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Gandhi Jayanti: Do we have the moral right to celebrate?

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Gandhi Jayanti: Do we have the moral right to celebrate?
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Gandhi Jayanti: Do we have the moral right to celebrate? - Moneylife

Only when we in India shun violence in whatever form or shape for any purpose, we can get the moral right to celebrate Gandhi Jayanti



We need to question if we have the moral right to celebrate Gandhi Jayanti on 2nd October. We hardly pay any attention to what the Mahatma stood for. For how many Gandhiji (yes, the same Mahatma Gandhi or Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Father of the Nation) is a role model today? It would be better if we start a movement to stop declaring Gandhi Jayanti as a holiday.

In its place it would be more fitting to take up the challenge of implementing the lessons taught by Gandhiji all through 365 days. After showing our serious desire, we may then re-start celebrating Gandhi Jayanti. That way although it may sound like a dream, we can pay homage to him in a more meaningful way rather than just having one day to show movies, or give speeches, or pretend to do some charitable work and then completely ignore Gandhiji and his message the rest of the year.

Today there are at least nine major wars of different intensities being fought in the world—in Afghanistan, Columbia, South Sudan, Sudan, Iraq, Syria, the drug war in Mexico, Congo and North West Pakistan. In addition there is unrest in just about every country in the world resulting in violent conflicts and deaths.

In India itself we have Naxalite-related unrest in some parts of India which has resulted in violent deaths regularly at unpredictable intervals. Then we have sporadic violence unleashed by all the political parties in the name of helping the poor by calling Bharat Bandhs, threatening activists who dare to criticize their leaders, rasta rokos, stoppage of trains, burning public vehicles etc. Right to Information (RTI)-related murders are regularly reported. In short, a country which has given birth to an apostle of non-violence is becoming more violent. How can we then have the moral right to celebrate Gandhi Jayanti?

Our political leaders never fail to quote Gandhiji to justify their ‘peaceful’ protests of satyagrahas, bandhs, hunger strikes, etc. They forget that during Gandhiji’s times there was foreign rule and we did not have a voice in policy-making. If he were alive today, he would not have taken recourse to street protests the way our leaders do. Even when he protested he never allowed violent means to achieve his goals. He never treated his opponents as his enemies. He always explored ways of convincing them through non-violent ways. For him intolerance itself was form of violence.

Vivekananda pointed out that the greatest strength of India was spiritualism and we owed it to the world to spread it. It was that spiritualism which helped Gandhiji to demonstrate how non-violence can win any heart. What a shame it is that as the world is witnessing nine wars, we are unable to promote Mahatma’s lessons to stop them. This is because we have all but forgotten him, except on Gandhi Jayanti, or is it that we have devolved into a nation full of gutless hypocrites. Isn’t it interesting that it took a US president Obama to invoke Mahatma Gandhi in an attempt to urge protestors in the Middle East not to take recourse to violence to show their anger? Or is it that an Indian prime minister presiding over a cabinet of corrupt ministers feels that he has lost the moral right.

As the world is facing the twin tyrannies of energy crisis and global warming, India can be a shining example by promoting Gandhiji’s principle of simple living and high thinking. We can definitely reduce energy consumption by adapting energy saving technologies. But even more effective way of reducing energy is to eliminate the very exuberant affluence which results in consuming more energy.


If we want to practice Gandhiji’s teachings, we should not compare ourselves with the ‘developed’ world concerning the energy consumption. It is an accepted fact that the developed world is addicted to energy guzzling. We should try to go after the objective set for us by Mahatma to wipe tears from the eyes of the poor and hungry rather than the goal of the developed world to increase gross national product. That will lead to a different development path needing less energy.

For Mahatma, truth was God. Unfortunately what Gandhiji tried to promote is totally incompatible with the rampant corruption which is in the DNA of our political system today. As inheritors of Gandhiji’s legacy, one would have expected India to fight corruption on a war footing. Instead we seem to be tolerating corruption at all levels.

