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Dadri lynching: India should hang its head in shame

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கால பைரவன்;320232 said:
Don't worry TKS ji.. You have not reached the level of being a hindutva troll yet. You only have a "jalraa" status :-)

What is sad is the glee of the people belonging to the "jihadi-jesus" lobby in reporting such incidents. To them, this is just an opportunity for one-upmanship and nothing else...

நான் முற்பிறவியில் என்ன புண்ணியம் செய்தேனோ? to have earned this Jalara status :-)
 
National Commission for Minorities (NCM) has served a show cause notice on the District Magistrate of Goutam Buddh Nagar on the Dadri incident.
 
Typical sickular and selective blame apportioning mindset exhibited by the well exposed sickular politicians and bigots. In the same period there are a dozen similar wanton murders, but only one is picked up because the victim is a minority, but bury the rest of murders as there is no political gain. It is the duty of all honest citizens to ensure that justice is rendered to all. The first step is to ensure that all incidents are reported, investigated and get even treatment in the press. Hijacking for personal and political gains is to be exposed and resisted.

1. The family is given a compensation of 45 lakhs, a record by any current standard.
2. Who started the rumour is under wraps as it will only weaken the case.
3. The main accused is a policeman and is known to have property related dispute with the victim.
4. Like church attack and nun rape case, the crime is given a anti hindu colour to blame hindus and bjp in the runup to the election. More such issues will be created in the coming weeks but will not benefit the sickular parties,
5. The social media has exposed the falsity and biased reporting in such cases and is more alert now.

Let us follow the case till the end. Akilesh and lallu yadav had to eat their statements and are laughing stock.

Do we need more than a tweet to make it credible.

2 unrelated events does not negate either event.

Talk about the event in discussion in this thread. No need to divert attention away from the topic. If that is the RSS way, then you mat do so in your friends circle.

In this site at least try to stay on the topic under discussion,
Don't just muddy up the waters.
 
At least seven out of 10 accused, who are named in the FIR in connection with the Dadri murder case belong to the family of BJP leader Sanjay Rana, reported a leading daily.
According to Indian Express report, all the residents are of Bisara village in Gautam Budh Nagar district, who are between the ages of 18 and 24.
Few days ago,​ Mohammad Akhlaq was dragged out of his home and stoned to death on a village street after a public announcement from the local temple was made that the family had slaughtered a calf and eaten its meat.
While Akhlaq died, his 22-year-old son Danish is battling for life at a hospital following two brain surgeries. According to NDTV report, the main accused Vishal, is the son of Sanjay Rana. He allegedly organised a meeting in which the mob was incited to attack the Akhlaq family.
Other accused include Saurabh, Gaurav, Sandeep, Shivam, Sachin and Vivek are from his family. The other three, Rupendra, Hari Om and Shri Om are their neighbours. Sachin and Hari Om are still absconding.
The two main accused Shivam and Vishal, were arrested on Saturday.
Quoting Circle Officer Anurag Singh. the report added, "The list of 10 includes three sets of brothers — Saurav and Gaurav, Vivek and Sachin, and Shri Om and Hari Om.

I am sure RSS-mouthpiece must be really gloating.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...sed-related-to-bjp-leader-sanjay-rana-2131718
 
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I actually do not get it..why such a fuss about who eats what...its not as if all Hindus are Vegetarians!

Non Veg Hindus eat fish,chicken,mutton,prawns,crab etc...so why get worked up for only a cow?

All animal lives are sacred..there is nothing extra special of a cow.
 
