history of padasaram?

[Liju]

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Could anyone tell the history of padasaram?
who invented that? for whom? and what it resembles?

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

If my guess is correct, someone wants you to buy a pair of padasaram.

So there is no need to go into the history and mystery of the kolusu.

Just buy a pair and hand it over soon - before someone else does it

and throws you out of the rat-race!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

costlier and noisier models!!!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Simpler and cheaper models!!!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

available in the color of gold too!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

For cute little chubby babies!!!

 

[Brahmanyan]

Dear Mrs Visalakshi Ramani,

Very good photos of Kolusu. I am told that Kolusu and Minji ( மிஞ்சி) made of Gold is the preserve of Goddesses
and Ladies of Royal families . I have some good friends among the erstwhile Royal families who had affirmed
the above belief. Interestingly the surnames of these Royal ladies end with "Rajya Lakshmi".

Warm regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Sir,
Namaste! ray2:
You have friends in many circles!
Those ladies must feel like royal queens and
real queens for being Raajya Lakshmis!!!
I was told that below the waist women should wear
only silver jewels and never gold jewels.
Is that true sir?

 

[Brahmanyan]

History of Padasaram.

Dear Mrs Visalakshi Ramani,

Yes, that is one reason I have also heard about wearing gold jewellery. I am told Gold should not be used
below "Oddiyanam" (ஒட்டியாணம் - மேகலை). Perhaps it is the high traditional value we give to the metal.
Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[Raji Ram]

For those who can read Tamil, here is an interesting page to read:

கொலுசு - தமிழ் விக்கிப்பீடியா

This fashion of wearing anklets started about 4000 years back in Mesopotamia by Sumerians.

Ancient Egyptians too wore anklets.

The history:

"சுமார் நாலாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன் மெசப்படோமியாவில் வாழ்ந்த சுமேரியர்கள் கொலுசை பயன்படுத்தியதாக

அறிகிறோம். பழங்காலத்தில் எகிப்தியர்கள் கால் பாத அணி அணிந்துள்ளதாகத் தெரிகிறது. வசதி படைத்தவர்கள்

இந்தப் பாத அணிகலனில் ஜாதிக் கற்களைப் பதித்து அணிந்தார்களாம். பல காலம் முன்பு மத்திய கிழக்கு நாடுகள்

முழுவதும் பெண்கள் தங்கள் இரண்டு கால்களிலும் பாத அணிகலன்களை அணிந்து அவற்றை ஒரு சங்கிலியால்

இணைத்து விடுவது உண்டாம். இது குறுகிய அடி வைத்து நடக்க மேற்கொள்ளப்படும் பயிற்சியாம். இந்திய

நடனமாதர்கள் தங்கள் அங்க அசைவுகளுக்கேற்ப இனிய ஒலி எழுப்பும் கால் சலங்கை என்ற அணிகலனை

அணிந்தார்கள். இது போல மத்திய கிழக்கு நாடுகளில் வயிற்றசைவு நடனமாடும் மங்கைகள் கூட நுண்ணிய

வேலைப்படமைந்த கொலுசுகளை அணிந்தார்கள். அமெரிக்காவில் கொலுசு அணியும் வழக்கம் 1950 ஆம்

ஆண்டுகளில் ஏற்பட்டது."

 

[Raji Ram]

Information in English: Anklet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Mrs Visalakshi Ramani,

Yes, that is one reason I have also heard about wearing gold jewellery. I am told Gold should not be used
below "Oddiyanam" (ஒட்டியாணம் - மேகலை). Perhaps it is the high traditional value we give to the metal.
Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

Dear Sir,
Namaste! ray2:
In good old days it was common to give away 100 sovereigns of gold to the daughters.
The megalai would weigh 25 to 30 sovereigns, a huge kaasu maalai 25 to 30 sovereigns
and the thaalik kodi ~10 sovereigns and the other nuts and screws for the nose, ear, hair etc
I overheard in the small gold shop where I had gone to get a stone( which fell off ) re-fixed in my nose ring.
A tiny ear drops of 2 grams was costing Rs. 7K!
It was paper thin or even wafer thin. I won't last for more than a few months. Again while exchanging 1/4 of the cost will be lost in wastage and making charges!

