want a flat the officers themselves present every available flat to each one them and make us stay in a hut.

First advice us how to overcome these problems and then teach us to be a perfect Government no no no a perfect Public servant.

Is there any answers and advices for this questions?

This is the reality,any government that doesn't provide social security of any sort ll not be taken seriously.
 
This is the reality,any government that doesn't provide social security of any sort ll not be taken seriously.

We Indians are ready for hand outs. Why does a government need to provide a social security? Have you looked at the possible source of such a fund? Have you looked at the cost of administering such a fund? Even countries that provide a social security is now having to rethink the system.

Our temples are built by Raja's or other rich organizations, we go to temple and do archana and think we support temples. The Archana money probably does not even cover the cost of Ghee for valluku. In foreign countries people of Indian origin put their own money to build temples, they do not wait for handouts.

Please stop making excuses for corruption. Corruption is a due to lack of moral values. No bill or politics is going to change it.
 
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