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A 90-year-old Dalit man died after he was brutally attacked with an axe and set on fire for trying to enter a temple at Hamirpur in India’s Uttar Pradesh province, police said on Friday.
The victim, identified as Chimma, had gone to the Maidani Baba temple with his wife, son Durjan and brother on Wednesday evening. He was stopped from entering the temple by a man named Sanjay Tiwari.
When Chimma did not relent, Tiwari allegedly attacked him with an axe and then set him on fire.
The incident took place in the presence of several other worshippers in Bilgaon, a village on the boundary between Hamirpur and Jalaun districts located 140km from Kanpur.
Police said Tiwari had been arrested after he was nabbed by other people present in the area. They said he was drunk at the time of the incident.
An eyewitness said Tiwari had asked Chimma and several others not to enter the temple but they refused.
He said Tiwari became furious and attacked the Dalit man with an axe. While Chimma’s wife screamed for help, Tiwari doused the elderly man with kerosene and set him afire, the eyewitness said.
Two aides of Tiwari, who were named in the FIR filed by police, are on the run, said Mukesh Aghi, president of the US-Indian Business Council.


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I actually do not get it..why such a fuss about who eats what...its not as if all Hindus are Vegetarians!

Non Veg Hindus eat fish,chicken,mutton,prawns,crab etc...so why get worked up for only a cow?

All animal lives are sacred..there is nothing extra special of a cow.
During my morning walk I had an opportunity to have a casual talk with my friends,who are non-veg eaters and come to know of their views.
In Hindus, Brahmins and other forward castes put together form 25 to 30%.
The rest 70 to 75% are branded as BC/OBC/SC/ST. 99% of this category are all non vegetarians.
Among the Brahmins & other forward castes perhaps 10% would be non vegetarians and it is said could eat mutton and beef without knowing the difference. 70 % of the non vegetarians eat beef.

In Kanyakumari, the adjoining District of Kerala, many people slaughter "calf" during marriage festivals as its flesh could be tender.
It is said that Cow & Calf are symbols of God / God deities and people worship them. Hindutva gives importance to these animals for that reason.
Besides, almost all Muslims are beef eaters.
In Tamil nadu & Kerala if beef is banned, survival of Governments will be in question.
 
The Uttar Pradesh government late on Monday evening submitted its report to the Centre on the Dadri lynching incident, but refrained from specifically mentioning "beef consumption or cow slaughter" rumours as the reason behind the killing of Mohammad Akhlaq.

The TOI has learnt that the report, sent four days after the Centre asked for it, is a factual account of the incident as recorded in the FIR registered by the UP police. It merely states that Akhlaq and his son were attacked by some unidentified people over unconfirmed allegations of having consumed "pratibandhit pashu ka maans" (meat of an animal banned from slaughter).

The UP report makes no mention of the possible circumstances that may have incited the lynching act, said a senior official of the home ministry. "It is more a factual report that reproduces the contents of the FIR registered at Dadri," the officer told TOI.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...re-on-Dadri-lynching/articleshow/49239802.cms
 
A Delhi journalist has written a first-person account for Scroll.in, a news and opinions website, that on Sunday, some members of the Delhi police threatened to cut him into pieces if he interacted with anyone protesting the beef ban. His requests to call his family and his lawyer were both rudely denied, he writes.

"The law can protect criminals but it won't protect sinners like you," a constable said to him, he writes.

The same policemen detained Mayank Jain, the journalist, for seven hours, despite him telling them he was a journalist and that he was merely going to cover an event called the 'Beefy Party' by those protesting the recent lynching of a Muslim man in UP's Dadri district for allegedly having consumed beef. Police tore up his business card saying it was "all fake media", Mayank writes.

Also detained along with Mayank was Gaurav Jain, the organiser of the 'Beefy Party' protest. Gaurav had urged protestors to 'BYOB' — 'Bring Your Own Beef' — and eat it at a "Beefy Picnic" on Ashoka Road.

The fact that their surnames were Jain, enraged the policemen even more, Mayank writes. "Today's kids are throwing Hinduism into a gutter," he quotes the policeman as saying. "Is this what your parents teach you? That you go out and eat beef?" the policemen is said to have asked.

Mayank's bag and phone had been checked thoroughly - for beef and for texts showing he was 'the one', respectively, as he exited the Patel Chowk metro station not long before his detention. The real 'one' they were looking for, was the protest's organizer, Gaurav, who later told Mayank that the security check at the metro station couldn't find the beef he was carrying, because it was hidden deep inside his bag.