 

[Raji Ram]

Did anyone read the history of kolusu from the links I gave? :noidea:

 

[Raji Ram]

Gold is considered as Lakshmi Devi and hence should not be worn as anklets on legs.

May be Goddesses can wear them! Now it is a fashion to wear gold polished anklets.

V R maam has already posted the pictures.

 

[Raji Ram]

I found a page very interesting. Sharing it here for those who can read Tamil fonts.

There are five varieties of jewels for ankles of which one is 'pAdhasaram'.

"எந்த அணிகலனை எங்கே அணிவதென்பதற்குச் சில குறிப்புக்கள்:

விரல்களில் கணையாழி

காலுக்கு பாதசரம், நூபுரம், பாடகம், சதங்கை, அரியகம்

தொடைக்கு குறங்குச்செறி

ஆடையின் மேல் மேகலையாக பருமுத்தின் கோவை முப்பத்திரண்டாற் செய்த விரிசிகை என்னும் அணி

தோள்களுக்கு அழகான கண்டிகையோடு பின்னிக் கட்டிய தூயமணி செறிந்த தோள்வளை

கைகளில் மணிக்க மணிகளுடன் வைரங்கள் அழுத்தப்பட்ட சித்திரத் தொழிற்பாடு அமைந்த சூடகமும்,

செம்பொன்னால் செய்த கைவளையும், நவமணியும் வளையும், சங்கினாற் செய்த வளையும், பலவாகச்

செய்த பவழ வளைகள்,

கை விரல்களில் வாளை மீன் திறந்த வாயைப் போன்று நெளியும் முடக்கு மோதிரம், ஒளிமிக்க செந்நிறம்

விளங்கும் மாணிக்க மோதிரம், பக்கத்தே வளைந்து திரையும் ஒளியை உடைய மகரத் தாள் செறி என்னும்

அணி,

கழுத்தில் வீரசங்கிலி, பூணப்படும் சரம், புனையப்பட்ட தொழிலினை உடைய முத்து ஆரம்,

காதின் உட்புறத்தில் இந்திர நீலத்துடன் இடையிடையே திரண்ட வைரத்தால் கட்டப்பட்ட அழகு பெற்ற

குதம்பை என்னும் அணி,

தலைக்கு செழுநீர், வலம்புரி, தொய்யகம், புல்லகம் ஆகியவை."


Source: பழந் தமிழக பொன் நகைகள்.

 

[Brahmanyan]

Dear Sir,
Namaste! ray2:
In good old days it was common to give away 100 sovereigns of gold to the daughters.
The megalai would weigh 25 to 30 sovereigns, a huge kaasu maalai 25 to 30 sovereigns
and the thaalik kodi ~10 sovereigns and the other nuts and screws for the nose, ear, hair etc

Dear Mrs Visalakshi Ramani,

Namaste,

This reminds me of my Grandmother's schooling in Coimbatore. My maternal Grand mother was the only daughter in a rich family. She told me that she had been to school and studied upto third or fourth class. Her father arranged to send a peon (சேவகன் ) to escort her to and fro during her schooling days just to take care of the heavy jewellery she was decked with. She used to speak about several names of the ornaments she wore which I am afraid have vanished from our vocabulary now. I am only sorry that I have not noted them when she mentioned.

Warm Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Mrs Visalakshi Ramani,

Namaste,

This reminds me of my Grandmother's schooling in Coimbatore. My maternal Grand mother was the only daughter in a rich family. She told me that she had been to school and studied upto third or fourth class. Her father arranged to send a peon (சேவகன் ) to escort her to and fro during her schooling days just to take care of the heavy jewellery she was decked with. She used to speak about several names of the ornaments she wore which I am afraid have vanished from our vocabulary now. I am only sorry that I have not noted them when she mentioned.

