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Case filed against social scientist Kancha Ilaiah for asking, 'Is God a democrat?'

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Case filed against social scientist Kancha Ilaiah for asking, 'Is God a democrat?'


Monday, June 1st 2015






The Hyderabad police have registered a case against renowned social scientist Kancha Ilaiah, after Vishwa Hindu Parishad activists complained that an opinion piece he wrote in the Telugu newspaper Andhra Jyothi had hurt their religious sentiments.

They filed their complaint at Hyderabad’s Sultan Bazar Station was filed on May 9, the day Ilaiah’s article titled Devudu Prajasamya Vada Kada? (Is God a democrat?) was published.

VHP activists Pagudakula Balaswamy, Thirupathi Naik and two others accused Ilaiah of comparing Hinduism with Islam and Christianity, insulting Hindu Gods by comparing them to mortals, mocking their worship, and for attempting to trigger clashes between upper and lower classes (by which they presumably meant castes).

On the basis of their complaint, Inspector P. Shiva Shankar Rao wrote a letter to the Senior Assistant Public Prosecutor, who advised the police to register a case under Section 153 (A) and Section 295 (A), which empower the authorities to act against people who commit deliberate and malicious acts aiming at outraging religious sentiment and spreading enmity between groups.

Case under investigation

The public prosecutor’s legal opinion led to a case being filed on May 15 against Ilaiah, the management of the Andhra Jyothi newspaper, its editor and publisher. The case is currently under investigation, at the completion of which a decision will be taken to whether to chargesheet them.

A police officer at the station told Scroll that Ilaiah is in the habit of articulating provocative views in his articles, which can and do hurt the sentiments of people. “Why does he have to make comments against practices which are dear to people?” the officer said, declining to give his name.

The central thesis of the article is that a society’s social and political structures are profoundly influenced by its conception of God and by its religious beliefs.

Three conceptions of God

Ilaiah delineates three types of Gods: an Abstract God, one who is shapeless and eternal; individuals who were prophets but were transformed into Gods; and Gods imagined as humans. Each category conveys certain ideas through their attributes, Ilaiah claims.

The Abstract God has democratic qualities, he contended. The first of these characteristics, as expressed in the Bible and the Koran, is that God “has created all human beings equal”. The second democratic character of this kind of God is that humans are created superior to all animals (including the cow), and “nature and its creatures have been created for food and other human purposes”.

Both Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammad propounded these ideas, he said. However, in contrast to the Prophet Mohammad, Christ acquired the status of God, as did Gautam Buddha, he writes. “Buddha and Jesus are against violence,” he wrote. “Their teaching inspired hopes for equality across the whole human race. Both their life stories have extended discussions on societal construction, change in man-woman relationships, desired forms of rule and democratic values.”

However, Ilaiah rates Jesus Christ ahead of Buddha in espousing democratic ideals. “His fight for the freedom of Samaritans (Dalits over there), women, Gentile men and women, slaves and prostitutes, seem to be one step ahead of the Buddha’s democratic values,” he claimed. “He is the one who clearly stated about the necessity of separating state and religion.”

Separating religion and state

The social scientist wrote that Christ’s teachings have helped Christian countries to evolve democratic principles. By contrast, despite the great emphasis in the Koran on the equality of all humans, there was no separation of religion and state during the life of Prophet Mohammad and during the reign of the four Caliphs. This may be why dictatorships have dominated Muslim countries, which have feeble democratic traditions, Ilaiah suggested.

Next, Ilaiah turns to the third category – God as imagined as humans. Though this type of Gods is found around the world, he says it is only in India they are divided into two entities: “Vishnu and his clan of incarnations” and “Shiva and the divine powers created around him”. The Saiva school’s impact on contemporary India was limited, he writes. It did not really create social-political principles. By contrast, institutions and political parties in India have declared “spiritual and political allegiance to Vaishnavism and its Gods”.

Ilaiah, therefore, suggests that it is more important to study the impact of Vaishnavism on Indian society. The narratives and imagery around Rama and Krishna, who are incarnations of Vishnu, involved violence and weaponry such as the chakram, bow and arrow and the trishul (trident), he writes. This has a bearing on human relations, he contends.

