Into Eloping mode-- made or spontaneous

[suraju06]

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Hi Renuka,

You see we LOVE something that's why we take the trouble to watch it an enjoy it even if it's porn.

What you have put down is worth a heated discussion in a pattimanram with the topic "Love off porn" and "love of porn". One is exploring and enjoying the physical self while the other is depravity. You said it!

BTW many a times I see married people thinking marriage is without lust.
I was just wondering what do these people do at home?
I am sure no one is doing Pooja,Abhishek and Sahasranamam to their respective partners.

I refer you to a book written by Khushwant Singh. While I have forgotten the name of the book I remember what he said. I would love to reproduce it here but I am afraid I may touch a hornets nest by that inviting red letter intervention. If you can get that book please read it. True Sardarji style he had been too blunt with his observation about what sex is for most of Indians.

Cheers.

 

[thejhas]

Ma'am it is high time that some reformation happens... we can't afford to let things dictate

 

[Raji Ram]

Ma'am it is high time that some reformation happens... we can't afford to let things dictate

How can you expect any change? Because,

1. Girls who are highly educated would like to dominate.

2. They do not wish either to listen to their parents or their elders.

3. They want to marry a person with salary in the 'high bracket'
( a new word in the marriage market!)

4. They do not care to have their partner from their own caste.

5. A divorce is not a stigma anymore!

 

[Raji Ram]

I wrote about girls from the high income group.

Now about the girls from the lower income group.

1. They doubt whether their parents would find them a partner at all!

2. Dowry has NOT vanished from the society and parents struggle.

3. They are ready to convert to other religions since grass is greener on the other side!

4. They have to grin and bear the consequences of elopement, because they don't dare to divorce.

5. They expect their parents to accept them at least a few years later / when they face some trouble.

 

[sarang]

I have a doubt. What is the definition of 'elope'?

Boy or girl fall in love, find a mate outside their community, religion, state and status (social and financial) inform their parents of their intent to wed, but not approved by their parents. They walk out and marry. This, in my opinion, cannot be called eloping.

Boy and girl in love, do not inform the parents (out of fear or rejection) and run away without warning, to marry or live-in; this is 'elope'.

I have come across many cases of the first type; but the second type only from media.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

dear Mr. TJ!

A naughty poem written by me says it all in a funny way!


131. THE SNUG BUG.

They knew he was a thug,

She was under love’s drug;

Each ear stuffed with a plug,

All the warnings met a shrug.

She thought he was her jug;

He thought she was his mug!

He was in fact a mere bed-bug,

Wishing the comfort of a rug,

He felt complacent and smug,

He loved his shelter real snug!

No amount of parental tug,

No amount of brotherly lug,

Could free her from his hug.

He was the meanest slug,

And a first class humbug,

The tussle ended with a…

Kooo chug chug chug chug

chug chug chug chug chug!

Source :Naughty Poems long and short

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This is one of my two gifts for your enthusiasm. :thumb:

The other one...??? Well find it out by yourself!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

You are right Sir! Unless the parents are blind, deaf, dumb and indifferent,

they CANNOT miss the signals given out by their wards.

No point in blaming them after blocking all the other options except running away!

I have a doubt. What is the definition of 'elope'?

Boy or girl fall in love, find a mate outside their community, religion, state and status (social and financial) inform their parents of their intent to wed, but not approved by their parents. They walk out and marry. This, in my opinion, cannot be called eloping.

Boy and girl in love, do not inform the parents (out of fear or rejection) and run away without warning, to marry or live-in; this is 'elope'.

I have come across many cases of the first type; but the second type only from media.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Just use the icon :focus:

discussion deviating... :-(

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

These KIDS know the story of Dasaratha...who could ride in his chariot in all the ten directions(the usual eight directions + up+ down)

Previously they used to commit suicide and go UP together as martyrs of love.

Now they go DOWN and hide underground keeping their whereabouts completely in the dark!!!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

YOU Don't need to be addicted to heroin! :nono:

Being addicted to your heroine is enough. :hug:

Am I correct sir???
Heroine??? :decision: Heroin???

