India never had it so bad

[sarang]

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Our concept of pralya is time dependent and we will survive and face good and bad periods.

Recently I got this explanation from a sindhi spiritualist, for the sloka 'paritranaya sadunam . . ' He said visnu's avatar will happen when sadus, who do not fight, are threatened with extinction. We, normal humans, have to fight evil in any form.

Here is what the leading scientists predict how the world and human race will end - after the predictions they are devising strategies for survival !

Science superheroes and famous thinkers form 'doomsday' society to save humanity from asteroids, pandemics - and itself | Mail Online

First it is pessimism leading to solutions

 

[sarang]

A few thoughts on the article:

"Lord Rees said: 'In future decades, events with low probability but catastrophic consequences may loom high on the political agenda."

In the past events like war had high probability but low consequences; the population was mostly stable, and growth rate was low.

"'That's why some of us in Cambridge - both natural and social scientists - plan, with colleagues at Oxford and elsewhere, to inaugurate a research programme to compile a more complete register of these existential risks, and to assess how to enhance resilience against the more credible ones."

What are existential risks? Let us hope the list is not exhaustive; more time and energy and resources will dilute the main goal - preservation of humans.

"'Our goal is to steer a small fraction of Cambridge's great intellectual resources and of the reputation built on its past and present scientific pre-eminence, to the task of ensuring that our own species has a long-term future."

Cambridge brahmins like boston brahmins!

"The ones that we are not so well aware of are the technological threats.

Our reliance on technology leaves us vulnerable to it. We use interconnected systems for everything from power, to food supply and banking, which means there can be real trouble if things go wrong or they are sabotaged."


We have to create and employ more james bonds. 80% of the english movies are about aliens, evil spirits, threat to human race. The tinsel world is always ahead of the scientists.

"In a modern, efficient world, we no longer stockpile food. If the supply is disrupted for any reason, it would take about 48-hours before it runs out and riots begin. So on a practical level, individuals should keep some non-perishable items at home."

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Just reminiscing: In our house, we had annual supply of rice, pulses, tamarind, chilli and most of the necessities including fire wood, stored in a 'paran'. Water was always available from the well. A family of ten, with an equal number of visitors and guests can live for a long time. I was also told that vegetables, locally grown, are always available. Even during natural calamities like cyclone, heavy rains/wind, vegetable from damaged and fallen crop flooded the local market. Inconvenience, yes, but no dislocation in daily life. There was no panic, as we understand today.

America will take over the job of universal policeman and law enforcer and will act based on the report of select ngo or trust or globe-protect-group. It can threaten to attack syria based on you tube videos of partisan groups.

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Here is what the leading scientists predict how the world and human race will end - after the predictions they are devising strategies for survival !

Science superheroes and famous thinkers form 'doomsday' society to save humanity from asteroids, pandemics - and itself | Mail Online

First it is pessimism leading to solutions

 

[ozone]

idiots will remain idiots. Ramarajya does not mean carrying bows and arrows; only a person who is totally ignorant of ramayana and dharmic way of life will say such foolhardy expletives.

Such folk has a thorough and total misunderstanding (assuming mental resources are inherent) and belong to the category who neither knows nor willing to learn. I am sure their iq levels are over 150!

ah! some thing stated here rings a bell.
Things never change out here

 

[prasad1]

idiots will remain idiots. Ramarajya does not mean carrying bows and arrows; only a person who is totally ignorant of ramayana and dharmic way of life will say such foolhardy expletives.

Such folk has a thorough and total misunderstanding (assuming mental resources are inherent) and belong to the category who neither knows nor willing to learn. I am sure their iq levels are over 150!

Dharmic way - comment coming from a person who live in adharmic times. I forgot that some person here was thawed out of Ice age.

