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[FONT=q_serif]Saguna Brahman is Brahman conceived of as the Creator, Preserver and Destroyer of the Universe corresponding to Isvara. Advaita Vedanta, however, considers Nirguna Brahman as the only Reality. So what does Shankara think of Saguna Brahman? Shankara writes the following in his Brahma Sutra Bhasya III.II.14:[/FONT]
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'Hence in sentences of this kind, the formless Brahman alone, just as It is spoken of by the texts themselves, has to be accepted. But the other texts, speaking of Brahman with form, have injunctions about meditations as their main objectives. So long as they do not lead to some contradiction, their apparent meanings should be accepted. But when they involve a contradiction, the principle to be followed for deciding one or the other is that, those that have formless Brahman as their main purport are more authoritative than the others which have not that as their main purport. It is according to this that one is driven to the conclusion that Brahman is formless and not its opposite, though texts having both the purports are in evidence.'
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[FONT=q_serif]Thus as is clear from the above text, Saguna Brahman, Brahman with form actually does not exist since Brahman is really formless and it is described in Upanishadic texts only for the sake of meditation.

[/FONT]https://www.quora.com/What-is-Saguna-Brahman-in-Advaita-Vedanta

 

[prasad1]

[FONT=q_serif]Most Hindus are not steeped into Hindu philosophy. They are more concentrated on the outer exoteric aspects of Hinduism which are the Agama Shastras, Astrology and other various rituals like fasting etc. Worshipping an idol is not a wrong thing in Hinduism but it is wrong to worship a deity without recognizing the existence of Nirguna Brahman.[/FONT]

[FONT=q_serif]According to Isha Upanishad both Sambhuthi and Asambhuthi have to be equally worshipped.[/FONT]

andham tamah pravishanti ye asambhootim upaasate |
tato bhoya iva te tamo ya u sambhootyaam rataaha || 12 ||

anyadevaahuh sambhavaad anyadaahura sambhavaat |
iti shushruma dheeraaNaam ye nasta dvichachakshire || 13 ||

sambhootim cha vinaasham cha yastdvedobhayam saha |
vinaashena mrutyum teertvaa sambhootyaa amrutamashnute ||

If Hindus study the Vedas and the Upanishads I am quite sure this attitude can be changed and there will be no requirement for Idols or Temples. But not all of them have the same intellect to understand this and hence for them an Idol and a Temple is required. Both Nirguna and Saguna Upasana has to be done simultaneously. It is wrong to do only Nirguna Upasana or vice verse.

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-so-ma...aching-lack-somewhere-or-is-it-just-ignorance

 

[renuka]

God made hands and then hands made God.

Renukaji, this circular logic is quite confusing to most ordinary people. What came first, the chicken or the egg? Break the cycle, please.

Well..before egg or chicken there was DNA!

 

[zebra16]

Amarnath Temple

One of the most sacrosanct places in India as considered by the followers of Hindu religion, Amarnath temple is dedicated to worshipping Lord Shiva. It is located in the state of Jammu and Kashmir at a height of about 12,760 feet.

Devotees visit the Amarnath cave every year for getting a pious glimpse of Lingam of Lord Shiva which is believed to be formed naturally from ice. The temple is only accessible for a short duration during the year in the month of July to August, when the ice Lingam is formed.

The scene during the time is absolutely unbelievable and that makes people to believe in the sanctity of the place. From the top of the cave, water slowly trickles down which freezes to form ice, which after forming a solid base starts taking the shape of Shiva lingam and it acquires the complete shape on Purnima.



No prana pratishta needed.



Similarly, we worship River Ganga as Goddess.

The jyOtirlingams are svayambhus, hence no need of prANa prathishtam. Similarly there are certain exempt and ever present
symbols like sOnabhadra stones, sAligrAmams etc. which do not need prAna prathishtam.

One should not confuse man-made vigrahams with such things.

 

[prasad1]

The jyOtirlingams are svayambhus, hence no need of prANa prathishtam. Similarly there are certain exempt and ever present
symbols like sOnabhadra stones, sAligrAmams etc. which do not need prAna prathishtam.


One should not confuse man-made vigrahams with such things.

People start to pray to Man-made statues left under Banyan Tree, by the road side. No one does any Prana Pratista. But people have devotion and Bhakti towards that statue. I have seen Ganesh and Hanuman statues that have become revered by ordinary public. No one does any Daily poojas etc., but In Hinduism, it is accepted may not be according to Agama Sastra.


People also worship Pipal Tree, Tulsi Plant etc. It goes to show the depth of Hindu Faith.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

Looks Agama accept temples without idol and pray 'emptyness' like Chidambaram and Aavudiyar Koil - Shiva Temples but no Shiva Lingam.

 

[Brahmanyan]

I have been to the wonderful Temple of "Aavudayarkoil" thrice. This temple is unique in many things. There is no idol of main deity named "Athmanathar", no Navagrahas or Nandhikeswara. This temple was built by Saint Manickavasagar after he returned without purchasing the horses for the Pandya King. Later the statue of Saint Manickavasagar was opened in the temple by Thiruvavaduthurai Aatheenam .
It is believed that the Saint must have been influenced of Islam by the Muslim merchants who had come with horses to sell. He must have realised the truth of our Vedic religion, which do not worship idols. Saint has composed many of his hymns in
Chidambaram temple. The word
Chidambaram (சிற்றம்பலம்) comes from the Tamil word Chitrambalam (also spelled Chithambalam) meaning "conscious abode". The roots are citt means "consciousness ", while and "ambalam " means "abode".This composite word comes from its association with Shiva as Nataraja, the cosmic dancer and the cultural atmosphere for arts. Apart "Avudayarkoil" unlike other Hindu temples, this temple also follows "Vedic" worship, not the "Agamas". I am told some parts of Vedas chanted in "Uttarakosa Mangai" another place connected with Saint Manickavasagar.
I am not sure about many things told about Saint Manickavasagar, this subject needs proper research.
However the truth, the majestic Temple built by Saint Manickavasagar at Avudayarkoil (திருப்பெருந்துறை" is most beautiful temple, unique in many ways.
The image of Temple tower shown before my name is the picture of main Gopuram of Avudayarkoil.

Brahmanyan
Bangalore.