The Triple Package

[biswa]

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There is a controversial recent book called The Triple Package written by a pair of husband-wife of professors in the US. One of the authors is a Chinese American lady (Amy Chua) who also wrote "The Tiger Mom" book.

The premise of The Triple Package is that the following qualities define successful groups of people (at least among immigrants to the US):

1. A superiority complex
2. Insecurity
3. Impulse control

The authors are careful to avoid racial issues by picking a diverse group of immigrants including Indians, Chinese, Nigerians, Iranians, Jews etc.

Now what if we apply this principle to India, would The Triple Package still be important? Which group in India best embodies The Triple Package?

 

[renuka]

There is a controversial recent book called The Triple Package written by a pair of husband-wife of professors in the US. One of the authors is a Chinese American lady (Amy Chua) who also wrote "The Tiger Mom" book.

The premise of The Triple Package is that the following qualities define successful groups of people (at least among immigrants to the US):

1. A superiority complex
2. Insecurity
3. Impulse control

The authors are careful to avoid racial issues by picking a diverse group of immigrants including Indians, Chinese, Nigerians, Iranians, Jews etc.

Now what if we apply this principle to India, would The Triple Package still be important? Which group in India best embodies The Triple Package?

In India it will very hard to pinpoint any one specific group becos the Triple Package Syndrome might be actually masked with humility.

So it might be hard to detect.

I was reading an article that at times those who display utmost humility might actually be wanting to reach the Number one spot even in humility!LOL

Everything eventually becomes a competition to show another that I am more humble than you.

Well lets try to analyse the Triple Package :

1)Superiority Complex...is a Rajas feeling

2)Insecurity...is a Tamas feeling

3)Impulse Control...is again a Rajas feeling.


So there is no Sattva feeling here.

So may be groups that DO NOT posses Sattva Guna might fit into this Triple Package.

What say you?

 

[biswa]

I think no. 3 is sattvik no? So can nobody be successful since nobody can have all 3?

 

[renuka]

I think no. 3 is sattvik no? So can nobody be successful since nobody can have all 3?

Nope...its Rajas.

When we exert control to even control a desire or impulse..its needs "action".

Its action that fights with an inner desire or impulse...its needs suppression or emotions or desires and fear might be the substratum.


So its Rajas in my opinion.

A Sattva person does not control anything...wait wait...I dont mean the Sattva is out of control and all hell break loose but a Sattva person does not identify himself with any desire or impulse becos it does not arise in him.

Coming to anyone being successful..that depends what is your definition of success.

My definition of success can be totally different from yours.

For me I feel life is a rapid succession of success and failure till the day we prefer to be equiposed in all situations.

Till we reach that state of mental equilibrium..no one is technically successful.

 

[JR]

Here I offer 3 qualities that might be beneficial on the Indian scene:

1. Not look down upon any profession: People vary in their capacity and capability. Parents wanting to mold children into a 'successful' profession is natural, however, with India getting a lot of jobs from abroad, especially the US these days, as well as opportunities for worldwide travel for practicing diverse professions having improved, (such as for Nurses, AID workers, Pharmacy Technicians, Cooks/Chefs), Indians who are less capable should be able to take up any profession and work hard in it and look out for avenues for foreign assignments to earn more and feel successful.

2. Not feel intimidated by any work: As global investment in India continues, people inspite of competition, have opportunity to 'branch out' and work out of their comfort zone to practice newer professions. An ability to accept challenges is important.

3. Insecurity - continued from the OP, this is an important feeling to have, to succeed professionally.

In all, in my observation, Gujaratis exhibit the above 3 positive traits for success within India.

 

[biswa]

Hmm, no "writer maamas" (as RRji would have said) on this thread? Only "writer maamis"?

JR ji your question about success is a good one. I would define it as "achieving what you set out to do". I think The Triple Package also applies to this definition.

 

[biswa]

You are right. Gujaratis are a classic example of success. However they dont seem to demonstrate "feeling of superiority". Most seem very down to earth and matter-of-fact.

 

[prasad1]

You are right. Gujaratis are a classic example of success. However they dont seem to demonstrate "feeling of superiority". Most seem very down to earth and matter-of-fact.

There are successful PIO is Panjabis (Sardars in particular), Andhras (Reddies), in addition to Gujarathis. The successful people are hard working, and do not mind any kind of work. If you are too picky about the time and dedication to the job you may have to accept lower goal. There is nothing wrong in accepting lower goal if you are going to be satisfied at that level.

I will be blamed for saying that TB particularly from Tamil Nadu are hung up on title and quality of job, But they aspire to match the economic success of others who do not care about those values.
Caste may play a role in India, but you got to forget it outside of India.

 

[biswa]

Maybe we should exclude PIOs from the discussion because most are successful, so there is no way to distinguish Punjabis or Telugus or Tamils.

But in the Indian context are some groups more successful than others? Sindhis? TBs? Parsis?

 

[renuka]

But in the Indian context are some groups more successful than others? Sindhis? TBs? Parsis?

If money is the measure for success than its Sindhis.

Parsis..do they consider themselves Indian?

I am not too sure about that?

 

[vgane]

If money is the measure for success than its Sindhis.

Parsis..do they consider themselves Indian?