 

[mkrishna100]

I watched couple of programs on TV ( Business channels ) and the essence was that Urban India is having a tough time while Rural India is having a positive time as far as the economy is concerned as this time the monsson was good + other programs of Govt like MNREGA and its effects on the rural economy directly / indirectly .
There are 2 Indias : Urban India ( India ) and Rural India ( Bharat ) , the UPA Government is putting its full strategy behind Rural India i.e Bharat and that is why they are naming their advertisements as Bharat Nirman .
Kindly go through the following article that describes how Rahul is viewing the difference between India and Bharath and putting strategies accordingly .This article is by Prabhu Chawla
For team Rahul, it's good politics..... Power & Politics / The Sunday Standard/ May 19, 2013


Prabhu Chawla: For team Rahul, it's good politics..... Power & Politics / The Sunday Standard/ May 19, 2013

 

[vgane]

India is no more part of BRICS.....Both China & Rusiia with low current account deficit have moved ahead...Now India is bracketed with Indonesia & Turkey along with Brazil & South Africa

Not sure if we will have a messiah...We need a Team which can think long term..May be the next 25 years...

Consistency of policies is one plus point in China because of the Communist but market friendly regime...India too should move in that direction...

When the NDA was overthrown in 2004 some of the good infrastructural programmes were thrown out...That should not happen now even if there is change in Government..Only those that are a drain on the economy should be given a short shrift

 

[vgane]

I watched couple of programs on TV ( Business channels ) and the essence was that Urban India is having a tough time while Rural India is having a positive time as far as the economy is concerned as this time the monsson was good + other programs of Govt like MNREGA and its effects on the rural economy directly / indirectly .
There are 2 Indias : Urban India ( India ) and Rural India ( Bharat ) , the UPA Government is putting its full strategy behind Rural India i.e Bharat and that is why they are naming their advertisements as Bharat Nirman .
Kindly go through the following article that describes how Rahul is viewing the difference between India and Bharath and putting strategies accordingly .This article is by Prabhu Chawla
For team Rahul, it's good politics..... Power & Politics / The Sunday Standard/ May 19, 2013


Prabhu Chawla: For team Rahul, it's good politics..... Power & Politics / The Sunday Standard/ May 19, 2013

Why is RaGa so much media shy...He has to be articulate to put forward the programs & policies of his party?...It's been only mumbo jumbo

 

[Brahmanyan]

Journalist Prabhu Chawla has placed the facts in his Article, on the lines of views of Congress Party, I could find nothing more than that. In my opinion what our Nation needs is a National Leader, a dynamic Leader with independant thinking to lead the Country to prosperity, not any one led by coterie of self seeking individuals or bureaucrats. Today we have seen the results of the rule by both major Political formations. There seem to be no difference in their functioning or the results. Same old bureacratic excuses for the abysmal state of affairs and solutions. The divide between the haves in Urban India and have-nots in rural India is widening day by day. We are a divided Country by Religion, Language, Caste, BPL and APL.
I have my own apprehensions on the media hype of welfare programs introduced by the Central Government. Only beneficiary seem to be the News Papers and TV channels, who are favoured with Government Advertisements. The result of its success of these schemes is based on so many other factors that have no control of Union Government. In fact many State Governments like Tamil Nadu and Karnataka have introduced better welfare programs. The massive transfer of welfare benefits direct to the beneficiaries under Aadhaar program is so big and complicted it has to pass through so many hurrdles to reach the public. Inspite of spending huge amounts of money Aadhaar has not reached majority of rural population.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[sangom]

Journalist Prabhu Chawla has placed the facts in his Article, on the lines of views of Congress Party, I could find nothing more than that. In my opinion what our Nation needs is a National Leader, a dynamic Leader with independant thinking to lead the Country to prosperity, not any one led by coterie of self seeking individuals or bureaucrats. Today we have seen the results of the rule by both major Political formations. There seem to be no difference in their functioning or the results. Same old bureacratic excuses for the abysmal state of affairs and solutions. The divide between the haves in Urban India and have-nots in rural India is widening day by day. We are a divided Country by Religion, Language, Caste, BPL and APL.
I have my own apprehensions on the media hype of welfare programs introduced by the Central Government. Only beneficiary seem to be the News Papers and TV channels, who are favoured with Government Advertisements. The result of its success of these schemes is based on so many other factors that have no control of Union Government. In fact many State Governments like Tamil Nadu and Karnataka have introduced better welfare programs. The massive transfer of welfare benefits direct to the beneficiaries under Aadhaar program is so big and complicted it has to pass through so many hurrdles to reach the public. Inspite of spending huge amounts of money Aadhaar has not reached majority of rural population.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

I do not think that this dependence on a Messiah or "a dynamic Leader with independant thinking to lead the Country to prosperity" is a good thing; it is the very weakness of this country. One leader cannot do anything much in a democratic set-up like India's. I am not sure how far the talk about the "Gujarat wonder" is really valid. It may well be that corruption is well and safe there, but is being covered up nicely and a kind of conducted tour is being given to the world. (Such "conducted tours" used to be given by countries like USA, USSR etc., in the past and China possibly does that even at present.)

