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Re-energising the Kanchi mutt

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Kanchi mutt is a great institution and has initiated some purposeful ventures to make a difference to the society. Today poeple in south may not know where the other mutts are located but all poeple in North know where Kanchi mutt is located. Let us come out with some good suggestions to make the purpose meet its ends rather than waste our time criticising the gurus for their worldly errors, ignoring their great intellectual greatness.

rrvvvr,

i think you hit the nail on the head here .. Today poeple in south may not know where the other mutts are located but all poeple in North know where Kanchi mutt is located.

it is sad, that even though the mutt has been in kanchi for more than thousand years, that it has absolutely no impact on the immediate surroundings.

i do not know what purposeful ventures it has initiated. to me it looks like that of late it has been an exclusive brahmin club, which has no place in current society.


the reputation it has earned over the ears, even though it was a stronghold of brahminism, it practised the most ascetic form of it. as long as there was no wealth, and where erudition was the goal, the organization is admired.

i think, its reputation, was built on such adherence to religiosity to the level of practice of day to day ascetism and poverty. it is perhaps, to the memory of this past, that we are loyal.

how do we reconcile, this glorious past, to our feelings and situations of today?

it is also dismaying, that the mutt is more popular in north india. i think, charity begins at home. without a strong home base, recognition all over the world, comes to a nought.


having said all the above, i can appreciate your feelings. where the heart reigns, there is no place for reason. for people like you, who had implicit faith, trust and devotion, i empathize with your angst.


hopefully, all this passes over soon.


thank you.
 
Let us all not commit the fallacy of siding with Paramacharyal or Sri Jayendrar because the latter was selected by the former. What happened to Sri Jayendrar was definitely kaalathin kolaru. The Paramacharyal with his great gnanadrishti saw it coming and that is why he had selected Sri Vijayendrar as well so that the performance of the Chandramouleeswara pooja was not affected while Sri Jayendrar was in jail.

Collecting funds by itself is not wrong in this age, only forceful extraction is. The Paramacharya was a great ascetic and his word was a command for many during his age. When he asked someone to do something it got done. He never really felt the need for the mutt to have funds. Sri Jayendrar realized that after the Paramacharya's time things are going to be very different, பொருள் இல்லார்க்கு இவ்வுலகம் இல்லை, true even for a mutt like the Kanchi mutt so he went for a collection drive. Even if Sri Jayendrar had the power like the Paramacharyal, I don't think it would have carried any weight in these times where we are having scoundrels and charlatans as politicians and public figures.

Here I am tempted to make a comparison with the Sringeri Sharada Mutt. As my wife's family are devotees of Sri Bharati Theerthar, I know a little bit about it. Apart from the spirituality that you feel when you land in Sringeri, the Mutt is run with such efficiency by the Acharya which can put a Harvard MBA to shame. Even during Paramacharyal's time, the Sringeri Mutt was flush with funds with huge support from Karnataka and Tamil Brahmins as well. The funds are well spent (just seeing about 5000 poor people being fed everyday is a great achievement). I have seen myself the Mutt's high tech kitchen with its gargantuan idli making machines. I have heard the Acharya personally oversees all accounting aspects of the Mutt. So it is possible for a religious pontiff to oversee both the ஆத்மீக and லௌகிக aspects.

Compared to the resources of the Catholic Church or the Gulf money for Islam our Hindu resources are puny and scattered but this cannot be helped as ours is not a organised religion. There is also great deal done by Sathya Sai Baba, Maa Amrita and SSR and we need all of them with the Acharyas. While the gurus themselves don't criticize one another, the devotees indulge in the useless exercise of pulling down other gurus depending on whom they support.
 
Dear kunjuppu ji,

I agree with you when you say "even though the mutt has been in kanchi for more than thousand years, it has absolutely no impact on the immediate surroundings". In my opinion Jayendrar was trying to create that impact. He started a big university where a number of poor students are being educated on full subsidy. He constructed hospitals in many places where poor get treatment almost free of cost( childtrust, Hindu mission and Tamilnadu hospitals) while others pay nominal charges. He travelled into the slums and consecrated small temples because he wanted to stop people from converting to other religions. He used all his influence with the political leaders to ban conversion and cow slaughter through legislation. I dont agree that he was creating a brahmin club. He was the first acharya in his leniage to identify himself with the society at large and hinduism in particular, true to being a jagadguru. There were more NBs visiting him than any other acharya of the mutt in the past. Ponder over....

