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Raji Ram madam

that is what I am telling, if a different path is taken, different results are possible,in the case you mentioned it is not rigid that that Boy should marry that Girl, or that girl should marry that boy.

Life always presents us choices and if a particular choice is taken you are bound to reach a particular destination;
now we are discussing about someone living a very tough life without job, is he to believe Astrology without trying any alternate solution to get a job?

As you already said, most astrologers are not accurate, and some predictions are not coming through; since you living in Chennai, you must have heard about the famous astrologer Parthasarathy of Triplicane; did he not die by committing suicide since his prediction about his own life is about to fail ?

No one can lead life based on Astrology and at best one can see it for some solace; i have never seen any astrologer leading a happy life.

You must have heard about Astrologer Lakshmanan, fearing adverse effect of reading others horoscope and predicting. he used to keep a well versed Sastrigal to recite some slokams for a few hours every day.

Most astrologers themselves do not lead a happy life , and they end facing severe health issues.

Astrology may not be a fraud science, but not 100 % pure science!!
 
Dear Shri.KUMARRA,
After going through your post ,I was recollecting my own life experience.
After it was decided that I will marry my maternal uncle's daughter,I showed her horoscope to my office colleague,a Maharastrian.He advised me not to marry that girl
as all the planets are surrounded by RAHU and KETU.Astrologers call it Rahu Sarpa Dosam..I married her and had a good married life.However,I used to have monetary problems
though I had a good job in Central Govt and got promoted to Class I service.
I had difficulty even to give decent education to my children.I had requested my second and fourth daughter to do graduation through distance education and take up jobs
when they completed 18 years of age.We were very economic in running the family without extravagant expenses.Still I used to have monetary problems and take recourse to
'GPF loans" to fill the gap.
My wife expired in 2003.Now I get decent pension with 20% increase (this benefit is given after completing 80 years of age).All my children are well settled.
Many times I feel that I am flooded with money which is of no use to me at this stage of my life.I help poor people who had assisted me/my family and feel happy.
So hope for better time and have patience.
B.Krishnamurthy
 
Dear Shri P.J,

Prediction of an astrologer may fail for the following reasons:

1) The interactions of the various aspects of a chart is very important. Consider two people who are intense competitors in business. Assume both have strong charts to succeed financially and one has really strong chart. So the stronger one would definitely prevail over the less strong one and the one who fails in spite of his strong chart is because of a strong opposing chart. It should have been possible to predict a strong business enemy and therefore diminished success but more often than not the whole picture is not seen by the astrologer. I think the inability to see the interactions of the various aspects of the chart causes many wrong predictions.

2. Astrologers capable but money minded though this is relatively rare. A really capable astrologer is generally not money minded.

3. Prediction even if done in an expert manner may not be true. This happens when larger factors than at the level of planetary influences on the person occur. There may be dynamic aspects of karma or maya which may not be factored in from studying the charts.

I do not want to lower astrology to the level of science. Its methods are not similar to those employed in science and results are derived from the study of a deeper spiritual level. As a sign of proof of genuineness of astrology, even if there is one good astrologer who can predict accurately most of the times, it speaks for the authenticity. I am sure there are a few astrologers who can do this.
 
Shri Sangom Sir,

Thanks for your reply and advice and of other members. Yes you are absolutely right the Astrologer is from Kerala Trivanduram he is not a professional for public, he is one of member of Kerala Astrolger and he was also committee member of Sree Padmanabhaswamy Temple and he was also one of the astrologer who conducted deva prasanam. Through a family friend and this astrologer his is Guru he approached him with a special case. And we were in touch with this person for for some time and all his prediction were right only my case he could not able to get any answer and just last week when we called up him just casually he talked to my wife for a very long time asking about all his family background, pooja the ritual etc which their family were doing but that time also he did not say anything and in point he got the answer and told about this. He has also written a Article about it which is in Malyalam but not published or posted in internet. And all thing which he has written is absolutely correct i.e he has given all fact & example in that any person who is having this problem will 100 % confirm all the incidence which he has written and this was also confirmed by other relative and one of our wife close friend who are also from Kerala with whom my wife discuss everything and give us good moral support and we shared this article she also confirmed it as 100% correct as she is also facing lot of problem not financially but in other way as their family member also do pooja of Bramaraksh in temple as my wife side do.

Bramaraksha don't effect only one family but entire family whether i.e Boy and Girl married or not married but it will effect only the Boy or Girl and their children and their generation and it will not affect their other family member that is why i asked the Question if after marriage Girls Gothra affect boy also if both Gothram is different. If Girl family is having some Dosham. Though he has not written how it effect other side but he has explained clearly with facts how it effect.


