Sanskrit set to replace German across Kendriya Vidyalayas

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Sanskrit set to replace German across Kendriya Vidyalayas



Sticking to its rigid stand on the issue and overruling the Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan (KVS) suggestion, the Smriti Irani-led Union Ministry of Human Resource Development on Tuesday decided to discontinue German as third language right away instead of waiting for the new academic session to effect the changes.

Sanskrit will now replace German as third language in Kendriya Vidyalayas.


While the Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan pointed to possible resentment and logistical issues pertaining to a sudden discontinuation of German language teaching under this option, the HRD ministry has preferred it to a gradual phasing out of German as the third language by 2017-18.


It has now been decided that in view of the difficulties students of Classes VI, VII and VIII would face due to this midsession policy change, they would now be taught the syllabus of Sanskrit for the first term of Class VI and their evaluation for respective Formative and Summative Assessments would be conducted accordingly.
Also, the grades obtained by the students in German/Foreign language for their respective first term would be considered for finalising compilation of results towards the end of the year.


The Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan had advised against immediate discontinuation, saying that it would lead to a lot of resentment among affected children and their parents and that it would also have logistic problems related to teaching and evaluation examination. It had also pointed out to the HRD ministry that if a student moves to a different school, as is common in the KV system, he/she will find it difficult to cope with studies.


Highly-placed sources confirmed that the HRD ministry rejected the first alternative suggested by the Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan - to phase out German as the third language over the next two academic years by 2017-18. The Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan had argued that this option would cause least disruption to students affected by this policy change as the existing students would continue their studies but new entrants to the sixth standard would have to choose Sanskrit as the third language as decided by the KVS Board in a meeting on October 27.



Sanskrit set to replace German across Kendriya Vidyalayas : North, News - India Today

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[tbs]

hi

why german?....what abt french or italian.....we are crazy indians....atleast we can learn italian...becoz sonia gandhi's mother

tongue....YAHAAM SAB KUCH CHALTA HAI....MERA BHARAT MAHAAN.....lol

 

[sarang]

1. Following the three language formula of the govt, kendriya vidyalayas (kv) were offering hindi, english and samskrit or any other indian language in their curriculum. Foreign languages were offered as option in many schools. In 2011, this was changed and samskrit was replaced by german in violation of policy, without proper approval, with the assistance of max muller bhavan, gothe institute and german govt grants. The sanskrit teachers were forced to learn german to keep their jobs, and some were asked to quit. All this was done through the back door in violation of existing language policy. The old practice in line with the policy is restored now. It is amazing that the media is deliberately obtuse and spreads wrong information, blames RSS which has no connection with this issue. After some years the samskrit teachers will be asked to go because they do not have proper, university approved qualifications in german.

As per the info available, the schools are free to offer any foreign language course if resources are available.

When any university dept. offers a course, say, canadian literature, it gets huge grants from canadian govt in cash, books, exchange programme, scholarships, visits and conference funding. Acceptable in post graduate programmes, but not in basic schooling.

 

[sarang]

Illegal back door imposition. BJP/RSS should have objected then!

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Human Resource Development

23-September-2011 16:36 IST​

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Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan Signs MoU with Goethe-Institute for Teaching of German​

A Memorandum of Understanding was signed between the Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan (KVS) (represented by Mr. Avinash Dikshit Commissioner) and Goethe-Institute/Max Mueller Bhavan (represented by Mr. Heiko Sievers, Regional Director) here today. It was signed in the presence of Shri E. Ahamed, Minister of State, Human Resource Development and Ms. Cornelia Pieper, Minister of State, German Federal Foreign Office.

The MoU aims at

• imparting communicative German language training to students of Kendriya Vidyalayas.

• Training and supporting teachers of KVs in implementing the German project involving teaching German language in Kendriya Vidyalayas.

• Equipping schools with materials to support the teaching of German language.

• To gradually enable KVS staff to independently take over German language education, with the MMB playing an advisory role.