Warm Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

dear sir,
Namaste! ray2:
You have revealed the origin of the black/gray/blue cats!!! :clap2:

It dates back to your grandmother's time!!!

Even if he was called as a sevagan and went around in multi.

With the price of gold soaring higher than our satellite system,

it is good that all those words and names are forgotten.

We women will NOT covet for things we know nothing about! :thumb:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

I found a page very interesting. Sharing it here for those who can read Tamil fonts.

There are five varieties of jewels for ankles of which one is 'pAdhasaram'.

"எந்த அணிகலனை எங்கே அணிவதென்பதற்குச் சில குறிப்புக்கள்:

விரல்களில் கணையாழி

காலுக்கு பாதசரம், நூபுரம், பாடகம், சதங்கை, அரியகம்

தொடைக்கு குறங்குச்செறி

ஆடையின் மேல் மேகலையாக பருமுத்தின் கோவை முப்பத்திரண்டாற் செய்த விரிசிகை என்னும் அணி

தோள்களுக்கு அழகான கண்டிகையோடு பின்னிக் கட்டிய தூயமணி செறிந்த தோள்வளை

கைகளில் மணிக்க மணிகளுடன் வைரங்கள் அழுத்தப்பட்ட சித்திரத் தொழிற்பாடு அமைந்த சூடகமும்,

செம்பொன்னால் செய்த கைவளையும், நவமணியும் வளையும், சங்கினாற் செய்த வளையும், பலவாகச்

செய்த பவழ வளைகள்,

கை விரல்களில் வாளை மீன் திறந்த வாயைப் போன்று நெளியும் முடக்கு மோதிரம், ஒளிமிக்க செந்நிறம்

விளங்கும் மாணிக்க மோதிரம், பக்கத்தே வளைந்து திரையும் ஒளியை உடைய மகரத் தாள் செறி என்னும்

அணி,

கழுத்தில் வீரசங்கிலி, பூணப்படும் சரம், புனையப்பட்ட தொழிலினை உடைய முத்து ஆரம்,

காதின் உட்புறத்தில் இந்திர நீலத்துடன் இடையிடையே திரண்ட வைரத்தால் கட்டப்பட்ட அழகு பெற்ற

குதம்பை என்னும் அணி,

தலைக்கு செழுநீர், வலம்புரி, தொய்யகம், புல்லகம் ஆகியவை."


Source: பழந் தமிழக பொன் நகைகள்.

WOW!!! The queens and their sedis must have been busy through out the day!!!

First wearing all these in their appropriate spots - which might take morn to noon.

Then removing them and storing them safe -which might take from dusk to night!!! :faint:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Did anyone read the history of kolusu from the links I gave? :noidea:

Not yet dear Raji.
I had to go for blood sugar test
both fasting and P.P.
Shall read it before I hit the sack tonight!

 

[Liju]

Hi,
Thank you for the pictures, no one asked me to gift them a kolusu/padasaram, i just want to know about padasaram thats all.
i heard some rumors that the padasaram were used by rambha, Oorvasi and all to symbolize that they are unclean, i cant understand this, then why are our ladies wearing these thats why i asked what this padasaram resemles or is ther any meaning for wearing this padasaram

regards
Liju

 

[Liju]

i had read it but it doesnt say anything about the meaning of padasram in hindu culture.also it says the meaning in some "cuckold community". dont about its reliabilityregardsLiju

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Hi,
Thank you for the pictures, no one asked me to gift them a kolusu/padasaram, i just want to know about padasaram thats all.
i heard some rumors that the padasaram were used by rambha, Oorvasi and all to symbolize that they are unclean, i cant understand this, then why are our ladies wearing these thats why i asked what this padasaram resemles or is ther any meaning for wearing this padasaram

regards
Liju

The job of the celestial maidens like Rambha, Oorvasi, Thilothama etc is to sing, dance and keep all the Devas happy.