Since i can not share the article without his permission as he don't like publicity and further it is in Malayalam when we asked why not you translate in English & Tamil he simply refused for me and my selected disciple are satisfied with this and that makes me happy.

And till date neither has has asked or not we have given a singly penny to him when we asked about this he just telled the day you return to normal life and with a Good Job that itself would be my Dakshina as that day would make me also happy as their is nothing compared to happiness.


Thanks a Lot


Dear Shri Kumar,

Astrology is chiefly based on astronomy which is a mostly mathematical science, but prediction part of astrology is dependent mostly on belief systems. I shall recount to you two incidents from my life.

1. During the 1970's the younger sister of the maid who was assisting in my house and also in my father-in-law's house (our houses were in adjacent plots) became mad. (The real reason, as it turned out later, was that a police constable who was also into manthravaadam etc., was requested by our maid to cure her sister's menstrual complaint and that fellow took the opportunity to rape the girl and also threatened her with death if she did not keep her mouth shut. The tension caused by this plus our maid's great belief in that manthravaadi aggravated the condition of that young woman.) But we - myself and my father-in-law did not know this truth and, taking pity on our maid paying large sums of money to a manthravaadi, etc., we went to a jyosyan who was considered an expert. He conducted a "prasnam" and told us that the woman in question had several "baadhas" ranging from brahmarakshas to raktachaamundi to many other things. Since I knew a little bit about this "prasnam" part, we told him that the people were very poor and they would not be able to find such big moneys as he said would be required to exorcise all the "baadhas" from the body. I also asked him very politely one or two doubts bringing clearly that the prasnam after all revealed a lot of "daivaanugraham" for that woman.

The astrologer immediately changed his stand and told us that if only we had told him that the person was poor he would not have suggested such elaborate and costly exorcisms; he added that the normal human psychology is that if a person does a very costly "parihaaram" it gives a mental courage to face the difficulties more calmly and seek practical ways out of the difficult situation. He then suggested to us to buy one kilo of an ayurvedic preparation known as "saaraswatha ghritham", entrust it to the priest of a (then highly respected) Devi temple and request him to recite the moolamanthra of the devi, aksharalaksham times and then after paying Dakshina to the priest, the concerned woman should keep that bottle in a ritually pure (Shuddham) place in her house and take one spoonful in empty stomach every morning, and a few more details. To cut a long account short that woman took that ghritam ritually, was completely cured and was married as second wife to a small but prospering businessman, had two children, lived very happily and died a few years ago.

2. The second is in r/o my second son whose marriage was getting very delayed. My wife and I consulted a reputed astrologer here in Trivandrum who said that the delay was due to some family dosha of my wife and suggested some remedial measures. Since I did not at all believe in such family dosham from girl's family afflicting her children, after her marriage, I stoutly prevented any of the remedies being done but may be my wife might have been praying daily, which I could not stop. Ultimately my son advertised in the paper from Mumbai, where he was then working, selected a north-Indian girl whom he liked (and she also liked him) and married her. They have two sons now and are happily living abroad.

What I want to suggest, therefore, is that though it is normally a weakness among us tabras to consult an astrologer when there is any continuing difficulty in our life which we are unable to overcome by our efforts, but astrology need not always guide us very correctly and it is for us to think of practical measures to overcome those difficulties. If we tend to go purely by the astrologer's advice, we may get into a "chakkar" which may make our condition much worse.

Your present problem is that you are not getting a job despite your best efforts. The astrologer traces the cause to Brahmarakshas (by the way, you have written, "as she is also facing lot of problem not financially but in other way as their family member also do pooja of Bramaraksh in temple as my wife side do." Usually nobody does pooja of brahmarakshas/brahmarakshas alone in any temple.So, I am surprised by this. Can you give some more details?). I will advise you to forget about this point and consult some reliable friends about how you can increase your chances of getting a job - any job should be considered OK - and whether this can be helped by taking steps such as your learning something new, changing your place of residence from Delhi to some other place where your existing knowledge and experience may have more job opportunities, can your wife also try for and take up some employment, etc. Only such pragmatic steps will help us, sometimes, in our difficult periods.

Please try to think along such practical lines and make effort to forget completely the brahmarakshas, astrologer, etc.

Note: Can you kindly send that Malayalam article to me at my e-mail id: [email protected]
 
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Is that a modernistic or a fatalistic suggestion? :-)

It is a pragmatic suggestion, not 'modernistic'; if Shri Kumar complies with it it may become a 'fatalistic' one. That is how "fate" works in each human life, I think.
 