It is only after Anna Hazare’s fight that corruption has come to the national agenda. But we have a long way to go in starting an effective movement to remove corruption. If Martin Luther King in the US and Nelson Mandela in South Africa were inspired to wage a non-violent war for civil rights by Gandhiji’s teaching why we in India have not been able to produce political leaders to start a movement to eliminate or at least reduce corruption?

How many of us are familiar with Mahatma’s Hind Swaraj wherein he suggested that the rich should hold their wealth in a ‘trust’ for the benefit of the society. Warren Buffet and some of his wealthy friends are adopting Gandhiji’s principle. But our wealthy and that too those who are in the political field are amassing wealth not to hold in trust but for lavish display by celebrating weddings on grand scale, constructing palatial houses, accumulating gold and real estate, purchasing elections to earn some more money, stashing money abroad, etc. What message will they send when they celebrate Gandhi Jayanti?

It is high time that those of us, who claim to be admirers of Mahatma, develop a strategy to promote the lessons he taught to bring peace in war-torn countries in the world, to avoid violent bandhs, rasta rokos, bus burning, etc in India and to bring about energy sector reform to avoid global warming in the world. Only when we in India shun violence in whatever form or shape for any purpose, then we can get the moral right to celebrate Gandhi Jayanti.
 
One point to be seriously considered is stopping the holiday on this day. No useful purpose is served with this holiday.

Venkat K
 
While there s vast literature about Gandhi and his life ,I feel the following points sums up the essence of his life and teachings .For details go through the link given below .
Mahatma Gandhi: What we MUST learn from his life

Mahatma Gandhi: What we MUST learn from his life - Rediff Getahead

1)Look beyond yourself

'There is more to life than simply increasing its speed.'

2) Lead by example

'An ounce of practice is worth more than tons of preaching.'

3)Learn to forgive

'An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.'

4) Don't lose faith; be patient

'If patience is worth anything, it must endure to the end of time. And a living faith will last in the midst of the blackest storm.'

5)Be the change

'You must be the change you wish to see in the world
 
One point to be seriously considered is stopping the holiday on this day. No useful purpose is served with this holiday.

Venkat K

No Government will dare to do this .The Alternative is to see how best we can rediscover Gandhi's principles in our day to day life in current day context . The term "Gandhi Giri" became popular few years back with the Movie Lage Raho Munna Bhai and is a case in point .
 
I believe we should celebrate it, because each time we do, we remind ourselves and the rest of our nation of his accomplishments, his struggle and most importantly his message to the world. Without that, he'd be just a page in a history book. Knowing his struggle is more important today as current and future generations are born with minimal knowledge of those times; and soon kids will not even know the intense day-to-day issues of that time.
 
One point to be seriously considered is stopping the holiday on this day. No useful purpose is served with this holiday.

Venkat K
No, we need this holiday to remind us of the following:
In a country characterized by a central Government with a rudderless policy, this day reminds us: “ Were the efforts of the one man who led us out of political slavery all in vain, since, for the next 364 days, we plunge into political chaos and pathological despondency?”
 
How about Indians in Central Virginia.

"The Indian Community and the India Association of Virginia are honoring Gandhi by giving FeedMore a donation that will cover the cost of meals for one day in the Community Kitchen for the Meals on Wheels and Kids Cafe programs. What a wonderful way to honor someone who has made such an important contribution to mankind!

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Thanks to the Indian Community for all of their efforts and helping to feed more!

Maybe other groups and organizations could do something similar as we work together to efficiently and effectively fight hunger to enhance lives in our community.

Enjoy your day!

Kathleen Seal
Philanthropy Assistant
Central Virginia Food Bank and
Meals on Wheels Serving Central Virginia
working together to feed more
1415 Rhoadmiller Street
Richmond, VA 23220
Office: (804) 549-5671
Fax: (804) 521-2501
[email protected]
www.feedmore.org"
 
Gandhi's statue in Seattle’s Eastside, Washington

The installation of a statue of Mahatma Gandhi at the Bellevue Public Library … ...… a gift: a life-size bronze statue of Mahatma Gandhi, the Indian political and spiritual leader..... on the south lawn of the Bellevue Public Library, on the Eastside of Washington.

