I C and I R weddings!

[Raji Ram]

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Dear Krish Sir,

Many of us have many more years to reach 70!! :lol:

 

[Rudhran]

Some may think that one rarely get punching bags...

Why not make best use of it..

Like some one coming here quite often and drifting from the main topic to Tamil Brahmins, Tamil Brahmins to Tamil Poets and compare Tamil Poets with other religion poets, learning Hindi, etc etc

It is all in this thread which is nothing but a Masala now getting GARAM Masala..lol

Some make best use of the opportunity to brag about themselves now and then

We do have such members .... making best use of the site for promotion of their own image.

Except IC & IR weddings, one can find most of the postings are quite irrelevant in this thread.

As such any one is free to talk anything and there is absolutely no ethics followed.

But can find some come here and talk like a Sadhu and preach like to Yogi.lol

 

[Raji Ram]

http://m.huffingtonpost.in/2017/04/...y-likes-to_a_22025362/?utm_hp_ref=in-homepage

I have no idea whether the sample size is big or whether it is devoid of any bias etc but this is what the survey results are on inter-caste and inter-religious marriages: ...........

So, pan India, less than 5% of IC and IR marriages. All the gyan we hear about revolutionary youth etc in this forum may be taken with a grain of salt!

The link that is given by K B Sir may bring a smile to the orthodox brahmins.

But, I wonder whether this data has to be taken with a tablespoon of salt!

 

[renuka]

Lol.

Only card that did not get played yet -age card.

Those in seventies playing with those in eighties.

May be those hitting ninety shortly can be given free penalty runs or goal hits.

How very thoughtful of renukaji ?

When house doctor says anything , we obey.

Yes..I am a Karunasagar..full of compassion.LOL

 

[renuka]

Some may think that one rarely get punching bags...

Why not make best use of it..

Like some one coming here quite often and drifting from the main topic to Tamil Brahmins, Tamil Brahmins to Tamil Poets and compare Tamil Poets with other religion poets, learning Hindi, etc etc

It is all in this thread which is nothing but a Masala now getting GARAM Masala..lol

Some make best use of the opportunity to brag about themselves now and then

We do have such members .... making best use of the site for promotion of their own image.

Except IC & IR weddings, one can find most of the postings are quite irrelevant in this thread.

As such any one is free to talk anything and there is absolutely no ethics followed.

But can find some come here and talk like a Sadhu and preach like to Yogi.lol

Dear Sir..Kya irrelevant posts yaar...you are very active in Garam Masala posts mostly.

Have Gun Will Travel and you too fire away.

Sathyam Vada...you do enjoy Garam Masala too.

So enjoy life...why hold back...ENCOUNTER!!

But I am being considerate to older members just in case it stresses them up.

 

[krish44]

Delhi metro put up special porn treat at 8 30 am at rajiv chowk station screen .

All enjoyed .

No caste or religious discrimination.

Anyone there at 8.30 am watched .

I believe they were testing the functionality of the TV screen.

Some would like to play the age card when they do not qualify under that head.

You have to be in indian capital to enjoy life to the fullest.

We have municipal elections next week .

Four women belonging to BJP,Congress, AAP and swaraj india are pitted against each other in my consituency.

I will vote for anyone who knocks on my door first and asks for my vote.

I had voted sisodia who asked me for it for assembly election .

He was my neighbour down the road at that time.

Let us see who comes knocking?

 

[Rudhran]

Dear Sir..Kya irrelevant posts yaar...you are very active in Garam Masala posts mostly.

Have Gun Will Travel and you too fire away.

Sathyam Vada...you do enjoy Garam Masala too.

So enjoy life...why hold back...ENCOUNTER!!

But I am being considerate to older members just in case it stresses them up.

Doctor Mam,

You mean to say that you are very active only in Scholarly discussions.

One can observe that you are also the most active member in most of the Masala Postings.

For example Managatti... Vengayam....etc etc

It is surprising that you people talk about age all of a sudden.

When it comes to writing why age matters.....?

What next....?

You are considerate to old member and this may a polished version.

The fact may be that you are favourable and supportive to them because you are biased.

Aahu satyam hi paramam dharmam dharmavidO janaah.

 

[renuka]

Doctor Mam,

You mean to say that you are very active only in Scholarly discussions.

One can observe that you are also the most active member in most of the Masala Postings.