"Almost seven hours after being detained, there had been no written complaint, no First Information Report, no paperwork of any sort that could prove that we had actually been detained. When we asked why we had been taken in, we were told that we had "offended the feelings of a lot of people" for which we would be "punished", Mayank writes.

He was then let go.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-anti-beef-ban-event/articleshow/49242209.cms
 
A murder that should have been cause for ending politics-as-usual and for political introspection is now becoming a lightening rod for exposing the worst kinds of prejudices, hypocrisy and hatred. UP’s politicians continue to talk in coded language, cleverly designed to denigrate the ‘Other’, inflame passions and to shore up their own little constituencies of support. Never mind, democracy, rule of law or even basic decency and morality.

Sangeet Som(and his chamchas) should answer why seven of the 10 names in the police’s FIR are reportedly linked to a district BJP worker. Is it not possible to be opposed to beef and yet be against breaking the law instead of grandstanding about a “munh-tod jawab”?

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatime...&utm_campaign=TOInewHP&utm_medium=Widget_Stry
 
It has been more than a week since the horrific Dadri lynching incident shook our collective conscience. For those who believe that idea of India is pluralistic with multiple strands of thought process and beliefs living peacefully with a common pledge to the Constitution, the belief has been dealt a deadly blow by this brutal incidence of mob violence with gross communal overtones.
The already vitiated situation in Bisara village in Dadri has been further poisoned by provocative speeches given by politicians. Beyond the thin veneer of condemnation, a section of politicians, especially those from BJP, have tried to tone down the gruesomeness of the murder with Union Minister Mahesh Sharma even terming it as an accident. BJP MLA Sangeet Som says he will try to get bail for the accused (8 out of 11 related to a BJP leader) whom he has already declared as innocent. MP Sakshi Maharaj says that his supporters and he are willing to get killed and kill for cows. Others like MP Tarun Vijay have written about how beef festivals and ‘provocative butchering of cows’ are to blamed for such ‘aberrations’.

The Dadri incident like the infamous Nirbhaya rape case has hit international headlines and is likely to further tarnish the image of a country aspiring to be a global superpower, something even PM Modi with his high-flying foreign trips may find difficult to undo immediately. This begs the question: Why is PM Modi keeping a stoic silence about the incident? There are many who believe that this incident is about the degrading law and order issue of UP , and that it is the responsibility of the state. Hence, they reason, the PM is not compelled to say anything about an issue not directly under his purview. They miss a vital point. The larger question is whether Narendra Modi’s dream of Swachh Bharat should be about clean roads or clean minds too. As senior journalist Ravish Kumar writes poignantly in his column, there was not a trace of remorse in Bisara village, as if nothing had happened. In fact, according to Ravish, in Mohammed Akhlaq’s village of Bisara the youth are more hostile and radicalised than the older generation, exhibiting strong orthodoxy and completely messing up the concepts of rights and freedom of expression.

Dadri will probably not be the last incident to test the secular (Or as Sarangji calles it sickular with disdain) fabric of the country. It is up to the politicians and opinion makers to truly demonstrate great responsibility commensurate to their great power and try to sensitise the population and speak out against evil without caring for labels, ideology or narrow gains. Till then, we will merely outrage and move on.



http://www.dnaindia.com/india/comme...tory-of-silence-and-selective-outrage-2132058
 
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Non Veg Hindus eat fish,chicken,mutton,prawns,crab etc...so why get worked up for only a cow?

It is deliberately being worked up to polarise the people for electoral and other political benefits .
 
It is deliberately being worked up to polarise the people for electoral and other political benefits .

I actually do not get it..why such a fuss about who eats what...its not as if all Hindus are Vegetarians!

Non Veg Hindus eat fish,chicken,mutton,prawns,crab etc...so why get worked up for only a cow?

All animal lives are sacred..there is nothing extra special of a cow.