It's a recognition of a steadily growing link between India and Washington — and specifically, a link to the Eastside, where many Indians have made their homes after moving here for jobs in the software industry, and where the Indian consulate would like to open a fifth U.S. office.

For Indians, the bronze statue of Gandhi — striding forward, with a staff in his right hand — is a powerful symbol of India's quest for liberty and freedom by peaceful means, as well as a tangible sign of the community's embrace of its new home in Washington.

Anjali Sachdev, the director of the National Federation of Indian-American Associations, the largest U.S.-based Indian-American umbrella organization,.... was the driving force behind the Gandhi statue.

"It is a recognition that our city has become much more visible nationally, and even internationally," said Bellevue Mayor Grant Degginger.

Katherine Long
 
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In that case no one should celebrate any religious festivals itself cos very few of us live up to the ideals of life.

If we do not have the moral right to celebrate Gandhi Jayanthi then why should we have the moral right to celebrate Diwali,Krishna Jayanthi,Ram Navami,Navaratri etc?

We should only be celebrating our own Birthday!LOL
 
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Gandhi Jayanthi is an occasion for us to remember the architect of India's freedom from foreign yoke...

I was at Raj Ghat yesterday to pay homage to this great son of Mother India...The occasion was sombre...There was no slogan shouting...People waited in turns to pay their respect..There was a big crowd & lots of persons came to the Samadhi to worship him

If there was no holiday how can we pay our respects to our Father of the Nation...

Mahatma has left an indelible mark on each of our lives...Let us salute him on the occasion of Gandhi Jayanthi
 
Is this a way to respect Gandhi?
Times_of_india

In a symbolic protest, dalit and OBC students of Potti Sreeramulu Telugu University held a 'chicken festival' at Triveni Hostel on OU campus as a mark of their disagreement with Gandhi's 'ahimsa'. The festival was held in protest against ban on non-vegetarian food in the mess on Gandhi Jayanti. Students, who attended the function, stated that Gandhi by upholding 'Manusmrithi' had inflicted a form of violence against certain sections of the society.


The festival, which was attended by 100 students, was meant to reiterate the criticism levelled against Gandhi's 'casteist' ideas by B R Ambedkar. The programme was organised by Madiga Students' Federation (MSF), Bahujan Students' Front (BSF), SC/St Vidyarthi Sangham and Telangana Students' Association. The meeting was attended by students from OU and Eflu.
 
Is this a way to respect Gandhi?
Times_of_india

In a symbolic protest, dalit and OBC students of Potti Sreeramulu Telugu University held a 'chicken festival' at Triveni Hostel on OU campus as a mark of their disagreement with Gandhi's 'ahimsa'. The festival was held in protest against ban on non-vegetarian food in the mess on Gandhi Jayanti. Students, who attended the function, stated that Gandhi by upholding 'Manusmrithi' had inflicted a form of violence against certain sections of the society.


The festival, which was attended by 100 students, was meant to reiterate the criticism levelled against Gandhi's 'casteist' ideas by B R Ambedkar. The programme was organised by Madiga Students' Federation (MSF), Bahujan Students' Front (BSF), SC/St Vidyarthi Sangham and Telangana Students' Association. The meeting was attended by students from OU and Eflu.

The Dalit People's view of Gandhi is different from what rest of others feel about Gandhi . They feel Gandhi got political freedom for the country but did not fight for Dalits freedom from the Upper Caste domination .They consider Dr.BR Ambedkar as their savior and not Gandhi .
 
I guess some of us have not spoken to certain Individuals from a particular state in India which is famous for Bollywood film industry.

Some of them still glorify Nathuram Vinayak Godse.
 
I guess some of us have not spoken to certain Individuals from a particular state in India which is famous for Bollywood film industry.