For example Managatti... Vengayam....etc etc

It is surprising that you people talk about age all of a sudden.

When it comes to writing why age matters.....?

What next....?

You are considerate to old member and this may a polished version.

The fact may be that you are favourable and supportive to them because you are biased.

Aahu satyam hi paramam dharmam dharmavidO janaah.

Dear sir..spot on!

I am the Masala Queen who can also handle any sort of discussion from spirituality to mannangativity.
A rare talent indeed.

I am not bragging..I am being truthful here.

Yes you are right..I am biased cos I have a soft corner for you.

 

[renuka]

Delhi metro put up special porn treat at 8 30 am at rajiv chowk station screen .

All enjoyed .

No caste or religious discrimination.

Anyone there at 8.30 am watched .

I believe they were testing the functionality of the TV screen.

Some would like to play the age card when they do not qualify under that head.

You have to be in indian capital to enjoy life to the fullest.

We have municipal elections next week .

Four women belonging to BJP,Congress, AAP and swaraj india are pitted against each other in my consituency.

I will vote for anyone who knocks on my door first and asks for my vote.

I had voted sisodia who asked me for it for assembly election .

He was my neighbour down the road at that time.

Let us see who comes knocking?

I just saw that clip..a friend from Delhi sent it to me.

 

[Rudhran]

You have to be in indian capital to enjoy life to the fullest.

That may be sweeping statement of a biased mind

While my mind was considering the above statement, some news about protests of parents at Delhi comes to my mind.

Thank God I am not one among them.. God saved me... may be this is a sample case who speaks speaking more about the plight of parents at Delhi.

[h=1]Noida: No exemption from fee payment for protesting parents, says DPS[/h]

[h=2]Parents of the students rusticated have not paid the school fee for the entire year and have been demanding that the school management roll back the hike and the annual charges of ₹27,300.(Sunil Ghosh/HT File Photo[/h]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The management of Delhi Public School (DPS) Gautam Budh Nagar, on Thursday struck a stern note on the issue of hiked fee, the resultant parents’ protest and the recent rustication of 45 students. The school principal said they will not make any exemption for ‘disgruntled and adamant’ parents.

Earlier this week, DPS had kept the results of over 60 children on hold for delay in payment of school fees and annual charges by their parents. The school management had hiked the school fees by 14% in the beginning of the 2016-2017 academic session, and a group of parents had been protesting since.

Read more at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/noida...ts-says-dps/story-4ejzzkhIe7ohpGLKfPiSWL.html
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[h=1]Parents, police clash during protest against fee hike by 40 top private schools in Gurgaon[/h]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/parents-protest-against-fee-hike-by-40-top-private-schools-in-gurgaon/story-4qwNtAaV7GTaVGruUfXZZM.html

 

[Rudhran]

Dear sir..spot on!

I am the Masala Queen who can also handle any sort of discussion from spirituality to mannangativity.
A rare talent indeed.

I am not bragging..I am being truthful here.

Yes you are right..I am biased cos I have a soft corner for you.

Doctor Mam,

I am not here to judge others.

But I know for certain that this Forum does not have any method of awarding Medals, Rewards, Commendation Certificate etc in recognition of the talents to recommend.

Here all are one and the same.

A newbie or a veteran.

I know there are veterans possessing great knowledge remaining silent and there are few with superficial knowledge making more noise.

Thou Art that.

 

[krish44]

Who told these parents to opt for schools which charge fancy fees?

DPS is a label which parents want and not pay for it.

Their results are not that extra ordinary.

In fact one of their other branches in delhi has a drug issue.

DPS offers a franchise to use their brand name in other states of india.

All schools in delhi offer CBSE or ICSE curriculam.

Those who have ICSE curriculam carry the international tag and over charge also.

One can get similar CBSE education in hundreds of schools including municipal schools.

There is another elite school called sanskriti floated just to accomodate children of senior central govt officers.They have a huge Govt funding.

We have many kendriya vidyalayas offering decent education.

Many would like to have convent tag and opt for schools run by missionaries.

Even we have a convent sounding named school run by RSS sympathiser.

Options are unlimited.

People with false pride get stuck with schools that fleece.

When I studied in Tamil school in delhi, I had nil tuition fees as there were another two siblings studying in same school.

I did not pay for my education.

Nor did I learn much.

Thats another story.

 

[renuka]

Doctor Mam,

I am not here to judge others.