.

You don't need to be a heroin addict or a performance poet to experience extremity. You just have to be in love.--Hornby, a Novelist.[/COLOR]

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

I know people who MUST end their meals with thayir chadam.
Otherwise they don't feel as if they have eaten properly. :hungry:

Ha Ha Ha..same person? then where is the "Kickku"?

You can't be having Thayir Sadam(curd rice) for all meals everyday for the rest of your life isn't it?
Variety is the spice of life and we Indians DO NOT lack any spice!!LOL


Disclaimer: This post is meant to be a light hearted post.It is not meant as an advise to be followed.The poster will not be responsible if anyone is tempted to taste the forbidden fruit after reading this.!!LOL

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

I was wondering where everyone was!

Was this the usual week end lull??

But I see everyone is here! :grouphug:

Who could keep away from such a meaty topic??? opcorn:

It may emerge with a thousand different headings

but presto it attracts everyone like a ripe jack-fruit attracting

you know what !!!

just one question to TJ!

Is anyone close to you an affected party in an elopement?

YOU need not answer, if you don't feel like it.

 

[thejhas]

Visalakshi ma'am I mentioned it in the first post itself ( 2 from my 'in-laws' family)... But however ma'am I would like to know wether this phenomenon is widespread and has reached alarming propotions... because in every wedding ceremony I find atleast one mother who has allowed her daughter to elope( esp christians)... more impo I am also hearing that it is a part of 'conversions' and stuff... this intensely pains me.... for more than 5000 years we have lived in this country, but will we be able to survive this onslaught... I am sorry to say but my frustration is so high that--- Is 'Ranganathar' a stone?... I try my best to create awareness but still I am saddened by non senses ....

 

[Raghy]

Sowbagyavathy DrR.C.Narayani, Greetings.

I refer to your message in post #20. If she 'converted' the day before marriage, she was asking for trouble. If she did not value herself, if she was prepared to devalue herself to go through 'conversion', it is a small wonder she did not value her parents. She didn't have to wait that long to 'elope'. By not valuing her parents, she lost her respect with her in-laws too. Really sad.

 

[renuka]

I am sorry to say but my frustration is so high that--- Is 'Ranganathar' a stone?......

Dear Thejasji,

However frustrated you feel never ever blame God.
God is everything from a stone to the cosmos.

Remember this line:

Karun kallanalum Thanigai malaiyil Kallavein,
If am I to become a stone, I would be glad as a stone in Thanigaimalai;

 

[Raghy]

Sri.Thejhas, Greetings.

Why women eloped , was my basic question seeing their post marital situation?

Often times, boys don't like to resign their jobs and run away. They just stay put. Most often than not, the boys may be already away from home. In some cases, the boys may be from rich families; they don't like to loose their inheritance. Lastly, most boys are just arrogant ( his arrogancy would be the one of the attracting points for the girl in the first place). So, boys don't elope.

Secondly, in general girls either live with her parents or in a women's hostel. She may not be in a position to ask the boy to move in with her. So, she has to move out with him. Hence she 'elopes'.

Although the girls do most of the things quite boldly until the point of elopement, at that last leg she lets him take control of the situation for practical purposes like arranging accomadation etc; there she looses the edge. I have seen few cases where eloped girls have done quite well.

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Hi Renuka,



Poor Raghy working out on the grooves of his abs. Girls can indeed drive men to madness, no end!! LOL.

Cheers.

Sri. Raju, Greetings.

I know. I will have to do quite a workout too. Before I gave up smoking, I did have a 4 pack. But after giving up smoking, and mainly after I started loving my own cooking ( it is a disaster!) now I end up with one pack! But not too bad though.....

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Sowbagyavathy Renuka, Greetings.

When you are done getting a 6 pack ribbed rectus abdominis please kindly upload your pic in forum.

It was a month or two after 6 months. I thought you would have forgotten that.... no, you haven't!