Some of them still glorify Nathuram Vinayak Godse.

Every Assassin is ridiculed by some and glorified by some . Even some people in Tamil Nadu glorify the assassins of Rajiv Gandhi and many Sikhs glorify the Assassins of Indira Gandhi . There will always be these groups who have a different opinion from what the General public have .They have a right to have such a view and let us leave it at that .

Anyway coming back to Nathuram Godse . There were many parts of that case and the reasons why he killed Gandhi were suppressed to the General Public and only due to Internet we are able to get the actual facts of what he spoke .
The following site gives all the details of the same
Information about Nathuram Godse

Godse has a right to explain why he did what he did and he did so during his trial but they were suppressed to the people and now only through Internet we are having the complete picture of Godse's version .

There is a counter to what Godse and Co said and that is Given by Gandhi's followers here :

Assassination of Mahatma Gandhi : The Facts Behind .

Let people go through both the opinions to find out for themselves what is the clear picture .



Note : I am not glorifying the killing of Gandhi or Glorifying Godse .I consider no one has the right to kill another person whatever may be the political difference and those differences must be resolved politically or through dialogue .But let us judge a person or anything by first listening to what he is trying to say . This is not just with respect to this act but with regard to any act or any issue .
In the past I used to get trapped in what the News Papers or TV Channels said but only later realized that they were colored opinions as they were controlled by people from Behind who wanted only one particular way opinion to be conveyed .Now due to Internet we have diverse sources of forming our own opinions and hence I rely less on TV /News Papers for clear opinions on any topics .

This is the Mantra I follow in any topic before I make up my mind to comment on the same : " There are 2 sides to every story (coin). In a case of dissension, never dare to judge till you've heard the other side.- "Euripides said this 428 B.C .
 
This is the Mantra I follow in any topic before I make up my mind to comment on the same : " There are 2 sides to every story (coin). In a case of dissension, never dare to judge till you've heard the other side.- "Euripides said this 428 B.C .

hi

after some years ....people will worship gandhi pooja/abhishekam/archana etc.....like ram and krishna.....this is like mass

opium.....they will make ASHYOTARA SATA NAMAVALI TOO.... people start forgetting netaji/ sardar vallabhai patel....

there are many great unsung heros died never rememerbed.....only gandhi /nehru will remembered...its pity....
 
This is the Mantra I follow in any topic before I make up my mind to comment on the same : " There are 2 sides to every story (coin). In a case of dissension, never dare to judge till you've heard the other side.- "Euripides said this 428 B.C .

hi

after some years ....people will worship gandhi pooja/abhishekam/archana etc.....like ram and krishna.....this is like mass

opium.....they will make ASHYOTARA SATA NAMAVALI TOO.... people start forgetting netaji/ sardar vallabhai patel....

there are many great unsung heros died never rememerbed.....only gandhi /nehru will remembered...its pity....


Those were Pre Internet days when access to information were denied or suppressed .Now with Internet people have better access to understand the true picture of many things and if they are wise they must self educate themselves based on the diverse facts available from the internet and act accordingly .
 
some villify and some glorify. Both have their own reasons and justification. It is worth
reading godse's submission in court to understand his mind set and conviction.

It is not clear to me what the first sentence aims to convey.


I guess some of us have not spoken to certain Individuals from a particular state in India which is famous for Bollywood film industry.

Some of them still glorify Nathuram Vinayak Godse.
 
some villify and some glorify. Both have their own reasons and justification. It is worth
reading godse's submission in court to understand his mind set and conviction.

It is not clear to me what the first sentence aims to convey.

Yes I have read that before..he had his reasons.

Ok my 1st sentence is just giving a hint which state I was talking about.
You see I know this whole Gandhi Godse discussion can be sensitive in nature so I did not want to be too direct in my post.
 
I guess some of us have not spoken to certain Individuals from a particular state in India which is famous for Bollywood film industry.