They are not unclean but they are not chaste either. They are common property for all the Devas.

Too much of jingling will attract the attention of male members - unless it is worn during a dance performance, where it become essential.

Nothing is unclean as long as our mind remains clean.

 

[prasad1]

Nothing is unclean as long as our mind remains clean.

Very profound statement.

 

[P.J.]

This post is only a suggestion based on other sources, members can have their own opinions and practice.

Why women should not wear Gold Ornaments below their waist:

Atharva Veda says that gold comes from Agni Deva. Sun God is in Gold. Moon-god is in Gold with lustre. May be with this reason the gold ornament is used only above waist.

There is only one exception. The leg ornaments of temple deities are gold.

Even great kings and very rich in Bharath did not have golden chappals.

On wearing gold some information are shared as below.

1) Advantages of wearing Gold:

Atharva veda, Kandam (Book) 19, Suktam 26, Verse 1;

"अग्‍ने: प्रजातं परि यत्‌ हिरण्‍यम्‌
अमृतं दघ्रे अधि मर्त्‍येषु ।
य एनव्‍देद स इदेनमर्हति
जरामृत्‍युर्भवति यो बिभर्ति ।।"

This means that, I adorn gold created or orginated from fire which bestows eternity. One who adorns it is liberated from the fear of untimely death.

Atharva veda, Kandam (Book) 19, Suktam 26 (all the Four Verses) Translation from Ralph T.H. Griffith, [1895]


1 Gold that was born from Fire is immortal hath been deposited
with mortal creatures.
He who knows this deserves to own this jewel, and in extreme
old age dies he who wears it.

2 The men of ancient time with children round them longed for
this Gold, bright with the Sun's own colour,
This shall endow thee, as it shines, with splendour, and long
shall be the life of him who wears it.

3 Long life and splendour let it bring energy and strength to thee.
That thou mayst shine among the folk with all the brightness of
the Gold.

4 What Varuna the King knows well, and what the God
Brihaspati,
And Indra, Slayer of the Foe, may that bestow long life on thee,
may that increase thy splendid strength.

2) Adorning gold ornaments in the upper part of the body:

In the ancient tradition of adorning ornaments, an important point is that gold ornaments are adorned above the waist. The spiritual reason for this is that gold ornaments have predominance of the Absolute Fire Principle. Through this one is protected from the negative energies active in the direction 8 to 10 feet upwards from the ground. Also, due to gold the negative energies have distress.

3) Spiritual science underlying adorning silver ornaments below the waist:

Silver has more ability to absorb the raja predominant, Chaitanya laden desire frequencies. By adorning silver ornaments below the waist, the woman is protected from the distressing Absolute Earth and Water Element frequencies emitted from Hell. In this way by adorning silver anklets, the negative energies cannot enter a woman’s body easily. Similarly she is protected by all the ornaments like griddle, toe rings etc.



Please also read from the link below to know the Significance of Women/men wearing different types of ornaments in different parts of the body.

http://indyas.hpage.co.in/unknow-facts-about-hindu-religion_9526511.html

Why are gold ornaments worn in the upper part of the body? | Achardharma (Practicing Dharma)

Atharva Veda: Book 19: Hymn 26: A hymn accompanying investiture with an amulet of gold

 

[Liju]

The job of the celestial maidens like Rambha, Oorvasi, Thilothama etc is to sing, dance and keep all the Devas happy.

They are not unclean but they are not chaste either. They are common property for all the Devas.

Too much of jingling will attract the attention of male members - unless it is worn during a dance performance, where it become essential.

Nothing is unclean as long as our mind remains clean.

Thank u for the reply, but i think if our mind is clean then we'l be able to identify the clean thing and unclean things.
Do let me know if u come across with the meaning of padasaram ok
bye tk
regards............