In my view the greatest weakness of India is the undue dependence on religion by its people and the lack of a "national" spirit in them. Caste, community, language, BPL/APL, etc., only enable the national spirit to be replaced by such partisanship spirit to one's own caste, community, language, etc.

The country urgently needs a government which can set right these anomalies.

 

[mkrishna100]

In my opinion what our Nation needs is a National Leader, a dynamic Leader with independant thinking to lead the Country to prosperity, not any one led by coterie of self seeking individuals or bureaucrats.

This is the typical fantasy of an Urban Middle Class Indian . Leaders do not emerge from a vacuum just like that , the vast population of India in all fields like politics , education , religion , science , technology , business , social workers , Judiciary , Executive etc etc ) should have critical mass of people with the above mentioned qualities for such a leader to emerge .

I stay in an apartment block that has 16 apartments mostly TAMBRAMS but it is worse that UPA 2 when it comes to consensus on developing any worthwhile project for the apartment and evey decision gets delayed by more than 2-3 years with regard to any Major work related to apartment and the scenario is similar to many other apartment blocks . People spend lacks to furnish inside their apartment and do it at amazing speed but when it comes to improving the outer structure and common facilities there is endless delays and arguments and counter arguments .

I thought only my apartment block was like this but after reading this blog post I felt the issue is same at many places :
Ramblings and Rumblings: Urban Jungle

If one expects Modi or any messiah to wipe off these issues with one magic wand then that will be the biggest wonder this world has ever produced .

My feeling is that if we have to move forward as a Nation one generation of people ( from all walks of live : politics , business ,education judiciary , religion , social worker ,executive etc ) must be willing to work hard and sacrifice their personal comforts , ambition etc, move away from mediocre thinking and quick fix approach and put their full energy and dedication in whatever work they do .That will only help things move forward and not one messiah who will come and turn this place into a paradise in a short time .

Of course if a strong leadership can inspire a generation of Indians to think of the Country first and not their self interest then it will be a good starting point . But that will work good in Dictatorial regimes with less linguistic diversity and not in a parliamentary Democracy like India with its huge diversity and various linguistic states which have their own problems among each other .

 

[sravna]

I agree with Shri. Brahmanyan. Results in the shortest period is possible only with immaculate leadership. Modi is good but I think he needs some good support. Let's hope that happens and things begin to look up for India.

 

[prasad1]

I do not think that this dependence on a Messiah or "a dynamic Leader with independant thinking to lead the Country to prosperity" is a good thing; it is the very weakness of this country. One leader cannot do anything much in a democratic set-up like India's. I am not sure how far the talk about the "Gujarat wonder" is really valid. It may well be that corruption is well and safe there, but is being covered up nicely and a kind of conducted tour is being given to the world. (Such "conducted tours" used to be given by countries like USA, USSR etc., in the past and China possibly does that even at present.)

In my view the greatest weakness of India is the undue dependence on religion by its people and the lack of a "national" spirit in them. Caste, community, language, BPL/APL, etc., only enable the national spirit to be replaced by such partisanship spirit to one's own caste, community, language, etc.

The country urgently needs a government which can set right these anomalies.

Yes, I agree with your assessments.

 

[prasad1]

This is the typical fantasy of an Urban Middle Class Indian . Leaders do not emerge from a vacuum just like that , the vast population of India in all fields like politics , education , religion , science , technology , business , social workers , Judiciary , Executive etc etc ) should have critical mass of people with the above mentioned qualities for such a leader to emerge .