But I know for certain that this Forum does not have any method of awarding Medals, Rewards, Commendation Certificate etc in recognition of the talents to recommend.

Here all are one and the same.

A newbie or a veteran.

I know there are veterans possessing great knowledge remaining silent and there are few with superficial knowledge making more noise.

Thou Art that.

Then both of us are guilty of making a tremendous amount of noise...at least we both have something in common.

 

[Raji Ram]

Then both of us are guilty of making a tremendous amount of noise...at least we both have something in common.

Dear Renu,
One veteran used to get upset when bold fonts were used! He considered it as verbal shouting!! :horn:

 

[krish44]

The combination sounds interesting.

We shall watch the progress closely.lol

 

[S Narayanaswamy Iyer]

"God has made them -- lesbians, gays, bi-sexuals, and trans-sexuals -- abnormal and we should never mock at them."

Did God do that?

Which God? Jehovah of the Jews? Jesus of the Christians? Allah of the Muslims? The "muppaththi mukkodi" gods in Hinduism? Shiva? Vishnu? Amman? Ganapathi? Aadithyan? Kumaaran? Navagrahams? Ashta-dik devathaas?

Want to know what the Bible and the Acts of the Apostles say? Jehovah and Christ did NOT create them so. Please see:-

(1) Leviticus 18: 22 -- Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, it is detestable.
(2) Leviticus 20:13 -- If a man lies with a man as with a woman both of them have committed an abomination; they shall unquestionably be put to death.
(3) John 5.14 -- Jesus never said, "Go your way, your sin is okay." Rather he said, "Go and sin no more."
(4) Corinthians 6:9-11 -- Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Neither will those who commit sexual immorality, adultery, homosexuality.
(5) Timothy 1:10 -- Sexual immorality and committing homosexuality is contrary to sound doctrine.
(6) Jude 1:7 - Residents of Sodom and Gomprrah and surrounding cities which indulged in sexual immorality such as sodomy and homosexuality and pursued unnatural desires undergo punishment by eternal fire.
(7) 2 Kings 14:24 -- There were also cult prostitutes in the land, both men and women. They committed abominations and the Lord drove them out (into he barren desert) before the people of Israel (who presumably killed them).
(8) James 1:13-15 -- Let no one say that he is tempted. Or, "I am tempted by God." For God cannot be tempted with evil, and He Himself tempts no one. Each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

Nowhere in the Quran that I can identify does it explicitly say that lesbianism and homosexuality is permitted on earth. In Heaven, as reward for being a good Muslim on earth, especially a martyr, that is a different matter.

Now we come to our own sacred scriptures.

Except for the single instance of Shiva-Mohini (Vishnu as a woman) congress, which produced Ayyappa (Shaasthaa, Harihara Puthra, Bhootha-naatha, Sabari-gireesha) there is no mention of even seeming homosexuality in our scriptures. Note that Vishnu had taken the form of a female. For that matter, except for the marriage of Valli the Kuraththi (gypsy woman of low caste) and Lord Subrahmanya, the second son of Lord Shiva, there is no mention of a god marrying a mortal.

No Hindu God among the 330 millions we pray to created lesbians, gays, bi-sexuals, and trans-sexuals.

Not Shiva. Not Vishnu. Not Amman. Not Ganapathi. Not Aadithyan. Not Kumaaran. Not the Navagrahams. Not the Ashta-dik devathaas.

QED?

In the Criminal Courts of the land where I have practised I have also come across defence counsel arguing that the murders, rapes, seduction, abduction, molestations of women and infants, arsons, were in reality acts of God in that the accused was tempted, or ordered, by God to do the acts complained of, and that the accused was not responsible as he had lost his mind and was acting under divine influence.

How many of these pleas succeeded, you think? None.

Surgeons, doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, rehabilitation experts, special-needs nurses and medical staff I have spoken to all agree that IF DETECTED AND TREATED EARLY, these patients can be returned to normal society. Even priests agree.

They say parents and relatives, ashamed and embarrassed, and ashamed of being shunned by society, hide the patients until it is too late for effective treatment. And then blame God. Not themselves or the patients.

So, please, let us not take the easy way out by conveniently blaming God for these people.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

 

[renuka]

I have never heard of any bonafide doctor calling LBGT as a treatable pathology.

Many doctors of the Jurassic era let their personal prejudices due to cultural conditioning cloud their intellect.

In such scenario..compassion is totally lacking.