Ok. I didn't try at all. For some unknown reason, the local candy shop is closed. I was used to enjoy candy after every exercise session. Enjoying candy itself was an exercise too. I know I could get some candy from the freezer if I really push for it. But I like candy mouth watering, warm and displayed. I will not go to a different shop either. I am used to candy just from one shop. That shop owner knows the way I like my candy etc. Due to lack of incentive I kind of slacked off from my exercises. Giving up smoking didn't help either. Hence no six pack. May be I should get the six pack or my usual four pack without expecting any incentives.

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Sowbagyavathy Renuka,

So the crown officially goes to you after reading your post and your versatility.

I think, I am going to be in trouble! LOL!

Cheers!

 

[prasad1]

Sowbagyavathy Renuka, Greetings.





It was a month or two after 6 months. I thought you would have forgotten that.... no, you haven't!

Ok. I didn't try at all. For some unknown reason, the local candy shop is closed. I was used to enjoy candy after every exercise session. Enjoying candy itself was an exercise too. I know I could get some candy from the freezer if I really push for it. But I like candy mouth watering, warm and displayed. I will not go to a different shop either. I am used to candy just from one shop. That shop owner knows the way I like my candy etc. Due to lack of incentive I kind of slacked off from my exercises. Giving up smoking didn't help either. Hence no six pack. May be I should get the six pack or my usual four pack without expecting any incentives.

Cheers!

I thought you enjoyed the black label or was it shivas Regal? lol

 

[Raghy]

Wait, I am utterly confused. Provocative pictures and hot porno are love and not lust? I think I have to take out my dictionary again!

Sri. Biswa, Greetings.

Provocative pictures and hot porno are just love. Not lust. Would you agree lust is not promoted in temples? All the beautiful statues, carved to such nice proprtions in provocative dancing poses do not promote lust. I just googled 'sculptures of India'... the resulting link is this.... https://www.google.com.au/search?tb....0.2.2.0.263.1985.0j2j7.9.0...0.0.NsIl0Auk70A .... you can see for yourself so many of these sculptures are provocative. Are you feeling lust after watching them? In my case, I can get thousands of provocative pictures on the net and can spend time enjoying them. Lust starts only when I try to contact those models seeking carnal pleasures. Since I am the least interested, I know I just love enjoying those pictures.

Similarly with hot porno movies. The days one has to buy video or DVD are gone. Tons of porn tubes are available on the net. Some of them absolutely marvellous in the selection of the performers, selection of location, photography etc. It is like, we get like 1,000 movies released in India in total in all languages per year; how many does one watch? about half a dozen very selected movie?

I don't know... since my youth, on the one hand I enjoyed reading 'Ambuli Mama' and at the other end pure pornography and everything in between. I don't know. i can't explain.

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Sowbagyavathy Renuka said -

Many wouldn't want to admit that lust is needed in a healthy marriage.

In my opinion, lust is a very important requirement in the beginning. It may taper off over the years. But it need not taper off either. Actually it may start all over after about early 50s! I used to share accomadation with one gentleman by the name George in Canada.He was about 70 years old. One morning he was entering home grinning ear to ear! It was snowing and I was enjoying a smoke outside. I asked him "you are grinning like a hyena! Did you score last night?' I expected him to just laugh and walk in.. no he stopped and said 'is it that obvious?!'.

There is more to life than eye can see.

Cheers!

 

[Iyyarooraan]

Some fathers or some mothers have been wrong, indiscreet, and have failed to understand their children or much less read their mind. There could have been unpleasant family situations and family traits which might have influenced the parents and or their children to strike an attitude in life or in matters of this kind in life. We have to accept that both the parties have failed to educate themselves and secluded themselves from the society, TBs.

Well, the parents are best judges to handle the situation. If we talk only of TBs, the parents cannot change but can be convinced to go with the community within its norms. But to expect the community to sponsor all inter-caste marriages is ridiculous. Please note the community is suffering and is airing its agony. We do not need any official liquidator.Ageing street thugs made laws in civil, criminal and social spheres. We are respecting the first two and have problems to the third.

