the attack on singer Chinmayee in the net

[Raju1949]

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The prompt action by the police in the case of objectionable tweets received by the singer Chinmayee is being criticized saying that the police is acting because Chinmayee is a Brahmin. Many have defended her dtractors also simply because she is a Brahmin. Even Karunanidhi has obliquely commented on this saying that if Kanimozhi were a brahmin she wont be criticized. I beleive brahmins should come forward and support Chinmayee for her courageous action

 

[prasad1]

Sorry? What are the details of the attack. No one should be physically assaulted. No one should be persecuted because of their birth, caste, religion etc.

In the same token there is no reason to raise caste issues in every incident. Do we protest against Rama of Ramayana because He attacked a Brahmin?

 

[Raji Ram]

Have we not seen members attacking one another in this public forum!! :ranger:

'IdhellAm net-la sagajamappA'!!

 

[tbs]

hi
may be some kind of publicity stunt....its net attack.....

 

[renuka]

I know this singer is related to one of the members here.
So may be I should ask that member the true story.

 

[sarang]

1. Chinmayi must have given solid evidence, as the alleged culprits have been identified and arrests made or in progress. If it is just a complaint, police will not act so quickly.
2. `Since she is brahmin and perhaps innocent, press is muted. Otherwise this incidence would have received more coverage.
3. Since dalit oputfits are up in arms and have staged protests against her urging police to take action, there is a caste element in this. Obviously, the outfit has no evidence, hence the protest.
4. The accused appear to be pro LTTE (from other sources), and have been hounding her with derogatory and offensive remarks, since she refused to appear in a programme supporting the cause.

LTTE, kudankulam, foreign ngo funding, ltte, missionaries, non hindu dalits - all are related in a way for creating troubles. We can get a fair picture of the issue only if thuglak, dinamalar or dinamani write about it in detail.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Sorry? What are the details of the attack. No one should be physically assaulted. No one should be persecuted because of their birth, caste, religion etc.

Very simple. Yes! Unfortunately, Prasad seems to be oblivious to the ground reality. Brahmin bashing is bread and butter of TN politics.

In the same token there is no reason to raise caste issues in every incident. Do we protest against Rama of Ramayana because He attacked a Brahmin?

The caste connection is made by the attackers not the person that was under attack (i.e. chinmayi in this case).

Info about this issue can be found here: WhatToNameIt: Facing abuse and a backlash of rumours Of course, this is chinmayi's own blog. You may want to scour the net further to get a complete picture.

The following news article appeared in first post.
Singer Chinmayi smokes abusive men out of their internet anonymity | Firstpost

There are some comments for and some against Chinmayi.

 

[prasad1]

Very simple. Yes! Unfortunately, Prasad seems to be oblivious to the ground reality. Brahmin bashing is bread and butter of TN politics.



The caste connection is made by the attackers not the person that was under attack (i.e. chinmayi in this case).

Info about this issue can be found here: WhatToNameIt: Facing abuse and a backlash of rumours Of course, this is chinmayi's own blog. You may want to scour the net further to get a complete picture.

The following news article appeared in first post.
Singer Chinmayi smokes abusive men out of their internet anonymity | Firstpost

There are some comments for and some against Chinmayi.

Sir,
You have preconceived notion that one must experience the power of Atombomb first hand to know the effect of the bomb.
I know the ground reality to an extent (of TN).
If you read my post you will realize that I did not condone any attack. Mr. TBS raised the prospect to a deferent level.
If you see "poochandi" behind everything, that is no way to live a life.

By raising such subjects in absentia of any proof, create confusion, but nothing else.
Have you heard the story of the boy who cried wolf too many times. False alarm can also be dangerous. If a person is physically abused, and the authority will not take care of the complaint, there is room for public outcry to redress the issue. But to raise the caste issue at a drop of hat, and lament solves no purpose.

 

[sarang]

Thanks for the links; chinmayi deserves all the support.

Today's news is a blogger was arrested because he said that karthi chidambaram has made more money than vadra.

Very simple. Yes! Unfortunately, Prasad seems to be oblivious to the ground reality. Brahmin bashing is bread and butter of TN politics.



The caste connection is made by the attackers not the person that was under attack (i.e. chinmayi in this case).

Info about this issue can be found here: WhatToNameIt: Facing abuse and a backlash of rumours Of course, this is chinmayi's own blog. You may want to scour the net further to get a complete picture.

The following news article appeared in first post.
Singer Chinmayi smokes abusive men out of their internet anonymity | Firstpost

There are some comments for and some against Chinmayi.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

By raising such subjects in absentia of any proof, create confusion, but nothing else.
Have you heard the story of the boy who cried wolf too many times. False alarm can also be dangerous. If a person is physically abused, and the authority will not take care of the complaint, there is room for public outcry to redress the issue. But to raise the caste issue at a drop of hat, and lament solves no purpose.