Dear anandb

I think you have expressed the most balanced view than any of us in the forum so far. Great analysis. Please do us a favour by suggesting how do we move forward from here to energise the demoralised Kanchi mutt and its devotees.
 
thank you rrvvvr.

like you, for many reasons, i wish the kanchi mutt well enough, due to its great traditions. and longevity.

i too hope it gets re-energized for the benefit of all hindus.
 
I think, its wrong to bench mark an institution with the no. of poor people they feed on daily basis. A good small town Catholic mission or a rich Chettiar would fare well here..And MGR would rank number with his noon-meal scheme..

Saying goes, 'don't give 'em fish, rather teach him how to fish'..Thats the biggest contribution to mankind.. Educate them in schools to earn their daily bread..



>> travelled into the slums and consecrated small temples because he wanted to stop people from converting to other religions>>

I wish the intentions of good work on slums were not attributed to the sole objective of, preventing conversions, just.. It also infers, that, if not for conversions, slums would continue to remain slums and outcaste without any consecrated temples!! Live and let live!!

Just shared a human feeling!!
 
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Dear Sri rrvvvr Ji,

I hear you. And I also share in your anguish on questions about our Gurus. As I have said before, regarding the Gurus and their 'legitemacy', it is enough for me to know that Paramacharyal Himself selected them. Thus, I personally would never even go near a question that somehow they have deviated an iota from their Dharma.

But then I see one of the major contributors to the current situation is this schism between some of the 'supposed devotees' of the Paramacharyal and the 'supposed devotees' of the Peraval and Bala Periaval. I usually hear from the former about Periaval's leaving the Dhandam and how they can not forgive that act (even though Maha Periaval clearly accepted Periaval back) and hear from the latter about how Periaval is helping the Dalits and doing so many things to benefit the society as opposed to what MahaPeriaval did. The one thing that clearly comes out is that how each camp tries to diminish our Gurus in comparison!

People asked Maha Periaval endlessly to come up with a 'new dharma' code for the Brahmins for today. He always demurred, saying that it was not His place to do so. (Because, in my opinion, if He had come up with a new concept, the Sri Matham would have been in peril). But then, He has chosen apparently a person who is willing to cut a new path for the Sri Matham, according to the times, did He not? We need to think about the current times and it's needs and the time Maha Periaval grew up and His concepts for the revival of Hinduism and the free India. The society at large and our community, while providing lip service to His teachings, never followed His advice in toto.

Now we are heaping scorn at the current Sri Matham, because of some unfortuante happenings.

So, in this context, let me addrees your specific question about how to 're-energize' the Sri Matham going forward:

1. First of all let the current cloud in the form of the law suits get cleared (because without this you can not energize the community)

2. Next, appoint a high level committee of an eminent panel (probably max 3 people), drawn from people with absolute integrity and neutrality (between the Acharyals devotees) and most importantly having a very broad footing with the community. (No such people unfortunately pop up in my mind as I write this, but such people must exist).

3. Let this panel study the causes that were at the root of that Diwali night incidence and what happened afterwards. This must be a thorough review, and should not have any sacred cows. And publish the findings.

4. I believe that the same panel should be empowered to make changes in the management of Sri Matham, as well as new initiatives to strengthen the Sri Matham based on the findings.

5. Unless we undertake such an effort, people in our community who are turned off will be turned off regardless of the outcome of the cases for a long time to come.

My two cents.

Regards,
KRS
 
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Dear kunjuppu ji,

I agree with you when you say "even though the mutt has been in kanchi for more than thousand years, it has absolutely no impact on the immediate surroundings". In my opinion Jayendrar was trying to create that impact. He started a big university where a number of poor students are being educated on full subsidy. He constructed hospitals in many places where poor get treatment almost free of cost( childtrust, Hindu mission and Tamilnadu hospitals) while others pay nominal charges. He travelled into the slums and consecrated small temples because he wanted to stop people from converting to other religions. He used all his influence with the political leaders to ban conversion and cow slaughter through legislation. I dont agree that he was creating a brahmin club. He was the first acharya in his leniage to identify himself with the society at large and hinduism in particular, true to being a jagadguru. There were more NBs visiting him than any other acharya of the mutt in the past. Ponder over....