The KVS has taken a decision to offer German as a third language in its schools. A large number of the Kendriya Vidyalayas have shown an interest in introducing German into their school network and have already started teaching German as a part of the curriculum. The Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan is a premier organization in India administering over a 1000 schools

The Goethe-Institute Max Mueller Bhavan (MMB) is an organization that supports the teaching of German. It offers organizational and academic support to partner institutions in the host country that choose to offer German as a Foreign Language as a part of their curriculum. .

 

[krish44]

no sense in flogging dead horses.

langauages like sanskrit,pali, latin should not be foisted on anyone

they have no commercial utility

children would like to learn a language which will help them earn a living

sanskrit can produce vadhyars for performing homam, nothing more

 

[sangom]

no sense in flogging dead horses.

langauages like sanskrit,pali, latin should not be foisted on anyone

they have no commercial utility

children would like to learn a language which will help them earn a living

sanskrit can produce vadhyars for performing homam, nothing more

Let Modi govt. do more such glorious deeds (so that people like Shri Sarang can tom tom). It will alienate the gennext who are now able to go to Germany for study and/or jobs rather easily but will, hereafter have to end up as Vaadhyars in India or USA!

 

[tbs]

no sense in flogging dead horses.

langauages like sanskrit,pali, latin should not be foisted on anyone

they have no commercial utility

children would like to learn a language which will help them earn a living

sanskrit can produce vadhyars for performing homam, nothing more

hi

this is looklike ...OLDER PPL CAN'T EARN MONEY....SO WE CAN KICK THEM OUT OF HOME....PUT THEM INTO SOME ORPHANAGE...

BECOZ THEY ARE USELESS FOR INCOME TO THE FAMILY....is it okay?

 

[sangom]

hi

this is looklike ...OLDER PPL CAN'T EARN MONEY....SO WE CAN KICK THEM OUT OF HOME....PUT THEM INTO SOME ORPHANAGE...

BECOZ THEY ARE USELESS FOR INCOME TO THE FAMILY....is it okay?

Not exactly, tbs sir,

Since Sanskrit is a nearly dead language (even brahmanas have forsaken it for more than 2 centuries!) and is not helpful in finding employment, whereas knowledge of German, a living language, actually helps our youngsters in getting a share of the job potential in Germany, is it not wiser to teach German also? Why discard it altogether?

 

[sarang]

German is available to those who want, as samskrit is available to germans. In your over enthu to demonize Hindus, brahmins and samskrit, you wear high power filters.

Not exactly, tbs sir,

Since Sanskrit is a nearly dead language (even brahmanas have forsaken it for more than 2 centuries!) and is not helpful in finding employment, whereas knowledge of German, a living language, actually helps our youngsters in getting a share of the job potential in Germany, is it not wiser to teach German also? Why discard it altogether?

 

[krish44]

there is inter govt agreement on teaching of german in KV

It is foolhardy to play with international obligations.

Luckily lot Of indians are studying in good univ in germany and are also working in IT companies there

Why fiddle with an existing order?

This is what happens when uneducated/undereducated people are at the helm of affairs

 

[renuka]

no sense in flogging dead horses.

langauages like sanskrit,pali, latin should not be foisted on anyone

they have no commercial utility

children would like to learn a language which will help them earn a living

sanskrit can produce vadhyars for performing homam, nothing more

Dear Krish ji,

Knowledge should not be gained for commercial purposes only.

Many people have asked me "why did you learn Sanskrit when it has nothing to do with your job as a doctor..how did it benefit you?"

My answer is '" I love it".

But people who ask me this are invariably Hindus!LOL

Sanskrit is just not for prayers alone..its also for fun and relaxation.

You Indians in India are wasting a golden opportunity ..Sanskrit language is so easily available for study in India yet everyone calls it a dead language.

 

[renuka]

Many of us also learn music but we do not work as musicians. I learnt western music and enjoy playing the piano even though I do not earn money thru playing the piano.

Its just for the heart and soul..one learns music..so same with Sanskrit..one can learn it for the sake of pleasure.