Love is also many splendoured thing. This has been discussed umpteen times. Rose is beautiful but when you want to pluck it, the thorn hurts. Instead of the Rose, you should not find yourself mending only injured hurt. It is worse in human beings. These things have happened ages before. The parties might have suffered or were condoned. But is it compulsory that you should love? Without being natural and spontaneous? One can take a foolish step and then falsely refer it as a fast one (instead of being loose one). What if other person does not? This results in fiasco and trauma. It is not that parents only make mistakes. Are children infallible?

Time only SAYS who is right and who is wrong. Those days there were Forts between man and woman or boy and girl. And the occasional spark intensified and made the persons crave for that “eternal bliss” which was nothing but a union of male and female. The process of life goes on. The lovers become parents and their pasts might have raised questions before their blossoming children.

In case of adolescent kids love is possible. And for practical purposes it should be mutual. But boys have always been wavering and are fooled into thinking that they can do anything. The girls should be aware of this trait in boys. It is love if the two go about it winning other people. But if they want to escape to their own world, it is just lust and may be poor self-confidence or faith in their own love. I think these days divorces occur where both have ATTEMPTED to know each other better before. And they have not understood anything at all. It, these divorces, proves that it was lust only. Love was ‘zero’, only ornamented.
In the days of the yore, boys and girls were married at young arrange so that they can mutually play with each other and develop love or liking towards each other. The modern world has decreed it as atrocious. They argued it resulted in early widowhood. I want to believe that there are less widows today. Everybody has failed to understand the old systems but all succeeded in misunderstanding them.

We have now come a long way and today there is a vestige of the institution called marriage. There will be no relationship and everybody will become father and mother and children to each other. The progress of civilization or decaying of civilization?

Talking of Porns. Let me say a mob is at riot, looting, arsoning, etc. is doing violence. But if the police force comes in to quell that violence, it is organized violence. Similarly, the marriage was made an institution by the society for the very purpose of enjoying sex and porn within limits of decency. Of course, a few people get pleasure only out of infringing all rules and regulations, customs and traditions, and established decencies. Let us say only good things. Of course, the world is on its own course. Why should we hurry to fall in an abyss. Perhaps to die before death comes! The community should organize itself to provide good counseling. I think the mammas boys will come forward perhaps dubiously. But the girls will defy not only these attempts but they will defy themselves like Paarvaty defied Shiva. If you go through the matrimonial sights you will see that thousands of girls are just ‘fishing’ there. It is time we made a voting exercise asking for votes from members: Whether they like their Parents and how much?

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Mr. TJ,

There is a long discussion in this same section about Brahmin girls being attracted by non Brahmin boys.
We are blowing the conch but it is falling on deaf ears. :horn:

Brahmin girls seen to prefer not only non Brahmin boys but also non Hindu boys. If I may, I like to use the expression Amar, Akbar and Antony are all the same in their eyes.

Conversion is heroic deed worthy of applause.

What will be the plight of their children in the future, no one cares about it.

Some of my cousins have got married to non Brahmin Hindu girls from other states three decades ago!

Now my elder son, a nephew and a niece had love marriages with non Brahmins.

Two of the weddings took place with the blessings of the parents but the third one deserves to be called as eloping and disappearing completely.

That is what made me write that poem.

Their ears are plugged, their eye are closed and mouths taped.

Personally I feel that instead of letting them disappear from our lives once for all, it is better to get them married to their fiance, so that we can at least know of their welfare.

Times are changing! :tsk:

Visalakshi ma'am I mentioned it in the first post itself ( 2 from my 'in-laws' family)... But however ma'am I would like to know wether this phenomenon is widespread and has reached alarming propotions... because in every wedding ceremony I find atleast one mother who has allowed her daughter to elope( esp christians)... more impo I am also hearing that it is a part of 'conversions' and stuff... this intensely pains me.... for more than 5000 years we have lived in this country, but will we be able to survive this onslaught... I am sorry to say but my frustration is so high that--- Is 'Ranganathar' a stone?... I try my best to create awareness but still I am saddened by non senses ....

 

[Raji Ram]

.............. I have come across many cases of the first type; but the second type only from media.

Second type only from media?

Please get info. from wider circle of friends and relatives, Sir!!