Dear anandb

I think you have expressed the most balanced view than any of us in the forum so far. Great analysis. Please do us a favour by suggesting how do we move forward from here to energise the demoralised Kanchi mutt and its devotees.
hi rrvvr,
its true....IDHUVUM KADANTHU POGUM..........KALATHIN
KATTALAI.........as in srimadbhagavatham......kali asked
place in king parikshit's kingdom ,,he gave 4 places ..
where kali can stay...dyutha griham ..madira sala..
veshya grihamm ....and in gold too...but we can
see in maths too(in general)...so its yuga dharmam...
in this kali yuga....

regards
 
Dear Sri tbs ji sir,

What is true? What is the drift of your post here?

Please elaborate, because I do not understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that there is no 're-energizing' of the Sri Matham needed, because in Kali Yugam these things happen?

Or are you saying that things will improve on their own?

Regards,
KRS

hi rrvvr,
its true....IDHUVUM KADANTHU POGUM..........KALATHIN
KATTALAI.........as in srimadbhagavatham......kali asked
place in king parikshit's kingdom ,,he gave 4 places ..
where kali can stay...dyutha griham ..madira sala..
veshya grihamm ....and in gold too...but we can
see in maths too(in general)...so its yuga dharmam...
in this kali yuga....

regards
 
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I fully endorse the recommendations expressed by Sri KRS ji. Let us introspect objectively and do the corrective action wherever required. Improvement is a continuous process. Let the mutt move in a vibrant and dynamic direction offcourse with proper checks and balances. All the devotees will support such a move
 
Dear Sri tbs ji sir,

What is true? What is the drift of your post here?

Please elaborate, because I do not understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that there is no 're-energizing' of the Sri Matham needed, because in Kali Yugam these things happen?

Or are you saying that things will improve on their own?

Regards,
KRS
hi KRS sir,
in kali yugam these things happen... things will improve on their own..this is my personal opinion...may not be others...this is
not for any particular matham/or any sanyasi organisation..
this very general opinion...

regards
 
tbs,

kindly explain the attribute to kali yugam. it appears to me, that all ills are attributed to this yugam.

my grandmother used to say the same thing.

i think, that man can make an attempt to mitigate the impact of evil. unless we try to do something against it, evil is going to prevail.

by attributing all bad stuff to kali yugam, are we not washing our hands of any responsibility or obligations to set things right.

we have -18% rainfall this year. if we leave it alone, lot of poor people will die of famine.

thanks to a great system called food corporation of india, developed by c. subramaniam, (food minister 1960s, a devout hindu, gounder, tamil) we have plugged a hole in the food gap, which for the past millenium has caused millions of indian deaths.

no more deaths due to famine in india.

evil does not occur because of the yugam i think. it is not yugam centric. evil is caused by man. man has to correct it. no use, sitting on our hands, and complaining that the mosquitoes are biting, is there?

ofcourse, some divine help, would always be welcome :)

thank you.
 
Blaming the Kaliyuga, plannets, time, date,fate, period etc are not going to solve the real issues concerning the mutt. I invite a stanza from Arunagirinathar's Tiruppugazh

நாள் என்ன செய்யும் வினைதான் என்ன செய்யும் எனை நாடிவந்த கோள் என்ன செய்யும்
கொடுங்கூற்று என்ன செய்யும்
குமரேசர் இருதாளும் சிலம்பும் சலங்கையும் சண்முகமும்
என் கண் முன்னே தோன்றினவே

Arunagirinathar says date, fate, plannets, evil forces etc will not affect him and he sees only Lord Muruga with all his glory.

Let us do root cause analysis objectively as suggested by Sri KRS ji & others. Let us try to identify real problems affecting the Kanchi Mutt and find solutions. We have to introspect instead of simply blaming it on fate, kaliyuga etc.
 
Dear rrvvvr ji,

Dear kunjuppu ji,

I agree with you when you say "even though the mutt has been in kanchi for more than thousand years, it has absolutely no impact on the immediate surroundings". In my opinion Jayendrar was trying to create that impact. He started a big university where a number of poor students are being educated on full subsidy. He constructed hospitals in many places where poor get treatment almost free of cost( childtrust, Hindu mission and Tamilnadu hospitals) while others pay nominal charges. He travelled into the slums and consecrated small temples because he wanted to stop people from converting to other religions. He used all his influence with the political leaders to ban conversion and cow slaughter through legislation. I dont agree that he was creating a brahmin club. He was the first acharya in his leniage to identify himself with the society at large and hinduism in particular, true to being a jagadguru. There were more NBs visiting him than any other acharya of the mutt in the past. Ponder over....

Dear anandb

I think you have expressed the most balanced view than any of us in the forum so far. Great analysis. Please do us a favour by suggesting how do we move forward from here to energise the demoralised Kanchi mutt and its devotees.