I think a significant portion of hindus consider cow as sacred and this kind of rationalization of why one animal should be more sacred on other is not relevant, imho. I do not think people would be worked out like this if it not were a hindu belief. There are selective bans against killing of animals even due to secular reasons or sentimental beliefs in many countries (laws against killing of pets or consumption of meat exist even in some US states). The main issue here is cow as an important religious symbol for hindus. It is being deliberately twisted into "right to consume meat" etc. I think even the muslims may concede to a beef ban but not the hindu-hating seculars and that I think is the crux of the problem.
 
The op is not about Cow being killed or beef trade. Once you disregard that and take the position that Killing a human being is warranted for such an act, you have sunk below humanity. There is no hope for humanity in you.
The thread was about lynching of 50-year-old Mohammad Akhlaq, father of an Indian Air Force Jawan.
I do not think there is any equating of killing an animal (including Cow) with killing of an innocent family man, a fellow human being.
 
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The lynching of a 50-year-old Muslim man in Dadri over rumours of eating beef did not happen on the "spur of the moment" and was planned by certain Hindutva forces, a 'fact-finding' committee of academicians from JNU and Delhi University, among others, has claimed.The group, Janhastakshep, also accused the Uttar Pradesh government of allowing "free play" to the communal forces and demanded a high-level inquiry into killing of Iqlakh and punishment to the guilty.
"There was ample evidence available to suggest that the incident did not take place on the spur of the moment and had been well planned by the Hindutva forces.
"It was implemented through a maze of front organisations other than those associated with Sangh Parivar so it is established that such an event cannot be directly attributed to the Sangh," Ish Mishra, Janhastakshep convenor told reporters.

The group also condemned the remarks made by Union Minister Mahesh Sharma, terming the incident an "accident resulting from misunderstanding", and demanded that he be removed from the Ministry and an FIR be filed against him.
"We also demand that action be taken against local police for its failure to restrain the local communal elements and for failing to keep track of the activities of numerous senas which have been active in vitiating the atmosphere in the area," Mishra said.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/1510...ching-pre-medidated-du-jnu-fact-finding-panel
 
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No politics on Dadri incident: Union Minister Mahesh Sharma

"Law should take its course and there should be fair investigation. I condemn any attempt to give political or communal colour to this incident. Such people are neither well wishers of the society nor of the country," Sharma said.

Read more at: http://www.ptinews.com/news/6568071...-incident--Union-Minister-Mahesh-Sharma-.html

The Dadri police also advised the police headquarters in Lucknow to take legal action against Union Minister for Culture and local MP Mahesh Sharma and BJP MLA and Muzaffarnagar riots accused Sangeet Som for violating prohibitory orders in Bishahra village.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...minister-mla/article7730806.ece?homepage=true


Do you still want the law to take its course? Or now that Sharmaji may be a culprit you want to run from that statement.
 
At a time when union home ministry has sent an advisory to all the states to adopt zero tolerance policy against those stoking communal tension, controversial and firebrand Sadhvi Prachi said that she would be visiting Dadri on Tuesday itself.

Talking to TOI from Varanasi, where she had gone to attend the VHP backed 'pratikar yatra' of seers and saints which turned violent on Monday evening forcing the administration to clamp curfew for a couple of hours in four police stations, Sadhvi said that she was about to catch a flight and would reach Dadri today. To a question on her need to visit Dadri, where a 50-year-old man was allegedly lynched by a mob for stoking and consuming beef, Prachi said that when leaders like Akbaruddin Owaisi can visit Dadri why can't she? Let the administration stop her, she said.

Interestingly, the likely visit of the Sadhvi, who is known for spitting venom on several occasions in the past, would come a couple of days after controversial BJP MLA Sangeet Singh Som visited the village of Bisahada where he has been blamed of making provocative speech at the village.

To a question on why so much hue and cry being raised over the eating habit of the people in the country, Sadhvi said that why shouldn't there be a restriction? Will they cut their mother into pieces and eat, Sadhvi asked and added then why will they eat cow meat even when they all know that cow is revered among the Hindus as mother.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ounces-Sadhvi-Prachi/articleshow/49243720.cms
 

BJP MP Yogi Adityanath’s outfit offers guns to Hindus in Dadri


Several members of the group, 'Hindu Yuva Vahini', today tried entering the village but were stopped by the police in view of the prohibitory orders.



