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off to the usa we go to study..more and more

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Hello ALL:

I want to disagree with many of what I read here.

1. Comparing US economy with that of China and India are not right or good.. for US is in a different phase of its economic curve than that of China or India. US must be compared to Japan, Germany, France or UK.

2. But, comparing China and India are quite right and good because both are nearly in the same phase of their economic curve.

Both have the same population density and size... as per World Bank, nearly 70-80% of their citizens make less than U$2 per day per person.

One has a Single Party (CCP) autocracy in decision making while the other has a multi-party democracy.

India's per capita GDP is about U$1800 per year, China's is about U$4000 per year. the difference could be due to "reforms" started much earlier in 1980 in China, while it got started in earnest in 1992 in India.

3. There is controversy about what's the NET worth of US:

My estimates from Treasury figures and from PIMCO - the Bond King of the World - is about $6 trillions NET.

All assets worth about $78.22 trillions (usdebtclock.org).

PIMCO calculates the present value of ALL future liabilities AND the current debts amount to $ 72 trillions.

This appears to be correct because the World Bond Market believes in the long term solvency of the US, as shown by their willingness to lend money long term at a very cheap interest rate:

10 Yr. T yields about 2% and 30 Yr T yields about 3.2% when the inflation is about 2%.

For me, this is the proof of my calculations... If these yields go up to 10% or so, then I will accept that the US is and will be insolvent very soon.

Till then, I believe US is very solvent.... be happy!

:)

ps. This $6 trillions owned by about 30% of Americans including myself will be transferred to our kids and grand kids in the so-called "Generational Transfer" of wealth and knowledge. LOL...
 
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On China's Economy, Foreign Direct Investments and the Real Estate Bubble:

1. Paramount leader Deng decided to ditch the Socialist/Communist ideology in favor of some sort of profit-seeking, wealth amassing Capitalism in early 1980s in China.

2. They opened their economy to the Foreign Direct Investments, largely from the US and the West Europe. The capital gain tax was set to zero and the corporate tax was less than 20% with lots of deductions and exemptions... so much so the FDIs don't pay any tax on their business activity.

This is a boon for the top MNCs of the world, most headquartered in the US/West. At the expense of growth in their own countries.

3. China quickly got a new class of wealthy "Capitalists aka savers aka investors". Their saving in the State Owned Banks is paid very very low interests...and the new Capitalists want to act smarter! So, they ventured into the classical investments in Real Estate in a big way - they built massive ports, airports and new cities with multi-lane roads and freeways, hoping there will be users who will pay the toll or tax...

Alas... many of their new constructions remain vacant for a long time... their money is sitting idle... and the foreign institutional investors (FII) are pushing up the bubble higher..

These FIIs will one fine morning pull the rug under (sooner than most expect), and the RE bubble will be burst... the stampede will catch millions of dead bodies economically speaking... the effect will be horrible to watch...

Similar to what happened in Japan, Spain, US and other countries...

The very sad story will be if that happens simultaneously in both India and China; the blood bath will be very ugly...

Most of the "wealth" from these two high growth countries will be vaporized in about 6 months....

America in 1929-39, will be replayed in the East...

After 1945, America re-emerged as the world Super Power militarily and economically.... what would happen to our "New Capitalists - the Chinese and Indians"?

Wait & watch.

:)
 
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