Some of them still glorify Nathuram Vinayak Godse.
Renukaji

OK the state famous for Bollywood is Mumbai i.e Maharashtra State .
We must remember that Maharashtra is the seat of RSS , the Right Wing Hindu Organization which has its own version of what India is and how India must be Governed .Apart from Hindu Pride , they have a deep Martha Pride and people like Raj Thackery are now re-awakening the Maratha Pride in people .I do not know about Raj Thackery's opinion on Godse but Bal Thackery and Co are never apologetic about Glorifying Hindutva , Glorifying Godse etc .

Maharashtra has a history behind such feelings . First it was Chatrapati Shivaji , the great Maratha Warrior who rose in revolt against the Muslims and then in the early part of Freedom Struggle Bal Gangadhar Tilak, the great Maratha Politician was a Pro Hindutva person as well as a Marathi Brahmin and he had extremist views about how freedom struggle must go and there was a split in Congress between the Moderates and Extremists .He gave a new life to Ganesh Chaturti Celebrations by using it as a platform to awaken the spirit of Nationalism in people and that is why Ganesh Chaturti is still celebrated with great enthusiasm in Maharashtra .
Later Nathuram Godse , the Marathi Brahmin , was deeply upset by the continued concessions given to Muslims at the cost of Hindus that he killed Gandhi .
The same feelings now continue there only that it is taking a different political dimension . RSS does not subscribe to the pro Martha feelings of Raj Thackery and they feel Hindus should not be divided on language or regional basis . Raj Thackery is more concerned with Maratha Pride than Hindu Pride .


Note : I have made a correction between Maratha Brahmin and Marathi Brahmin and thanks to Renukaji for pointing this out .She has given an explanation for the same in another post .
 
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Recently one TV channel conducted apoll as to who is the greatest Indian "after" Shri.MK Gandhi. and the programme of selection was done live and it was shown that Dr.B.R.Ambedkar was selected as the greatest on a nation wide poll. The result was a surprise to me as i thought Patel or somebody else would be selected. . BTW lot of statues of shri.Ambedkar is erected all over TN and the irony is that all of them are inside a iron cage, to avoid miscreants damaging them!!! So in the poll the Iron man of India lost to the man in Iron..

cheers.
 
Recently one TV channel conducted apoll as to who is the greatest Indian "after" Shri.MK Gandhi. and the programme of selection was done live and it was shown that Dr.B.R.Ambedkar was selected as the greatest on a nation wide poll. The result was a surprise to me as i thought Patel or somebody else would be selected. . BTW lot of statues of shri.Ambedkar is erected all over TN and the irony is that all of them are inside a iron cage, to avoid miscreants damaging them!!! So in the poll the Iron man of India lost to the man in Iron..

cheers.
hi
if Sardar vallabh bhai patel was not as home minister..today's Hyderabad would be another capital of NIZAMSTHAN....like another

pakisthan within india and close to tamil nadu....another muslim country within india....its our fortunate that we got PATEL

AS OUR IRON MAN OF INDIA..... history always tell the truth......
 
Later Nathuram Godse , the Maratha Brahmin ,

Thank you sir but some small correction... I once made the similar spelling mistake as you did and a Marathi Brahmin friend gave me a detailed explanation on the difference between a Marathi and a Maratha.

Maratha is a separate caste by itself.

It is not really a term used to denote anyone from Maharasthra.

The Brahmins are known as Marathi Brahmins and Marathas are thought to be Kshatriyas.
 
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Thank you sir but some small correction... I once made the similar spelling mistake as you did and a Marathi Brahmin friend gave me a detailed explanation on the difference between a Marathi and a Maratha.

Maratha is a separate caste by itself.

It is not really a term used to denote anyone from Maharasthra.

The Brahmins are known as Marathi Brahmins and Marathas are thought to be Kshatriyas.

OK Renukaji

Thanks for this clarification .I will make the necessary changes in my post . I just wanted to say he belongs to Mahasrahtra and shortened that to Maratha but now got the difference .
 
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