Sunday Reflections

[krish44]

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Another sunday has come .around

Time for idly wondering -is it worth working for a living?

If one looks around . Very few work hard for making a living.

They do not seem to be missing work . they are doing well for themself.

In joint families many go thru life without doing anything much.

They seem to be supported by others.

one of them recently celebrated his sathabishekam attended by all relatives including yours very truly. it was a grand affair

After a very undisturbed living cared for by parents ,siblings and later by working wife,his children are now supporting him .

Full credit to him , no bad habits -drinking ,smoking, no actions breaking the laws of the land. Only too incompetent and lazy to work

he is liked by all except those who supported him to live a lifetime.

coming to think of it ,sincere hard work hardly pays.

Those in fixed income govt jobs go thru life doing repetitive work to get a pittance at the end of the month. after years of this way of living ,they retire and are

put into a corner by friends and relatives.

However , those who indulge in speculation in india in share market , land purchase/sale , in cricket betting or horse racing, foreign currency, gold speculation seem to be doing amazingly well.

they are admired by many and live a grand life .

They are surrounded by favour seekers,sometimes even given awards recognising their special talents .They are treated as successes in life.

Seeing all this , I am unable to decide which category of people I should admire

 

[vgane]

I would like to work as much as possible...If there is no work on a particular day then it looks as if the day is wasted....I prefer to read, write & travel..Can take small risk

 

[talwan]

Sir,
work keeps your mind and body engaged and naturally life expectancy increases. Idle mind tends to worry, fear too much affectif our mind balance. Idle body is the starting point many of the illness.
So not for the money,fame, recognition etc one should keep engaed mentally and physically to keep going (till the God calls back).
Alwan

 

[prasad1]

However , those who indulge in speculation in india in share market , land purchase/sale , in cricket betting or horse racing, foreign currency, gold speculation seem to be doing amazingly well.

they are admired by many and live a grand life .

They are surrounded by favour seekers,sometimes even given awards recognising their special talents .They are treated as successes in life.

Seeing all this , I am unable to decide which category of people I should admire

I admire people like you. I can taste the idlis.

 

[krish44]

western civilisation promotes work ethic.

muslim religion prohibits earning even interest on money kept in banks . Islamic banks do not give interest on money kept. so no speculation is permitted for money

making.

As brahmins we believe in being wage earners in stable jobs after good education . we prefer to keep our money safely in banks or convert to gold ornaments ,

Speculation of any sort is not acceptable to our folks.I fact we do not like to engage in any business. We do not mind working for business men getting a fixed monthly

income. this mindset has enabled brahmins to lead very uncomplicated simple lives though they might not be millionaires.

 

[V.Balasubramani]

I would like to share the following article appeared in The Hindu which in my opinion will be the voice of most of TBs.

Having attended Office for 3-4 decades, with age growing and energy diminishing, TBs tend to lead a simple and peaceful life especially at the fag end of their life, as they know millionaires will have to face millions of challenges. No pain no gain.

"Retired but untired

“Now that you are completely retired, how do you kill your time?” is a question I face when I meet friends. I tell them I don’t have any time to kill, as I have all the time in the world to spend on my hobbies, such as reading, writing and cooking.

My day starts at 4 a.m. After a cup of coffee or tea, I am at my desk going through my e-mails. And then I start writing: at least four articles will be stored in my desktop at any given point in time. At 6.30 a.m. I go for a walk.

I return by 7.30 a.m. and go to the kitchen. I prepare my own breakfast, and cook one or two items for lunch — an activity I share with my daughter-in-law who operates a separate kitchen on the first floor of the house. I wanted both my son and I to have our respective spaces.

Once I get into the kitchen it becomes hectic. I spend a lot of time cleaning utensils, keeping things in the right place, wiping the granite top — all of which takes more time than the time taken to cook. It takes less than 45 minutes to cook a decent South Indian meal — excluding the time taken to cut vegetables. I also find time to pluck the flowers from the potted plants around our home, which my late wife had lovingly tended. Then I have a quick bath and perform puja. By now it is 11 a.m. and I am physically tired. I have been on my feet for nearly five hours. It is time to take a break. I relax on my chair, a simple but functional duplicate of the unwieldy Lazy Boy sofas you find in NRI homes in the U.S. I use this time to read newspapers and catch up on books.