Did you read the links that I posted? For a person who is an expert in posting links to news articles and cut-and-paste stories, it should not be diffcult to find more about this issue. Is it?

It has become a fashion to call others 'whining', 'lamenting' etc whenever an issue concerning brahmin community is discussed here. There is also lot of whining and lamenting by these very same people against those whom they accuse of lamenting and whining about these issues!

The issue is posted for discussion here. That is all. A person who is not interested can stay away or can politely tell why this is not a serious issue. There is no reason to belittle every other poster who may consider this a serious issue.

 

[prasad1]

Did you read the links that I posted? For a person who is an expert in posting links to news articles and cut-and-paste stories, it should not be diffcult to find more about this issue. Is it?

It has become a fashion to call others 'whining', 'lamenting' etc whenever an issue concerning brahmin community is discussed here. There is also lot of whining and lamenting by these very same people against those whom they accuse of lamenting and whining about these issues!

The issue is posted for discussion here. That is all. A person who is not interested can stay away or can politely tell why this is not a serious issue. There is no reason to belittle every other poster who may consider this a serious issue.

Sir,
You are the one who jumped to conclusion. Please read my post#2 again, I did not belittle anyone. You have taken up the role of Brahmin-protector, may be you think you are Parsuram. But unfortunately for you I am a Brahmin too. When the battle against EVR was going I did not see you protesting. You did not support the views of Brahmins putting down those opposing forces.

Let us not make it personal.
If you want the community to act as one, you must have the facts.
Mr. Raju's comment was

I beleive brahmins should come forward and support Chinmayee for her courageous action

I wanted clarification.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Let us not make it personal.

Funny that this comes from you. But let me leave at it here.

Coming to the issue, it is a simple matter to ask for more facts. But when provided with it, you have no comment about the issue. Instead you are harping on people lamneting, whining, creating false alarms, crying wolf etc etc.

So, tell me Mr. Prasad. What is your take on the issue? It is okay not to have any opinion but why jump on others who might be concerned with this issue?

 

[prasad1]

Funny that this comes from you. But let me leave at it here.

Coming to the issue, it is a simple matter to ask for more facts. But when provided with it, you have no comment about the issue. Instead you are harping on people lamneting, whining, creating false alarms, crying wolf etc etc.

So, tell me Mr. Prasad. What is your take on the issue? It is okay not to have any opinion but why jump on others who might be concerned with this issue?

Your posts that you claim to be proof, would not pass any test. Just read your own leads, if it is a police case, did you provide it. Police seems to be working on it. Mr. Sarang said it, so why not let it take its own course. What is your lamenting in TB site going to achieve.

 

[C RAVI]

I know this singer is related to one of the members here.
So may be I should ask that member the true story.

If what Renuka has said in her above post is the truth, let that member try to get the facts from Ms.Chinmayi or from her close relatives and present them before us, "exactly as been obtained".

I am sure the member will not twist the facts and present them here in a different way. Because, I believe the member being relative of Ms.Chinmayi would not do any injustice to her.

 

[prasad1]

Shri Kalabhairavar,

There are some realized Brahmin NRI's working outside India, some have settled themselves for ages outside India and there are some PIO's born and brought up outside India. For these people, the ground reality in TN is totally different. They are too realized and brilliant Brahmins that they could Know the Truth very well and could not tolerate what others could point out, figure out and could understand what exactly is the issue and why such issues are cropping up. For them anything in support of Brahmin community that is most warranted in the given situation is nothing but whining and lamenting.

If they have an iota of concern and respect, they can well express their views in a suitable manner that would help down playing the issue and would reveal their true concern about the Brahmin Community in TN. BUT, ironically they don't. Because either they fail to understand the ground reality in multiple hidden dimensions or they just want to showcase themselves as perfect humanist with pure heart and mind.


It is more ironical and funny that they still want themselves to be inclusive of Brahmin community



We can't afford to waste our time and energy, reacting to their responses.

Ravi,
You are becoming petty and nasty. I know you are frustrated, lonely , and miserable life. But no need to chase people and be nasty with your snide remarks. This was a conversation between two adults, and you have no business to butt-in.
[video=youtube;9YmmcT3a9G4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9YmmcT3a9G4[/video]

 

[prasad1]

Ravi,
This is for you.[video=youtube;Fa3PvA2kRlU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fa3PvA2kRlU[/video]

 

[amala]

I haven't read exactly what the issue is, i pray its nothing major. I just want to say that i am very proud that Chinmayi Sripada is my relative.

 

[amala]

Yeah she is a relative but estranged so sorry to disappoint you people. Get your facts elsewhere. Im just proud of her. Very level headed and bold girl not to mention a wonderfully accomplished singer.