I am sad that the brahmin community did not rally around the Acharya when he was persecuted. The community was split into two halves and many became doubting thomases. To a ordinary person like me, the truth is quite evident. This was no ordinary mutt and this was no ordinary Acharya having been selected by the Paramacharyal himself. The mutt was not existing for a profit motive and moreover the charges are foisted against him by a dubious character like Jayalalitha. The media was conducting a circus of its own. Moreover we can recall the dignified behavior of the Acharya himself during this episode. He was not heaping abuses against his opponents. To me all these things stack up to say what kind of person he is. I don't need any panel or committee to exonerate him. What is the guarantee that these committees function in a unbiased manner?

So what I am trying to say here is if one is looking at re energizing the mutt, firstly the Acharya needs unstinted support from the community. Just take the example of the other religious institutions. Sai Baba has been criticized so many times but never lost the support of his followers. SSR himself was a disciple of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi known more for his sexual exploits but he is never questioned. Vijay Mallya, the liquor guy donates a number of houses to Sringeri Mutt but no one ever discusses. Sai Baba and Mata Amrita does enormous charitable work but the origin of funds is never questioned. Come to the Catholic Church's enormous resources in India or madrassas being funded by extremist Deobandis who in turn get funded by the Saudis no one wants to discuss. It is only in TN, that everything the Kanchi Mutt does is dissected thanks to the Dravidian jokers and the tamil media consisting of circus clowns. If Sri Jayendrar goes on a fund collection drive, it becomes the talk of the town and guess who is talking the most? It is the tamil brahmins, the traditional supporters of the mutt.

It is always said it is the leader who galvanizes the followers but the followers should not be a bunch of unruly people fighting amongst themselves. What plagues our Acharya is he is operating on a minefield with a godless government at the helm poking fun at him, a biased media and disunited supporters or lack of supporters.

Like MS Dhoni says that if he asks his team to face battle tanks they should do so without asking questions. Before asking the question what is plaguing our Acharya and the mutt, I will ask myself what is plaguing me as a supporter of the mutt. Only when I find an answer to my question will I dare to give an answer to the mutt and its problems.

thanks
 
Dear all,

It is really heartening to see that we are narrowing down towards our objective after long series of debates. Just to summarise the discussion so far into a few point on which all of us seem to agree,


  • Mahaperiyaval and Periayaval had lived in different times and hence their individual paths should not be compared
  • Both have made immense contributions to the society in their own way
  • Sri Matham is an institution which all of us would be happy to see re-gain its lost glory
  • Intentions of the matham and the gurus have always been good but it is the individuals who managed the ventures who have let him down
  • We need to identify a panel of noble men who would undertake the task of clearing up the mess, starting with, identifying the root causes of its downfall
  • All of us would be ready to contribute in whatever small manner we can, to re-energise the mutt
I request all of you to ponder over and add to the list. As suggested by KRS we need to identify some eminent persons with integrity. Any suggestions on the names? To my mind Gurumurthy is one. Once we decide upon the action plan and identify decide upon the panel, we can possibly send them the gist of the findings and recommendations that emenate from this thread and request them to take up the cause. Any other suggestions?
 
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Dear anandb,

I think we have been penning at the same time and missed each other's opinion. I take your point that his behaviour during those trouble days tells us a story what sort of an inner self he possesses though he did certain things in the past which was not liked by some. Thanks for your views but I urge you not to desert the cause by withdrawing from it at this juncture. Please keep your thoughts flowing.
 
Thanks all. Let us collectively work for improvement of the Kanchi mutt. I hope mutt administration will also listen to our views.
 
Dear Sri rrvvvr Ji,

Yes, let us draft a communique' based on the points we discussed and send to our Gurus. I don't know about Sri Gurumurthy and how much neutrality he would have or his standing within our community. I thought that he stopped vocally supporting the Periaval after certain point. Anyways, I am sure there are people in the know about who should be approached. Thank you for this initiative.

Regards,
KRS
 
Dear Sri anandb Ji,

You said: "To me all these things stack up to say what kind of person he is. I don't need any panel or committee to exonerate him. What is the guarantee that these committees function in a unbiased manner?"

I think you have misunderstood. No one is talking about 'exonerating' the Gurus. We are talking about examining the conduct of the Sri Matham management that opened up the risk and made things to happen as they did. The questions to ask here is: Why our gurus were put in such a position where things were easily manipulated by people with agendas? Was it necessary for Periaval to travel to Andhra at that time (I am sure someone knew or had an inkling of what was coming). These need to be understood and the day to day management of the Sri Matham needs to be aligned with the long term strategic goal of the institution.