Dear Shri P.J,

Prediction of an astrologer may fail for the following reasons:

1) The interactions of the various aspects of a chart is very important. Consider two people who are intense competitors in business. Assume both have strong charts to succeed financially and one has really strong chart. So the stronger one would definitely prevail over the less strong one and the one who fails in spite of his strong chart is because of a strong opposing chart. It should have been possible to predict a strong business enemy and therefore diminished success but more often than not the whole picture is not seen by the astrologer. I think the inability to see the interactions of the various aspects of the chart causes many wrong predictions.

2. Astrologers capable but money minded though this is relatively rare. A really capable astrologer is generally not money minded.

3. Prediction even if done in an expert manner may not be true. This happens when larger factors than at the level of planetary influences on the person occur. There may be dynamic aspects of karma or maya which may not be factored in from studying the charts.

I do not want to lower astrology to the level of science. Its methods are not similar to those employed in science and results are derived from the study of a deeper spiritual level. As a sign of proof of genuineness of astrology, even if there is one good astrologer who can predict accurately most of the times, it speaks for the authenticity. I am sure there are a few astrologers who can do this.

sravana Sir

Apart from predictions based on planetary positions at the time of Birth, what Astrologers can not see, is the person's POORVA JANMA KARMA or PALAN

If two babies are born in the same place and and at the same time, their life will not be identical due to their Previous Birth Karma or Palan

This portion no one can see, and that is why unexpected things happen in one's life.

That is why some astrologers themselves say there is daiva ( Deiva Sankalpam ) which can change any prediction;also puraskara , that is fate and individual energy which can modify even the hardest time in our life.

Reg Horoscope compatibility etc, i think the subject was discussed in this Forum and many agreed that there is no necessity to compare horoscopes for compatibility.

In the whole world, only Hindus, that too not majority of them, consult horoscope for every thing including finalizing marriages, probably very small percentage compared the whole world population.
 
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I am not a good astrologer at all, but I have learnt a little bit of it. If you can give the time, date and place of birth in respect of yourself and your wife, may be I can judge how far your astrologer's analysis is correct.
This what Prasad1 has said.I have lot of books on Astrlogy in Tamil Sanskrit Grantham and English.and studied them well.Since I have poor memory I do not resort to that profession.I am of the openion that we cannot find a perfect astrologer nowadays as every one of them says they know some thing.Astrology is not some thing It is a whole thing.
 
This what Prasad1 has said.I have lot of books on Astrlogy in Tamil Sanskrit Grantham and English.and studied them well.Since I have poor memory I do not resort to that profession.I am of the openion that we cannot find a perfect astrologer nowadays as every one of them says they know some thing.Astrology is not some thing It is a whole thing.

Shri wrongan,

There is a Tamil saying பலமரம் கண்ட தச்சன் ஒரு மரமும் வெட்டான். Hence, owning a lot of astrology books in different languages and having studied them well need not necessarily mean that one can make good predictions.

A perfect astrologer, just like a perfect guru or perfect doctor, is humanly impossible and one has to settle for the best available only. Astrology also has its own shortcomings. For example rahu and ketu did not figure in very early astrology. Trikona lords were considered to be always beneficial. Plus, one finds many, many inconsistencies between Tamil method and the northern method (like உச்சமான வியாழன் பிச்சை எடுக்க வைப்பான் etc.). My writing that "I am not a good astrologer at all, but I have learnt a little bit of it."was to ensure that the person at the other end does not get an impression that he has consulted a professional astrologer who "holds out" to the public that he will be able to make good predictions and in case he - like you & Prasad - takes it to mean that "I am a bad astrologer", then so be it!!
 
This what Prasad1 has said.I have lot of books on Astrlogy in Tamil Sanskrit Grantham and English.and studied them well.Since I have poor memory I do not resort to that profession.I am of the openion that we cannot find a perfect astrologer nowadays as every one of them says they know some thing.Astrology is not some thing It is a whole thing.

Dear sangom please go through my post again I have nowhere said that i can give correct predictions,but informed my inability on that.Secondly I have given my views generally and nowhere I have mentioned about you I feel there is no point in taking it to yourself.
 
Dear sangom please go through my post again I have nowhere said that i can give correct predictions,but informed my inability on that.Secondly I have given my views generally and nowhere I have mentioned about you I feel there is no point in taking it to yourself.

Sangomji,
I never said you were a bad astrologer. I do not believe in astrology. What i said was that there is one in a billion chance of accurately predicting anything definitive in astrology. It is good way to spend idle time, as long as you do not give false hope and wrong advice.
 
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