Let all govt servants send their children to govt schools: HC

[V.Balasubramani]

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Let all govt servants send their children to govt schools: HC

Allahabad, Aug 18 (PTI) The Allahabad High Court today asked the Uttar Pradesh Chief Secretary to ensure that government servants, elected representatives and members of judiciary "and all other persons who get any benefit or salary from state exchequer or public fund" send their children to primary schools run by state Board for Secondary Education.

? ? ? Passing the judgement, Justice Sudhir Agarwal also ruled that "penal provisions" be laid down for those who violated the order.

"For example, if a child is sent to a private school not maintained by the UP Board," an amount equivalent to that paid in the form of fees by the erring officials or elected representatives "shall be deposited in state exchequer every month so long as such education in other kind of primary school is continued".

"Besides, such person, if in service, should be made to suffer other benefits like increment, promotional avenues for a certain period, as the case may be", the court said, adding "this is only illustrative.

The appropriate provisions can be made by government so as to ensure that ward(s)/child/children of persons, as detailed above, are compelled necessarily to receive primary education in the primary schools run by the Board".

Read more at: http://www.ptinews.com/news/6395517...-send-their-children-to-govt-schools--HC.html

 

[yesmohan]

The anger and the truth behind the views of the honourable judge of the Allahabad High Court by asking the Uttar Pradesh Chief Secretary to ensure that government servants, elected representatives and members of judiciary "and all other persons who get any benefit or salary from state exchequer or public fund".......is understandable.

Whether the enactment of a law to this effect is feasible?; Even if enacted, would it sustain the test of the court?

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

Why only schooling ? How about Health Care - Should be made to attend Government Hospitals!

 

[Lalit]

Why only schooling ? How about Health Care - Should be made to attend Government Hospitals!

Very correct and the "govt. servants" to include even the President, and elected PM, CMs, MPs and MLAs and other generic govt staff! We may see a really democratic ambience and drastic improvement in all health and medical facilities!!!

 

[krish44]

we talk lowly of govt schools.

I had the oppurtunity to see Govt schools in male maldives capital.

They were better in all ways than the private schools in india.

Their teachers mostly were from india -kerala.

their labs and libraries were well equipped and staffed.

When they can do it why not india?

Kejriwal is taking some initiatives to improve delhi govt schools. Navodaya vidyalayas and central schools are better than govt schools.

The teachers in delhi govt schools are well qualified . Only they have the super human task of educating first generation learners from poor families.

They are often misused to promote govt programs such as census,election duties,pulse polio etc.

They are made to supervise midday meals,distribute school uniform and do such things not related to teaching.

I pity their lot.

What can you expect from poor teachers who are grossly misused and not allowed freely to do their basic job that is teaching?

 

[tbs]

hi

in kerala....govt schools better than private schools....for education....whole india is has to learn from kerala....best educated

state in india.....here in USA...local county school better than any best private school of india..from K -12 free education

with free bus/free lunch....for some reduced lunch without a single penny school fees....even we can do that....

IF THERE IS A WILL...THERE IS A WAY....in india ...education is best business than a manufacturing factory....

 

[V.Balasubramani]

As for the standard of education in Governments Schools at Tamil Nadu it is bit shocking indeed.

I just wanted to share an article published way back in 2012 which speaks volume.

“The system is unable to give quality education to a large section of the population”

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If the Annual Survey of Education Report (ASER)-2011 were to be considered a report card of the States' performance in school education, Tamil Nadu has several reasons to be worried. The data it presents, on learning levels of over 26,000 students across 29 districts in Tamil Nadu, is shocking.

Only about 32 per cent of the students in class V could read a simple story in Tamil. Among the class IV students covered in the study, only 40. 6 per cent could perform subtraction of two-digit numbers, while the current curriculum expects them to be able to perform multiplication and division as well.

The ASER study, facilitated by non-governmental organisation Pratham, seeks to look at learning outcomes in children in the age group 6 to 14, by testing their ability in reading and arithmetic, using simple tests.

In addition to it's nearly 100 per cent enrolment, Tamil Nadu does reasonably well in aspects such as attendance of teachers and students. However, when it comes to quality, there are serious concerns.