Read more at: http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/open-page/retired-but-untired/article7342976.ece

 

[tbs]

hi krish ji,

hamaara jeevan.......PAANCH DIN NAUKARI...EK DIN GROCERY......EK DIN LAUNDARY....LOL

 

[yesmohan]

Working in an office/own business, is just like doing "YOGA". (From 10 to 5/8). ONE can forget the world, family and what not even ONE's own self by immersing and involving one self, in work. When friends working around started returning home one by one, that ONE will come to this world, take a chit from the pocket to remind one’s self about what assignment next regarding the request/order/ instruction received in the morning from mother/sister/ daughter/wife/ to purchase things on that day.

To continue the “yoga” even after retirement, that ‘ONE’ should have some preparatory plan of action to lead the retired life. Now, almost in all renowned establishments, they give the required training in advance to the prospective retirees, how to lead the retired life with a plan of action.

Some tips: to the retirees and retired:

“ONE” should have a hobby in door / out door. Time schedule for doing any thing on his own.

“ONE” should have understood the concepts of ‘time-management”.

“ONE” should realize that he was supervising/overseeing/controlling/intruding in others work in office as part of his official duty/role and he was paid for that. At home, “ONE” should NOT continue the same with a watching eye. Do not say “dos and don’ts” to others.

“ONE” should not have the habit of advising others for any thing and every thing. Advice is the cheapest thing in the world that one can offer others free of cost but that “ONE” will not accept from others at any point of time.

“ONE” should have shed away personal “EGOS” if any. (this could be done only by rigorous mind practice)

“ONE” should have the quality of “get - along well with others “(It would become a habit if “EGO” is thrown to dust bin)

“ONE” should have the habit of doing one’s work on his own without depending on others.

……………… Tips are only illustrative and not exhaustive. Even if 50% is adhered to in practice,
“ONE” could lead a happy retired life and face any eventuality.

 

[Raji Ram]

Easiest formula to be happy! 'Live and let live'!! eace:

 

[krish44]

Living entails living in the present without looking too much at our past ,accept and maximise our happiness by engaging in activities that please us without hurting those

around us.

This is a large ask. We being part of a family or social set up are constrained in many ways.

How to avoid the normal pitfalls of day to day living and engage in pleasurable activities is a challenge for many.

The trick is too have abundance of activities and interests. Keep moving from one to another and have high degree of mobility.

If one can be busy and enjoy what one is doing , half the battle is won.

Best is to not engage with those whose company one does not like.

Ignoring such people is a solution. Running away from them is another.

It is a large world with billions of people.

We can always find people with whom we are at peace and can bond.

 

[V.Balasubramani]

இப்படியும் சில மனிதர்கள்

வாழ்க்கைக்கு ஓய்வு தேவை தான் தம்பி. அதுக்காக, சும்மா இருக்க விரும்பாத மனசுக்கும், உடம்புக்கும் வலுக்கட்டாயமா ஓய்வு கொடுத்தேன்னு வைய்யி, அந்த மனசே உன்னை அழிச்சிடும்.' நடுங்கும் கைகளுடனும், நடுங்காத குரலுடனும் தேநீர் ஆற்றியபடியே பேசுகிறார் 73 வயதில், தனியாளாக தேநீர் கடை நடத்தி வரும் மாதவி பாட்டி.


சென்னையில், அதிக வாகன நெரிசல்மிக்க சாலைகளில் ஒன்றான, மேற்கு மாம்பலம் ஆரியகவுடா சாலையின் மத்தியில், ஒரு சின்ன தள்ளுவண்டியில் இருக்கிறது மாதவி பாட்டியின் தேநீர் கடை. கடந்த 30 ஆண்டுகளுக்கும் மேலாக, இப்பகுதியில் தேநீர் கடை நடத்தி வருகிறார் இவர்.