As humans we need not be harshly judgmental on people who differ from us in sexual orientation.

What is so hard to respect another human.

For at least sometimes in life we need not play Holier Than Thou.

As Hindus our intellect should prevail and not our baseless emotions.

 

[krish44]

When one female runner from tamil nadu failed the gender test in one of the international events and lost her medal , Then Karunanidhi rewarded her saying it is the

body that ran and achieved the meritorius feat of winning. He rewarded her.

We ought to be compassionate towards persons with different orientation.

They are also part of society.

Simple facilities like public toilets are not made available to them.

ours is a callous society.

What is the sense in boasting of legal degrees when some fail the basic compassion test.

 

[krish44]

If I understand Mahabharatha, Amba masquerading as shikandi [ a female camaflouged as male] takes on bhishma. Arjuna hiding behind shikandi fights bhishma and

bhishma refuses to fight shikandi as she is female. Bhishma gets killed.

Even here a eunuch is given the role of a fighter.

Shikandi was created by hindu gods and no one else.

 

[Rudhran]

It is good to see that the thread has taken a ‘Right’ turn to discuss about LGBT.

It is anybody’s guess as to who is going to oppose and who is going to support them.

And who is going to advocate their Rights, privileges, equality, and leading a life free from discrimination, etc

Let those LGBT who may feel hopeless and alone and targeted for harassment and violence get necessary lawful protection and rights and equality to live like everyone else.

There may be even mention of LGBT in Kama Sutra written 150 BC

What have the respective Governments done for them to protect and to support..?

What are the court orders that went in favour of their employement, wedding, etc...?

Including Aravan, Kuttandavar temple at Koovagam, Tamil Nadu.

 

[S Narayanaswamy Iyer]

"I have never heard of any bonafide doctor calling LBGT as a treatable pathology."

Frogs in wells regrettably hear only their own voices.

(Abnormality is not pathology, Doctor. It is not a disease. It does not kill.)

Yes, in developed countries there are not only "bona fide doctors", but senior specialist consultants experts in medicine and in surgery respectively who have carried out treatment on very young SGBTs, successfully. I have met several personally in seminars and in interviews for promotion. The recovered patients are normal.

So it is personal experience, not speculation, not hearsay. For info, these experts were not trained in India, nor were they Indian citizens.

Regrettably, one or two ordinary doctors still living mentally in the antedeluvian era do appear to let their personal prejudices due to cultural conditioning and "unlearning" difficulties cloud their intellect.

"Even here a eunuch is given the role of a fighter."

A woman masquerading as a man is a eunuch? Is not a eunuch a man with his testicles removed? As in Arab harems and in Chinese imperial households? Is the Oxford Dictionary wrong when it says a eunuch is a man who is castrated?

Was not Bhishma doing the honourable thing by refusing to fight against a woman on the Kurukshethra battlefield? Even if she was camouflaged as a man? Was not Amba doing a totally dishonourable thing by killing an unarmed man on the same battlefield? Was not Krishna guilty of the same totally dishonourable act by asking Arjuna to kill the unarmed Duryodhana? Is this not why the Mahabhaaratham is looked upon as unfit for paaraayanam in Brahmin households?


"It is good to see that the thread has taken a ‘Right’ turn to discuss about LGBT."

Fine, Can we now expect a rush of Tamil Brahmin parents seeking LGBT sons-in-law and daughters-in-law? If not, why not? Aren't these also humans. as so often trotted out? Or, is it NIMBY (not in my backyard) when it comes to action and not words?

Thanks, and best regards.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

 

[Rudhran]

ours is a callous society.

.

Does it not include you...?

And what is the sense of writing in this Forum when someone fail the basic compassion.

We will write whatever our mind says and who knows that it may be nothing to do with what one practice in real life.

One may wish to write like a torch bearer of a radical thinking group.

But what is practiced in real life.....?

It is easy to record reel life in this Forum. lol

 

[Raji Ram]

OMG! Who brought in LGBT into this thread?

Not any of my friends, whom I requested in my OP, to participate in this! :nono:

 

[Raji Ram]

I think we have discussed enough about IC and IR weddings.

 

[Rudhran]

I think we have discussed enough about IC and IR weddings.

Let some one start the same thread after three months when it is actually boring (but with different title).

NB: There is no rule or restrictions in discussing the same topic again and again though there is not going to be much of a change in the society we live on the subject matter.