I am not too sure about that?

Parsis are a minuscule group who have blended well with the populace!They are a nationalistic community! Really commend them!

 

[vgane]

The Gujarathis is a case in point..I was checking in a Hilton franchise in Cleveland, Ohio few days back..The franchiser is a Gujarathi couple ..They are very friendly, social and ready to help others! The hotel seems to have caught the fancy of the locals..

One example..I had to visit a local office..Not very far off..Had I hired a taxi it would have cost at least $ 10...But the husband volunteered to drop 2 of us without a fuss..That's how they have endeared themselves to their customers!

 

[biswa]

I think the Gujaratis are the opposite of the triple package. They are an exercise in humility and don't really appear to be insecure. This shows that the triple package is not necessary.

However it may be sufficient. Let's take the Parsis. Parsis do consider themselves Indians (take Ratan Tata for example) but they do have a distinct pride and characteristic arrogance. They are also typically insecure as their community is slowly dwindling. Parsis are also famously kanjoos and plain-living even though they have plenty of money. I think they validate the triple package hypothesis.

 

[vgane]

May be Punjabis fit the description of so called triple package snugly, while for Gujarathis it is just the opposite..Punjabis are good drama wale! That is the reason they are successful in Bollywood!!

Point to note: Both the PM & BJP Party president are from Gujarat..But it has not caused any revulsion any where..This shows how the community blends with all! Worthy of emulation!!

 

[biswa]

Vgane ji. Punjabi's are the opposite of the triple package. They have no insecurity at all. All Punjabi's believe that they are born to rule the world.

 

[krish44]

Indian triple package

!.Clan -guju,marwadis for eg.

2enterprise and personal austerity

3 honesty and hard work

at least two out of three are met by successful indian familes

 

[renuka]

Vgane ji. Punjabi's are the opposite of the triple package. They have no insecurity at all. All Punjabi's believe that they are born to rule the world.

I have never heard of a Punjabi saying he wants to rule the world.

They work hard and play hard and enjoy life.

 

[renuka]

Let's take the Parsis. Parsis do consider themselves Indians (take Ratan Tata for example) but they do have a distinct pride and characteristic arrogance.

Besided Parsis any other Indian subtype that have distinct pride and characteristic arrogance?

BTW when I was a teenager I followed my parents to their friend's house..their friends were Bongs.(Bengalis).

The lady of the house was kind of quiet but her husband went on and on talking about his community..even every food item served he was saying "this is Bengali this..this is Bengali that..we Bengalis this..this Bengali that" every sentence started as "we Bengalis..we Bengalis"

He did not seem arrogant but he was going on and on talking about his community as if he it was his last day on earth!LOL

I wonder why he was marketing his community so much..insecurity? May be?

I dont remember ever my parents inviting people over and keep talking about their communities!

BTW even when I go for medical meets somehow some try to find out what type of Indian we are.

Malayalis always try to ask who is Malayali..many a times if you sit next to one(who tells you eventually what they are)....they will ask "what is your mother tongue? Do you speak Malayalam?"

Now when anyone asks me "what is your mother tongue?"

I give weird replies to confuse them..I say "Silence is my mother tongue becos when I was born I did not know how to speak any language till a certain age"

Now no one asks me anymore!LOL

 

[vgane]

Vgane ji. Punjabi's are the opposite of the triple package. They have no insecurity at all. All Punjabi's believe that they are born to rule the world.

No Biswaji...They have no insecurities at all...They are always bragging about themselves...More offensive than defensive to protect their turf...Punjus are good service class not business class...

 

[renuka]

No Biswaji...They have no insecurities at all...They are always bragging about themselves...More offensive than defensive to protect their turf...Punjus are good service class not business class...

How come I have never met such a Punju?

 

[biswa]

I have never heard of a Punjabi saying he wants to rule the world.

They work hard and play hard and enjoy life.

Of course they don't say it. But they mean it. Have you noticed that any time you meet a Punjabi they start speaking in Hindi. They just assume that you have to speak in their language.

Plus Punjabis have zero self / impulse control. It is all about daru-sharu and party sharty.

[video=youtube;7Cvd2TK8iLk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cvd2TK8iLk[/video]

 

[biswa]

How come I have never met such a Punju?

Renukaji, I think you have had a limited sample size. You should spend more time in Delhi.

 

[prasad1]

Biswaji,
The thread started on good note, but has become strictly stereotyping different communities.

 

[biswa]

Stereotyping vs statistics, what is the difference? I thought you posted in another thread about how NIs stereotype SIs.

And what you mention as stereotyping, is not something I have read in a book. It is something I have experienced first-hand. As have others.

 

[sarang]

Heard after the recent unity walk flagged off by modi on Friday morning. See this gujju, he is making everyone run, and he is not running!

I think the Gujaratis are the opposite of the triple package. They are an exercise in humility and don't really appear to be insecure. This shows that the triple package is not necessary.

However it may be sufficient. Let's take the Parsis. Parsis do consider themselves Indians (take Ratan Tata for example) but they do have a distinct pride and characteristic arrogance. They are also typically insecure as their community is slowly dwindling. Parsis are also famously kanjoos and plain-living even though they have plenty of money. I think they validate the triple package hypothesis.