இத்தனை வயசுக்குப் பிறகும், எதற்காக இந்த உழைப்பு?


எனக்காகத் தான்! வேலை செய்யலைன்னா, சோம்பேறி ஆயிருவோம். வயசான காலத்துல வீட்டுக்குள்ளே இருந்தா, பொழுது போகாது; பக்கத்து வீட்டுல போய் உட்கார்ந்தா, தேவையில்லாத கதைகளை பேசத் தோணும்! இதெல்லாம் விட, 1 ரூபாய், 2 ரூபாய்க்கெல்லாம், பிள்ளைங்க கையை எதிர்பார்த்து நிற்கணும். உடம்புக்குள்ளேயும் வியாதிங்க நிறைய வந்திரும். இப்ப பாருங்க... நல்லா உழைக்கிறேன்; நோய் நொடி இல்லை; நிம்மதியா சாப்பிட்டு, சந்தோஷமா இருக்கிறேன்!
தன் அனுபவ வார்த்தைகளால், உழைப்பின் மகத்துவம் பேசும் மாதவி பாட்டியின் பூர்வீகம், கேரள மாநிலம் திருச்சூருக்கு அருகில் இருக்கும் ஒத்தபாலம். இவரின் 18 வயதில், 17 ஆண்டுகள் வயது வித்தியாசம் உள்ள மாமா நாராயணனுடன் திருமணம் நடந்திருக்கிறது! அப்போதிலிருந்து மாதவி பாட்டி சென்னைவாசி. ஒரு வருட திருமண வாழ்க்கைக்குப் பிறகு, கணவனின் உடல்நிலை கோளாறாக, அவர் நடத்தி வந்த தேநீர் கடைக்கு, இவர் ஒத்தாசைக்கு செல்ல வேண்டிய கட்டாயம். அப்போது தொடங்கிய மாதவி பாட்டியின் உழைப்பு, கணவரின் மறைவுக்குப் பிறகும் தொடர்கிறது.


இத்தனை வருட உழைப்பில் உங்களின் சேமிப்பு?

Read more at: http://www.dinamalar.com/supplementary_detail.asp?Id=25796&ncat=1274

 

[a-TB]

I would like to share the following article appeared in The Hindu which in my opinion will be the voice of most of TBs.

Having attended Office for 3-4 decades, with age growing and energy diminishing, TBs tend to lead a simple and peaceful life especially at the fag end of their life, as they know millionaires will have to face millions of challenges. No pain no gain.

"Retired but untired

“Now that you are completely retired, how do you kill your time?” is a question I face when I meet friends. I tell them I don’t have any time to kill, as I have all the time in the world to spend on my hobbies, such as reading, writing and cooking.

My day starts at 4 a.m. After a cup of coffee or tea, I am at my desk going through my e-mails. And then I start writing: at least four articles will be stored in my desktop at any given point in time. At 6.30 a.m. I go for a walk.

I return by 7.30 a.m. and go to the kitchen. I prepare my own breakfast, and cook one or two items for lunch — an activity I share with my daughter-in-law who operates a separate kitchen on the first floor of the house. I wanted both my son and I to have our respective spaces.

Once I get into the kitchen it becomes hectic. I spend a lot of time cleaning utensils, keeping things in the right place, wiping the granite top — all of which takes more time than the time taken to cook. It takes less than 45 minutes to cook a decent South Indian meal — excluding the time taken to cut vegetables. I also find time to pluck the flowers from the potted plants around our home, which my late wife had lovingly tended. Then I have a quick bath and perform puja. By now it is 11 a.m. and I am physically tired. I have been on my feet for nearly five hours. It is time to take a break. I relax on my chair, a simple but functional duplicate of the unwieldy Lazy Boy sofas you find in NRI homes in the U.S. I use this time to read newspapers and catch up on books.

Read more at: http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/open-page/retired-but-untired/article7342976.ece

Dear Mr Balasubramani:

Interesting article to read. What is the age group for whom the ideas in this thread is addressed - over 70? or over 60? or over 50?