An outfit floated by BJP MP Yogi Adityanath today offered all possible help “including guns” to the Hindus of Bishada village, as it alleged that they were being hounded following the lynching of Mohammed Akhlaq.

Several members of the group, ‘Hindu Yuva Vahini’, today tried entering the village but were stopped by the police in view of the prohibitory orders.

See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/in...guns-to-hindus-in-dadri/#sthash.PRvCPW6I.dpuf
 

BJP MP Yogi Adityanath’s outfit offers guns to Hindus in Dadri


Several members of the group, 'Hindu Yuva Vahini', today tried entering the village but were stopped by the police in view of the prohibitory orders.



An outfit floated by BJP MP Yogi Adityanath today offered all possible help “including guns” to the Hindus of Bishada village, as it alleged that they were being hounded following the lynching of Mohammed Akhlaq.

Several members of the group, ‘Hindu Yuva Vahini’, today tried entering the village but were stopped by the police in view of the prohibitory orders.

See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/in...guns-to-hindus-in-dadri/#sthash.PRvCPW6I.dpuf
This counter to the stated policy of the central BJP.
At a time when union home ministry has sent an advisory to all the states to adopt zero tolerance policy against those stoking communal tension.

So BJP is double faced, on one hand they are stocking the fire and at the same time pretending to douse the communal fire.
 
All Sickular outfits are keen to vitiate the atmosphere by stoking, but unable to even generate a spark. Expected riots have not happened. Hindus and some minorities have become wise. BJP will sweep bihar. Rahul, nitish and lalu have no issues to project and schemes to offer. Good days for bjp and modi wave.
 
Bitter truth cannot be eluded forever. In the one and a half years since he became Prime Minister, Mr Narendra Modi had made it his political style to remain disturbingly quiet when the country looked up to him.
This was especially the case when many of his fellow RSS “pracharaks” and others went on the rampage against minority faiths, as well as critics, baulking not even at murder — and sometimes even celebrating the extinguishing of the life of those who dare question them, as we recently saw after the Taliban-style killing of rationalist Kalburgi.
Many inferred that Mr Modi dare not rein in the armies of the religious Right who had campaigned for his election. However, in the immediate context of the lynching of a Muslim villager at Dadri, allegedly for eating beef, the PM appeared to find his voice all of a sudden. Remaining silent, and making the right noises about “development” as Hindutva-style goons flaunted their new-found power and instructed people on what to eat, wear, or study, was no longer an option after President Pranab Mukherjee on Wednesday reminded the country of the core values of diversity, tolerance and pluralism. Speaking thus, it was evident, the President was indirectly instructing the government.
The Dadri incident has caused inordinate damage to India’s image. One week on, members of the saffron brigade — Mr Modi’s ministers amongst them — have not stopped their noxious propaganda against Muslims, raising questions over whether the Prime Minister is serious when he makes politically correct observations from to time.
Some stalwart writers — among them Nayantara Sehgal, Jawaharlal Nehru’s niece and bitter critic of the Emergency imposed by her cousin Indira Gandhi — have returned their coveted awards conferred on them by leading government institutions, in the process shaming the BJP-led government. In public comments Ms Sehgal has gone to the extent of depicting the ideology of the present regime as “fascist”.
It is good to see that the Prime Minister has at last spoken. At a campaign rally in Bihar on Thursday, he commended the President’s remarks to the people, calling them “inspirational”, and “guidance” for the country. Better late than never. The country will, however, be waiting to see if Mr Modi is willing and able to ensure that the destructive brigade that has raised him to power pipes down, is given no leeway, and is punished if it strays out of line. He could begin with his ministers, and prominent MPs and party colleagues.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/151009/commentary-dc-comment/article/pm-modi-finally-breaks-his-silence
 
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