Presenting some of the Report's findings at the launch of the state-level ASER-2011 here on Saturday, educationist V. Vasanthi Devi said it should be considered a “Himalayan failure” that the system is unable to give quality education to a large section of the population. “The survey also shows us that it is a myth that private schools are better. The findings clearly show that students going to private schools performed no better than their counterparts in government schools.”

Read more at: http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...tamil-nadu-shocking-survey/article2907999.ece

Yesterday, I read a report in a tamil daily projecting the deplorable condition of a Government school being used as an open TASMAC bar by ‘Kudimagans’ of the locality.

 

[yesmohan]

Presenting some of the Report's findings at the launch of the state-level ASER-2011 here on Saturday, educationist V. Vasanthi Devi said it should be considered a “Himalayan failure” that the system is unable to give quality education to a large section of the population. “The survey also shows us that it is a myth that private schools are better. The findings clearly show that students going to private schools performed no better than their counterparts in government schools.”

The majority of people who sent their children to public schools are lower class and lower middle class who could not afford to send their ward to private schools. In addition they could not afford to supplement the children with private tuitions.

The middle, upper middle and affluent class who send the children to private schools could afford to spoon feed the children with tuitions for all subjects.

However when comes the concept of originality and the principle of self learning, the former excell better in all ways.

 

[sangom]

Nobody sees the "emperor without clothes" in these discussions. And that emperor is, the colonial-cum-caste mindset created in India by our ancient varna system on to which the british colonial attitude built its own structure; this structure acts as an "apartheid" mentality. We will get rid of this, IMHO, only if we are prepared t completely dismantle and demolish the bureaucracy of the british system. But will India ever be able to do that?

 

[krish44]

Nobody sees the "emperor without clothes" in these discussions. And that emperor is, the colonial-cum-caste mindset created in India by our ancient varna system on to which the british colonial attitude built its own structure; this structure acts as an "apartheid" mentality. We will get rid of this, IMHO, only if we are prepared t completely dismantle and demolish the bureaucracy of the british system. But will India ever be able to do that?

Do you know sangomji
Senior central govt officials floated a school in delhi called 'sanskriti school "with generous govt grants where their kids could study.

It is located in chanakya puri near the diplomatic enclave and caters to upper class govt official kids.

there is this elitist approach when it comes to senior officials.

Govt schools are for the poor.

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Why Allahabad HC is wrong in forcing govt schools on children of the influential

In what could be seen as the judiciary stepping into the domain of policy-making yet again, the Allahabad High Court on Tuesday ordered the Chief Secretary of Uttar Pradesh to ensure that children of all government servants, people's representatives and judges compulsorily attend government schools. Needless to say, the implementation of the order is not easy and this might just end up becoming a paper-tiger court order which cannot be complied with.

We will know for sure in six months, when a compliance report is due in court. But the order in itself, and the accompanying observations, are a good reminder of why we are yet to get education right in India. The basic premise of the court, from what we can gather from media reports, was that only if government officials’ own children attend these schools would they be serious enough to look into the requirements of these schools and ensure that they run in good condition.

Further, the court has also asked for government officials to be fined and punished for not complying with the order, and the money collected from the offenders shall duly be used for improvement of schools. There are several problems with the judgment, even if the intentions are noble. First, the problems of our public education system are deep-rooted and cannot be solved by increased spending or government officials wanting to do better.

There is a genuine demand-supply gap of good teachers, efficient administrators and stable infrastructure; we don't have enough of them. It isn't just that many teachers and administrators don’t care enough to do their jobs properly, many among them are also not trained well enough. Fund-leakages are high and so is teacher-absenteeism. Teacher unions are powerful political allies and hold little accountability.

See more at: http://www.thenewsminute.com/articl...ildren-influential-33317#sthash.DIWeZfMt.dpuf

 

[tbs]

Do you know sangomji
Senior central govt officials floated a school in delhi called 'sanskriti school "with generous govt grants where their kids could study.

It is located in chanakya puri near the diplomatic enclave and caters to upper class govt official kids.

there is this elitist approach when it comes to senior officials.

Govt schools are for the poor.

hi

besides govt schools in delhi....army school/naval school /air force bala bharati are doing welll...even though its not for all...

over all delhi govt schools are doing welll better than other state govt schools in north...