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Dear Mr Balasubramani:
Interesting article to read. What is the age group for whom the ideas in this thread is addressed - over 70? or over 60? or over 50?

a-TB Ji,

Thread opener states that 'one of them recently celebrated his sathabishekam attended by all relatives including yours very truly. it was a grand affair

After a very undisturbed living cared for by parents ,siblings and later by working wife,his children are now supporting him .

Full credit to him , no bad habits -drinking ,smoking, no actions breaking the laws of the land. Only too incompetent and lazy to work

he is liked by all except those who supported him to live a lifetime.

coming to think of it ,sincere hard work hardly pays'. (Posting # 1)


It is his opinion that 'Sincere and hard work hardly pays.

I just reproduced an article (Posting # 11) wherein the 73 years old Senior citizen has more willingly taken up hard work and thus lead a peaceful life. There are many Senior citizens who still believe in hard work which definitely pays.

I believe in hard work even after retirement. I keep busy and I am a senior citizen. God has blessed me with good health. I don't take normally any medicine. Lead a very happy and peaceful life by keeping busy from dawn to dusk.

 

[krish44]

Many after retirement do unproductive work[defined as income non generating] to keep themselves busy .

They do it to occupy themselves and spend waking hours.

They may claim to be busy and say that they get mental peace or enjoy good health due to that.

Some spend hours at temples or meditating

Every one has his own way of coping with life after retirement.

It is useless to argue which is better

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Many after retirement do unproductive work[defined as income non generating] to keep themselves busy .

They do it to occupy themselves and spend waking hours.

They may claim to be busy and say that they get mental peace or enjoy good health due to that.

Some spend hours at temples or meditating

Every one has his own way of coping with life after retirement.

It is useless to argue which is better

Many are interested in making best use of their time productively by making money. It is money all that matters for them. In the illusion, they fail to earn all other recommended good things inlife and few lately realise that it is a 'mad mad world'. lol

 

[krish44]

IMHO , Well educated ,well off people after retirement could contribute their skills,brainpower and money if spare for betterment of society in some way

They can reach out to the needy and help them to engage productively by imparting some skills for their employment and financially make it possible.

They can use the services of the poor for low skill jobs at home . Each well off family can easily support two or three poor by employing for works like cooking,

running errands, and help in education of their children.

There are lot of social causes. Which call for educated people sparing their time. Counselling students to cope with exams, women facing domestic abuse or at offices,

alcoholics with a drink problem. if one looks around one can find umpteen causes.

if one has money,brain power and time one can do a lot.

money making is a useful goal after retirement if one has the capacity. one can always use it for good causes if one feels guilty about having too much money.lol

 

[Raji Ram]

........ Interesting article to read. What is the age group for whom the ideas in this thread is addressed - over 70? or over 60? or over 50?

This is the age of voluntary retirement - retire when the age is over 50!

Hence some senior citizen resorts (homes) have the minimum age for admission as 50!!

 

[vgane]

If entrepreneurship is in our veins no one can stop us from working provided we are healthy..My father cannot keep quite even at the age of 88...He recently completed construction of a house & kept himself busy from 5.30 AM to 10 PM...

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Many after retirement do unproductive work[defined as income non generating] to keep themselves busy .


It is useless to argue which is better

One may write in this Forum blah blah ... of doing things for good causes giving sage advices to others through out the day which is very easy. But think only about money, money all the time.

They forget the fact that they unfortunately spend not less than 5-6 hours unproductively to sleep everyday, of course, I hope they will be seriously thinking about making good money and enriching their life in their colourful dreams too.lol

At least in dreams........ poor guys!

 

[V.Balasubramani]

The retirement age with some of the State Governments is 56 and 58 and it is 60 in Government of India service. In defence services, large number of staff retire between 36 to 46. I think it is not the numbers that matters in retirement. It is attitude that matters. There are people who don't retire at all until they breath their last.