 

[sarang]

1.The mou is illegal as it is against the three language policy of the congress govt.
2. The mou expired in September.
3. Indian languages are more important than foreign languages.
4. We studied German in IITM. Thosands learn German, French, Japanese in schools, colleges and private institutes. Both for the sake of language and for perceived benefits. All kV students will not land in Germany.
5. Samskrit is alive, learnt by many. It will not vanish as most of our prayers, rituals and scriptures are alive and used in daily life.

there is inter govt agreement on teaching of german in KV

It is foolhardy to play with international obligations.

Luckily lot Of indians are studying in good univ in germany and are also working in IT companies there

Why fiddle with an existing order?

This is what happens when uneducated/undereducated people are at the helm of affairs

 

[tbs]

Not exactly, tbs sir,

Since Sanskrit is a nearly dead language (even brahmanas have forsaken it for more than 2 centuries!) and is not helpful in finding employment, whereas knowledge of German, a living language, actually helps our youngsters in getting a share of the job potential in Germany, is it not wiser to teach German also? Why discard it altogether?

hi sir,

i can understand your view...in reality...we indians does not know our cultural heritage....even LATIN IS DEAD LANGUAGE...

STILL VATICAN USE IT.....WE SEE ONLY MONETARY/EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS....EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD PROUD OF

THEIR LANGUAGE AND CULTURE....BUT WE FOLLOW BRITISH/AMERICAN CULTURE AND WE PROUD ABOUT THEIR HISTORY....

WE NEVER LEARN FROM ENGLISH LEGACY.....

 

[tbs]

hi


here some hidden agenda...may be german govt funding it....may be maxmuller institute benefits from this rule....i studied german...

when i was in chennai as sanskrit school teacher...i attended german class in bharatiya vidya bhavan in mylapore and some

classes in max muller bhavan....just to learn and compare with sanskrit....the gramatical are very similar to sanskrit....

i like german language....but i like my sanskrit too....

 

[sangom]

hi sir,

i can understand your view...in reality...we indians does not know our cultural heritage....even LATIN IS DEAD LANGUAGE...

STILL VATICAN USE IT.....WE SEE ONLY MONETARY/EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS....EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD PROUD OF

THEIR LANGUAGE AND CULTURE....BUT WE FOLLOW BRITISH/AMERICAN CULTURE AND WE PROUD ABOUT THEIR HISTORY....

WE NEVER LEARN FROM ENGLISH LEGACY.....

Shri tbs Sir,

India is still having a lot of unemployment and poverty. Youngsters are in search of optimum employment (and earnings). Such employment is available in foreign countries like Germany and since the deutsche mark is a valuable currency, people are able to save considerably and send money home. Priding on one's language is not at all a priority, or even a wise step, when the country is in such a state. Nurses are one main category like this. But they cannot go to IITs to learn German.

We, as a country, should be proud of "our language", I agree, but what is/was the language of "this country"? Definitely not Sanskrit; it might have been prakrit, paua, paisachi (which is supposed to have close resemblance to the Rigvedic language and its inflections) or Pali/Ardhamagadhi in which the common people conversed but all of which have gone completely out of use. Exhuming Sanskrit which was the priestly language, and may be similar to the Latin which was just one of the many Italic languages like Umbrian, Oscan, Faliscan, etc., all of which were Italic languages which have become dead, while only Latin has survived may be because the Roman Church used it. However, Sanskrit is definitely not a common man's language, nor is it used except in one Karnataka village. Hence, whatever the legality or otherwise of it may be, making Sanskrit available instead of German is a retrograde step, I believe. And, except RSS sympathisers and their co-travellers, this step will not be a welcome thing.

 

[sarang]

One (nurses included) can get a working knowledge of german or italian or japanese in three months; courses are available outside the education system in all towns and cities. All kv students are not going to germany for that matter.

But they cannot go to IITs to learn German.

There cannot be a sillier statement than this. Fitting german or any foreign language in the three language system is illegal.