Yes, it also pains me greatly that some in our community did not come to his support. But many, many like me who did not have regular connection to the Sri Matham did come together to support him during that time. I still am in contact with the friends I have made during that time - we were a team of five people, not particularly devotees of Periaval, who came together and did acheive certain goals to protect the good name of our Gurus at that time.

But there are people out there, who are very well intentioned good people, who feel betrayed by the whole episode. And I suspect this is rather a large group, who as I have said are devotees of Maha Periaval but not necessarily of that of Periaval. We can lecture these people that they are wrong, but the fact remains that they are out there. No amount of comparing our Gurus to the treatment of other Godmen is going to change their minds and hearts. The only way to do that is to have a panel that the whole community would accept as eminent and clean up the mechanisms at the Sri Matham. As Sri rrvvvr Ji points out, there are individuals who have let down the Gurus and the Sri Matham.

Please think through this and you will see the merit in what we are proposing. Thank you.

Regards,
KRS
 
After the incident on the fateful Deepavali day, I met lot of vaishnavites at Kanchipuram and they all felt very bad about the whole episode. Similar sentiments were expressed by Madhwas also.

To make the investigating committe highly impartial and objective, we can include a vaishnavite, a madhwa and probably another smartha who is normally a devotee of Sringeri mutt. Tomorrow let us not say that some one in the committee is close to Paramacharya or the present Acharyas.

The manager of Sri Varadaraja Perumal temple is normally appointed from a member of smartha community since the conflict among the vaishanavites (Vadakalai and Thenkalai) is quite common there. The same logic can be extended to Kanchi mutt administration review committee also.

Again among the committee members, NRI`s and people who are living outside South India who had no influence in the administration of the mutt earlier could be accommodated.

Again people who have held administrative service positions, retired CEO 's of private sector companies, retired Judges/investigation agency officers from CBI etc could be accommodated.

I wish, we avoid strictly people with political affliations (irrespective of the party or organisations).
 
The discussion has now settled towards the basic question of re energising the Mutt devoid of emotional approach. In this way you will defnitely achieve a better understanding to the problem engulfed the mutt.
If you look into the history of news items and look for the unsaid item one will be understand the situation.

The problem started with Meenakshipuram when RSS roped in the major mutts of india to unite. Till then kanchi mutt (Maha perival) was sticking to the religious side only.
When HH viswesa Theertha stepped in, he could handle without damage to his mutt. But HH JS is attracted to the activities of RSS, and they have misguided him to a great extend and he changed to Dhanda prayoha from his docile approach . In one of the visits to chennai city ( at that time it was a rare and great event), there was stone and chappal throwing on his convoy near saidapet AD Hostel.
But in the subsequent visit, RSS made his Pattinapravesam from the same Saidapet point.And for the entire stay during that period RSS provided secutiry cover to him and he visited all slum NB areas. For this he gave special appearance to one of saga drills in private. RSS and the Ashok singal started roping him for the Ayodhya issue when there are many in -fighting pontiffs in Ayodhya itself

This made him to seek permission of mahaperiyaval to go out for social cause and HH JS made a statement of jan jagran( hindi word gives the meaning of vigil/REJUVENATION/RENAISSANCE

This period preceded with appointment of HH VS, and srhi Mahaperiva made a statement that he left the mutt and he is only a sanyasin and the madathipathy is HH Js. During this period JS left mutt without informing mahaperiva and made a statement that he will not return to mutt .

The mutt got into the legal problem as HH VS is only a minor, the HR property with a minor without a custodian.Through a great manaouring of shri RV, mahaperival called the subRegistrar of Kanchipuram to the mutt and took control of the legal situations and issued a statement that JS will return to mutt.(news). Shri mahaperiaval send a personal (??) Video advising to return based on some issues.

Shri JS returned and the pattina pravesam was held at Jalakandeswarar Temple.vellore. This temple got into the noteriety with the involvement of RSS and the war of words was between the then collector Gangappa and Shri Nagaswamy, Archelogy Dept head. (Strangely these two persons were same street dwellers)

From then on, JS mind is not a docile sanyasin but Sarsanghchalak from kanchi mutt.