We have and had people like Desikan among us who was a social activist and was busy even in his eighties and not sitting before a system and going on typing blah blah postings about keeping busy by giving sage advice untiringly though-out the day irrespective of the fact whether others listen or not. lol

Here is an article published in The Hindu about R. Desikan who passed away recently.
.....................
Consumer activist R. Desikan passes away

Activist R. Desikan, who spearheaded the consumer movement in the State, passed away on Saturday evening at his home at Vettuvankeni. He was 83.

Born in Srirangam in 1933 to Raghavachari, who ran an automobile business and Ranganayaki, Desikan, Chairman Emeritus of Consumers Association of India, studied in Madras Christian College and later moved to Mumbai where he worked in Reader’s Digest as an advertisement manager.

“It was in Bombay at the Reader’s Digest that we met and got married. We moved to Chennai in 1972 and printed our own magazines. He then ran the South Madras News, a tabloid from 1974 to 1983 after which he got full-time into the consumer movement,” recalls Nirmala Desikan, his wife, who is Chairman and Managing Trustee of CAI. “He lived his life for the consumer, thinking about how he could improve their life. Though he came across a lot of hurdles, he still ensured that the consumer’s view point was taken to the policy makers,” she adds. The couple has two daughters. His last rites were held on Sunday evening.

S. Saroja of the Citizen consumer and civic Action Group, who has been associated with Desikan for several years now, recalls he would remember small things about people. “He would make you feel special. He was quite active till the end and even on Saturday, he was conducting discussions on how the movement should be taken forward. We were to participate in a programme next week.”

The veteran activist began working full-time with the consumer movement in the State in 1983

Source: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...vist-r-desikan-passes-away/article7365311.ece

 

[krish44]

One may write in this Forum blah blah ... of doing things for good causes giving sage advices to others through out the day which is very easy. But think only about money, money all the time.

They forget the fact that they unfortunately spend not less than 5-6 hours unproductively to sleep everyday, of course, I hope they will be seriously thinking about making good money and enriching their life in their colourful dreams too.lol

At least in dreams........ poor guys!

Money is not made by thinking about it.

Money goes to those who enable others to make money for them utilising their brain and paying them for their efforts.

One must learn to give first generously to collect later if required.

Money not collected later is charity. Money later collected is our own to be enjoyed in full.

How about this for life philosophy?

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Money is not made by thinking about it.

Money goes to those who enable others to make money for them utilising their brain and paying them for their efforts.

One must learn to give first generously to collect later if required.

Money not collected later is charity. Money later collected is our own to be enjoyed in full.

How about this for life philosophy?

Just read in another thread that Napoleon Hill who is an inspirational writer & thinker has said that ‘Whatever the mind can conceive and believe it can achieve.’

So think atleast from now onwards and start growing. lol

 

[krish44]

Men with capital like to use it effectively to multiply it. They use it to engage brains of people with no enterprise and grow richer.

We do not require inspiration from Napolian hill.

We are street smart indians who understand how local business is done and know how to thrive.lol

 

[V.Balasubramani]

We are street smart indians who understand how local business is done and know how to thrive.lol

It is reported that one BJP MLA produced a fake certificate to claim SC status

It is again reported that one AAP Law Minister has fabricated Provisional Certificate

It is all happening.

Without thinking about the consequences, trying such ideas to come up in life will land one in trouble.

Have you not read the thread ‘Think or Sink’ or ‘Think or blink’.

Just at least go through these threads leisurely try to think in terms of coming up in life as recommended by Napoleon Hill. lol

 

[krish44]

It is reported that one BJP MLA produced a fake certificate to claim SC status

It is again reported that one AAP Law Minister has fabricated Provisional Certificate

It is all happening.

Without thinking about the consequences, trying such ideas to come up in life will land one in trouble.

Have you not read the thread ‘Think or Sink’ or ‘Think or blink’.

Just at least go through these threads leisurely try to think in terms of coming up in life as recommended by Napoleon Hill. lol

this post has nothing to do with money making.

some minister/MLA producing false certificate/degree for caste/edu qualifications.

most hide behind bhuchandi excuse to cover their incompetence or inabilty to make money.

philosophical threads /help books of foreigners are meant for those who want to cope with life around them ,unable to come to terms with it .