Samskrit is a classical language, living language and all indian languages have borrowed from samskrit. The amount of literature available and digitized now is an inspiration to many to learn it at any age just to enjoy its rich content. Listen to
[h=1]Jagadguru Shankaracharya of Sringeri: Greatness of Sanskrit (Anugraha Bhashanam at Coimbatore)[/h][video=youtube;0UavldvDoz8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UavldvDoz8[/video]

 

[krish44]

court has issued notice to govt today on its stand on removal of german from KV syallabus

 

[sarang]

NEW DELHI: Amid the raging controversy over replacing German with Sanskrit as the third language in Kendriya Vidyalayas, HRD minister Smriti Irani on Friday strongly defended the decision, saying the existing arrangement was in violation of the three language formula.

However, she said German would continue to be taught as an "additional subject of hobby class".


The minister said "an investigation" has already been launched into the signing of an MoU in 2011 enabling German being taught as the third language.

"In the board meeting we have asked how the MoU was signed which was a violation of national policy of education.

"It violated the constitutional right of the child and the state. It is not about promotion of Sanskrit but about safeguarding constitutional rights," she told reporters while clarifying the ministry's stand on the issue.

The board of governors (BoG) of the Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan (KVS), headed by Irani, had in its meeting on October 27 decided that "teaching of German language as an option to Sanskrit will be discontinued herewith".

Ministry officials said that an MoU signed between KVS and Goethe Institute-Max Mueller Bhawan in 2011 was not referred to the ministry at any stage.
The matter came to light when the MoU was set for renewal this year.


The three language formula as enunciated by the National policy on Education states and subsequently by the National Curriculum Framework 2005 states that Sanskrit may be studied as a modern Indian language apart from Hindi and English.

When the matter came up for hearing, the HRD ministry on October 15 this year, the government in an affidavit had pointed out the "inconsistencies" in the MoU and said the matter has been remitted back to the KVS for consideration.

 

[sarang]

Ignorance and insensitivity personified.

no sense in flogging dead horses.

langauages like sanskrit,pali, latin should not be foisted on anyone

they have no commercial utility

children would like to learn a language which will help them earn a living

sanskrit can produce vadhyars for performing homam, nothing more

 

[krish44]

How many have a copy of valmiki ramayana home or read? some tamils might have read kamba ramayana though.

simlarly though Bhagvat Gita access is more easy , most take it with translation in some other language such as hindi ,tamil or english.

most familiar with devanagri script of hindi might read sanskrit . many may not get its meaning.

even vivaha mantras in sanskrit are recited only by the priests and the marrying couple go through te ceremony without knowing its meaning with no translation

facilities.

in another generation or so even such things will die .

in thengalai sects iyengar brahmins , even temple recitations of alwars are in tamil.

so sanskrit study will be taken as an imposition by tamil groups.

even tamil nadu govt has protested against introduction of sanskrit as third language in KV schools

 

[tbs]

How many have a copy of valmiki ramayana home or read? some tamils might have read kamba ramayana though.

simlarly though Bhagvat Gita access is more easy , most take it with translation in some other language such as hindi ,tamil or english.

most familiar with devanagri script of hindi might read sanskrit . many may not get its meaning.

even vivaha mantras in sanskrit are recited only by the priests and the marrying couple go through te ceremony without knowing its meaning with no translation

facilities.

in another generation or so even such things will die .

in thengalai sects iyengar brahmins , even temple recitations of alwars are in tamil.

so sanskrit study will be taken as an imposition by tamil groups.

even tamil nadu govt has protested against introduction of sanskrit as third language in KV schools

hi

even tamil nadu govt against hindi.....can central stop teaching in hindi anywhere in india?.......tamil nadu as a peanut

political issue of hindi.....kerala/karnataka/andhra has hindi and sanskrit.....

 

[tbs]

hi

the tamil nadu is against hindi...but whole india is not against hindi.....

 

[sangom]

The truth of the matter and the bluff of the govt., can be seen from the following:—

Dear Ms Smriti Irani, JFYI: A Note On The Three-Language Formula

 

[sarang]

Samskrit as official language supported by many.

Law minister ambedkar supported samskrit as official language; many south indians supported samskrit. It lost bya single vote, the deciding vote by the chairman of the panel, who normally must not vote. Pseudo seculars won the day, but samskrit will get back its glory.