I stay in an apartment block that has 16 apartments mostly TAMBRAMS but it is worse that UPA 2 when it comes to consensus on developing any worthwhile project for the apartment and evey decision gets delayed by more than 2-3 years with regard to any Major work related to apartment and the scenario is similar to many other apartment blocks . People spend lacks to furnish inside their apartment and do it at amazing speed but when it comes to improving the outer structure and common facilities there is endless delays and arguments and counter arguments .

I thought only my apartment block was like this but after reading this blog post I felt the issue is same at many places :
Ramblings and Rumblings: Urban Jungle

If one expects Modi or any messiah to wipe off these issues with one magic wand then that will be the biggest wonder this world has ever produced .

My feeling is that if we have to move forward as a Nation one generation of people ( from all walks of live : politics , business ,education judiciary , religion , social worker ,executive etc ) must be willing to work hard and sacrifice their personal comforts , ambition etc, move away from mediocre thinking and quick fix approach and put their full energy and dedication in whatever work they do .That will only help things move forward and not one messiah who will come and turn this place into a paradise in a short time .

Of course if a strong leadership can inspire a generation of Indians to think of the Country first and not their self interest then it will be a good starting point . But that will work good in Dictatorial regimes with less linguistic diversity and not in a parliamentary Democracy like India with its huge diversity and various linguistic states which have their own problems among each other .

I can relate to what you are saying. This is so true of us Indians in particular. I do not know how other groups work.

 

[kunjuppu]

Journalist Prabhu Chawla has placed the facts in his Article, on the lines of views of Congress Party, I could find nothing more than that. In my opinion what our Nation needs is a National Leader, a dynamic Leader with independant thinking to lead the Country to prosperity, not any one led by coterie of self seeking individuals or bureaucrats. Today we have seen the results of the rule by both major Political formations. There seem to be no difference in their functioning or the results. Same old bureacratic excuses for the abysmal state of affairs and solutions. The divide between the haves in Urban India and have-nots in rural India is widening day by day. We are a divided Country by Religion, Language, Caste, BPL and APL.
I have my own apprehensions on the media hype of welfare programs introduced by the Central Government. Only beneficiary seem to be the News Papers and TV channels, who are favoured with Government Advertisements. The result of its success of these schemes is based on so many other factors that have no control of Union Government. In fact many State Governments like Tamil Nadu and Karnataka have introduced better welfare programs. The massive transfer of welfare benefits direct to the beneficiaries under Aadhaar program is so big and complicted it has to pass through so many hurrdles to reach the public. Inspite of spending huge amounts of money Aadhaar has not reached majority of rural population.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

dear brahmanyan,

many of us here debunk tamil administrations since 1967. but i feel, compared to rest of india, tamil nadu has made broad based social and economic progress. ofcourse there are pockets of poverty and also extreme caste prejudice.

but when i read the level of development of the bimaru states, it looks like these are a few centuries behind the tamils. even gujarat, for all its hype, has pockets of social index, which are pathetic ie regards to rural education, women's welfare and health.

we in tamil nadu, have to alternate between two mercurial CMs. but no matter what, the common man appears, overall, better led here than in bimaru or from delhi. maybe JJ would be a better PM than modi after all

 

[Brahmanyan]

dear brahmanyan,

many of us here debunk tamil administrations since 1967. but i feel, compared to rest of india, tamil nadu has made broad based social and economic progress. ofcourse there are pockets of poverty and also extreme caste prejudice.

but when i read the level of development of the bimaru states, it looks like these are a few centuries behind the tamils. even gujarat, for all its hype, has pockets of social index, which are pathetic ie regards to rural education, women's welfare and health.

we in tamil nadu, have to alternate between two mercurial CMs. but no matter what, the common man appears, overall, better led here than in bimaru or from delhi. maybe JJ would be a better PM than modi after all

Dear Sri Kunjuppu,

I agree with your views fully. In fact the present State Administrative machinery in Tamil Nadu is efficient than that of other States. This is because of the effective leadership and involvement of the present CM in the progress of State. I believe in the efficacy of individual Leadership for the progress and prosperity, whether it is the family or Nation. I do not want to repeat the names of great leaders from History to prove this point.

Last week my brother in law with his family and that of friends returned to Chennai from a pilgrimage from Varanasi and Gaya. They were expressing the prevailing conditions of life and law and order in UP and Bihar in the same words that of yours.

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.