Caste identities

Ilaiah also alleges that these narratives contain what he calls the “counter-democratic process”. The fact that these Gods have identities rooted in the Kshatriya caste “has greatly helped in building an undemocratic system”, he wrote.

The article ends with a few questions: “If the God believed by a person doesn’t have democratic values, where will this person get those democratic values from? In fact, shouldn’t they explain why they create such Gods who are violent, undemocratic and anti-women?”

Ilaiah told Scroll that he was not perturbed by the case. “I am into transforming thought,” he said. “Such pressure is expected. I am not scared. My motive is to make the nation rethink its uncivilised conduct.”

Statement of support

He is not without his supporters. On May 27, Andhra Jyothi carried a statement by 76 Telugu writers, intellectuals and artists backing Ilaiah. The statement said, “Prof. Kancha Ilaiah wrote an article by describing the democratic values and showing how negative spiritual values come in the way of development of national economic, social and political future.”

His supporters urged his opponents to counter his arguments in articles of their own. “Instead, in order to control Prof. Ilaiah’s ideas, some forces are resorting to legal and coercive methods, which cannot be supported by anybody,” the statement said.

The statement concludes, “Today, Kancha Ilaiah’s writings are making the world think afresh. Only the communal bigots are unable to understand those ideas.”

Ajaz Ashraf is a journalist from Delhi. His novel, The Hour Before Dawn, published by HarperCollins, is available in bookstores.

Case filed against social scientist Kancha Ilaiah for asking, 'Is God a democrat?'



MEMBERS ARE SUGGESTED TO USE THEIR DISCRETION AND TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THEIR WORDING OF REPLIES TO THIS THREAD AS THE MATTER IS IN COURT.
 
India is known for encouraging all kinds of ideas including stupid ones.
This fellow is uninformed and should not be given importance by filing case against him in my view.
However there could be a rebuttal showing why he is uninformed and show that his intent is not honorable.
 
Section 153 (A) and Section 295 (A), which empower the authorities to act against people who commit deliberate and malicious acts aiming at outraging religious sentiment and spreading enmity between groups.

Convenient and universal clause for filing a case. Like cricket board, the authorities must generate a list of offensive words, phrases and sentences that are objectionable. In the india australia match there was a huge cry whether 'monkey' is an abusive word or not.

Like the words, manusmriti, varnasramam, hindutva, brahmana, are all good and acceptable words when uttered by some, become abusive words Iliah type mouth them.
 
I have pondered, many a time, about why the western countries have been able to have their own scientific and technological leap of excellence, side by side with a high degree of civic sense, respect for rules and regulations, etc., whereas countries like India, those of Africa and South-east Asia have not been able to come anywhere near the western people's ability in such areas. Even though some claims are made, now and then, about an Indian or a person with some Indian lineage/connection, making a phenomenal breakthrough in science/technology, it is almost always happening in the west and the concerned Indian would have most probably settled in the west permanently; more often than not, that Indian-origin person will be no more than a subordinate researcher in the larger team, and not the main person concerned.

Even in regard to the IT sector, though India has a very vast IT workforce, there has been no great invention from India in IT/Computer Science, and hardly any patents; phenomena like flipkart are, it appears, no more than setting up large electronic malls in the internet world and nothing scientifically earthshaking.

What can be the reason/s for this permanent scientific and technological "laggardness" of India? Has our Hindu religion any role in this? Or, is it our national trait of being corrupt? How come corruption has been endemic in this country, as vouchsafed right from Chanakya's Arthasastra times, side by side with a great religious undercurrent which now covers almost the entire population, irrespective of caste?

Is it because the people were told, during the struggle for freedom from the British, that disobedience of Law (i.e., the then British Government's orders), violent attacks on the British Officials (who were seen as representative of the Colonial Power that ruled the country) etc., were to be praised as expressions of True Patriotism and these lessons continue in the minds of a vast majority of the people, even today? Or is it something to do with the Indian genetic structure itself?

I think we may discuss these aspects, if members also so think, without bringing in Shri Kancha Ilaiah's article or the case against him.
 
One line answer; yata raja, tata prajaah. Individuals have done well in all fields, some groups have done well despite negative forces and negative pressure. I tis a waste of time to talk of pre independence days. First sixty years has not given us the force and acceleration. Next ten years will change everything.
 
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