Now the rejuvenation of Kanchi mutt whether on the lines of Maha periva or social justification and rejuvanation of Hinduism on the lines of RSS !!
 
good post chims. :)

congrats.

very informative too. my own focus re all this, is focussed on getting justice for sankarraman's family. i tend to support the underdog.

re rss.. etc. i am always of the view violence only begets more violence. ultimately all the fighting and killing and hatred is futile. there will be no winners.

in the end, the ones who suffer most are the followers of the purveyors of the violence. those widows, harmed sisters, killed brothers... all of them our own. the leaders usually get away scot free. honestly i do not know why the rss or the vhp folks were allowed to enter the mutt. oh well!!

rejeuvenating hinduism, i think, can be in several forms. the form that i prefer, is to do away with the restrictions of castes, treat our dalits as our own brothers and sisters, priesthoods be professionalized, focus on charity and social upliftment than on doing the big yajnas. co-exist with other faiths or the faith-less.

above all, have an ecumenical rather than a dogmatic attitude towards our faith. we have evolved over the milleniums, and it is time to shed ourselves of those values, which even though we attend the same temple, and worship the same God, deny dignity to certain sections.

we need to reinforce the feeling among ourselves, and our group, that before God all of us are equal. no manu or varnashrama is valid in the world of today. was probably never valid, but we cannot turn back the clock.

like the proverbial phoenix, there are opportunities for this mutt to rise out of its own ashes, if it sets an example of an ecumenical forward looking egalitarian faith.

thank you.

ps.. sounds like we could do with a revival of vivekananda?
 
First the present mutt administration has to accept the `review committee'. Once this is done, probably we can give our all our suggestions to the empowered committee . Till then let us keep our fingers crossed.

All the best
 
Panam, Padavi , Pughaz - It does not go with any Sanyasi

Dear Elders, Namaskarams.

My views here are not intended to hurt any one . My apologies to every one for this post if any one feel that my wording have hurted them.

Sanyasi should never have any likings for the following three things :

1. Panam
2. Pughaz
3. Padhavi or Status

All these three "P"s will lead to a Perasai . Sanyasi is one who is Mutrum thurandavar ( Munivar)

When you have Perasai for any of these 3 then we will have many "pisasu" enter not just in your mind but also in every one around you { this has happened truely}


There is a chapter in Theivathin Kural - which talks about Perasai and in that mahaperiyava clearly wriiten that "Kargodaga Vasam" is sure for any sanyasi who has not left the worldly things and having links with Panam and Politicians . Evvalavu Satyamana varthaigal !! Avar Ninaithathu nadakkum and nadanthadu.


Neeyum, naanum panam, padhavi enru "peyai" alaiyalam. Panam, Deposit , Sothu , Nilam enru madathipadhigal ellam alaiya koodathu. Ivai ellam thanaka thedi vara vendum avargalai.

Mahaperiyavalukku idhu ellam sollamal thedi vandathu. Avarukku pinnal vandavargal ivaigalai thamaga thedi ponargal. { any one want to differ with me}

Izhantha pughaz thirumbuma? Madathin Izhandha Pughaz thirumbuma ? Periya Kelvi kuri than....... Idhai ellam therindu kondu statement eduvum vidaamal poojaiyil concentrate seidhal ellarukkum nalladu....... Idahi ellam vittu vittu BJP, RSS, VHP enru solli kondu irundhal ... oru payalum odavikku vara maataan. Idhu Veda Vakku - sathyam

Few years back there is one person - he constructed a small thatched shed for a small devi temple in TN. Today he is worth 2-3,000 Crores. Nothing is accounted. He has Eng college, MBA College, Medical College, Dental college now. No seat is given free of cost. Money is getting minted in both temple as well as in college. This concept is adopted by many sanyasi's . Education Institution attracts huge tax savings. Education Institutions can get huge sized land. Education institutions can account huge black money. Most of these instituitions take money in cash only........ These money is linked in many illegal activities - including funding politicians etc In another few years, there is going to be a riot in one of the sanyasi's place . His assets are worth over Rs 20,000 crores. He has no disciples identified for his wealth in his mutt. There are so many bandicoots who will benefit . They are waiting for that day to come . Until such time they all will keep on going around him in the pretest of "Seva"

Are there any lessons learned out of this whole incident?

Some punyathma's have died with guilty in their conscious - One such person is Neekanta Iyer

Regards
 
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Dear rkpatham Ji,

There are many aredent followers of Periaval in this Forum. I will caution anyone to go back and pen past happenings here in a way that may hurt their sentiments.

Let us move forward with an eye towards uniting all of Kanchi well wishers. Thanks.

Regards,
KRS
 
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