 

[C RAVI]

Ravi,
You are becoming petty and nasty. I know you are frustrated, lonely , and miserable life. But no need to chase people and be nasty with your snide remarks. This was a conversation between two adults, and you have no business to butt-in.

Citing my lonely life and laughing at my plight reveals your true color. It reveals your level of maturity and wisdom. This cheap tactics of yours as escape route can not make you any better a person. Nor can make your points valid and make my posts senseless.

I am not the only one frustrated, miserable and lonely soul here. If you don't know any miserable soul here other than myself, that does not mean no such soul exists as member in this forum, other than myself


LOL!!! The filmy dialogue that you have posted here as youtube video is very much apt to your total personality. Nice to note that you could figure out about yourself with out the need for others to take the pain to show you who you are. Keep it up!!!


This is a public forum and any one can exchange their views with any one. There is no rule here that a member should not butt in the dialogues between the two.

Please don't over rule this forum.

 

[amala]

It is more ironical and funny that they still want themselves to be inclusive of Brahmin community

No I don't think it is at all. There is nothing saying that all Brahmins must have the same opinions especially wrt their community. In fact you will be hard pressed to find consensus of thought and opinion as Hindus, let alone Brahmins.

There is this thing I had read about Jews long back. I think its very apt for Brahmins, especially TBs. If you have 4 Jews in a room, you will get 5 different opinions! Such is life.

 

[prasad1]

no i don't think it is at all. There is nothing saying that all brahmins must have the same opinions especially wrt their community. In fact you will be hard pressed to find consensus of thought and opinion as hindus, let alone brahmins.

There is this thing i had read about jews long back. I think its very apt for brahmins, especially tbs. If you have 4 jews in a room, you will get 5 different opinions! Such is life.

lol

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Prasadji: I do not fault you for wanting more facts. You seem to assume ipso facto that the OP was blindly supporting chinmayi because of her caste. Why jump to conclusion and take potshots (comparison to ravana) without knowing the facts? Please tolerate my laments in this thread for some more time!

For those interested, a collection of abusive tweets agaisnt chinmayi can be found here.
Link!

Please go through the collection. Warning: Many of the tweets are vulgar.

Vulgar tweets against women are not uncommon in twitter. But, in case of chinmayi, she was attacked both personally and in reference to her caste. If the brahmin community itself does not condemn it, then who else is going to do it?!

 

[tbs]

No I don't think it is at all. There is nothing saying that all Brahmins must have the same opinions especially wrt their community. In fact you will be hard pressed to find consensus of thought and opinion as Hindus, let alone Brahmins.

There is this thing I had read about Jews long back. I think its very apt for Brahmins, especially TBs. If you have 4 Jews in a room, you will get 5 different opinions! Such is life.

There is this thing I had read about Jews long back. I think its very apt for Brahmins, especially TBs. If you have 4 Jews in a room, you will get 5 different opinions! Such is life.

hi
yes...you are rite...in many things we are similar jews.....especially TBs....a small different.....2 TBs make 4 different opinions...

 

[prasad1]

Prasadji: I do not fault you for wanting more facts. You seem to assume ipso facto that the OP was blindly supporting chinmayi because of her caste. Why jump to conclusion and take potshots (comparison to ravana) without knowing the facts? Please tolerate my laments in this thread for some more time!

For those interested, a collection of abusive tweets agaisnt chinmayi can be found here.
Link!

Please go through the collection. Warning: Many of the tweets are vulgar.

Vulgar tweets against women are not uncommon in twitter. But, in case of chinmayi, she was attacked both personally and in reference to her caste. If the brahmin community itself does not condemn it, then who else is going to do it?!

Yes it is bad. But I suppose freedom of speech will be invoked. It seems Ms. Chinmayi got the attention of the highest police officers, and they are helping her. Which is the proper legal way in a civilized country.

I did not want it to be one of the case of for or against Brahmins. As it appears to be against her personally.
I am sorry for what she is going through, but that is the price of fame.

I have no personal fight with you sir.

 

[C RAVI]

No I don't think it is at all. There is nothing saying that all Brahmins must have the same opinions especially wrt their community. In fact you will be hard pressed to find consensus of thought and opinion as Hindus, let alone Brahmins.

There is this thing I had read about Jews long back. I think its very apt for Brahmins, especially TBs. If you have 4 Jews in a room, you will get 5 different opinions! Such is life.

There allways exists multiple perceptions and different views for any given situation.

I allways welcome views and opinions in all its various froms, that can even be totally different from mine.

I have no issues with this. I am never against exchange of different veiw points.

All that matter is, one should be sensitive to feelings of the community at the receiving end and any contrary views expressed should be in a more responsible, caring and polite manner. It should not reveal a sense of exclusivity on part of the countering person. It should not show the others who all are standing for the community in unity in a wrong picture, by the same community people