Two more tests for evidence of spiritual energy

[renuka]

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Dear Renuka,

I can say the same to you. When I talk of the evidence I saw, you refuse to accept it. You seem to be comfortable in your own illusory reality and loath to consider ideas that are different from your own.

So as I said this is getting meaningless.

My attempt at controlling pollution of the delhi, bangalore and chennai to show the truth again , hopefully will not be dismissed as coincidences if controlled.

Dear Sravna,

I am willing to accept evidence if there is evidence to start with. I am willing to admit mistakes if I see error in my judgment..but do you do that? Nope.

What you saw is not evidence.

Its just hear say and can not be documented.

But when Ray did the experiment everyone of us saw that none of your powers worked...yet you can NOT accept error.

Sravna...you are not God..know that.

BTW the Government of India would be taking measures to bring down pollution..the weather too might start to change at the end of the year..winds do blow too...also many others too would be praying for a solution and there will again be no shred of evidence that its becos of you.

 

[sravna]

BTW the Government of India would be taking measures to bring down pollution..the weather too might start to change at the end of the year..winds do blow too...also many others too would be praying for a solution and there will again be no shred of evidence that its becos of you.

here it goes

 

[Raji Ram]

1. BTW the Government of India would be taking measures to bring down pollution..

2. the weather too might start to change at the end of the year..

3. winds do blow too...

4.also many others too would be praying for a solution

5. and there will again be no shred of evidence that its becos of you.

Dear Renu,
Please understand that 1, 2, 3, 4 will happen ONLY because of spiritual energy sent from Sing. Chennai!

5. Wake up from ....... you, R R and others!!

 

[renuka]

Dear Sravna,

What if I start claiming that I can bring down the Air Pollution Index(API) of New Delhi too and how would you know if the API goes down becos of me or you?

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

What if I start claiming that I can bring down the Air Pollution Index(API) of New Delhi too and how would you know if the API goes down becos of me or you?

I knew that Renuka. That is exactly the reason I have chosen two other cities for control.

 

[raysundar]

I knew that Renuka. That is exactly the reason I have chosen two other cities for control.

I hope one of those is secretly the city in Malaysia that Renuka lives in. If it clears her polluted water problem that she mentioned, then that will be a bonus, surprise gift for her people!

 

[sravna]

Things done for all to see are blatantly denied. I understand Renuka's plan now. If done secrectly , she can stake claim for it.

 

[renuka]

Things done for all to see are blatantly denied. I understand Renuka's plan now. If done secrectly , she can stake claim for it.

Dear Sravna,

The fact is anyone can claim anything...I too can claim anything I want.

There have been a lot of coincidences in my life too which I do not claim is due to any powers.

The fact is you cant do nuts and yet you claim everything under the sun...where is God yaar?

Why isnt God as active as you?

Have you given that a thought.

BTW even when everything goes right for me in the line of my job I attribute everything to a higher power and certainly not me.

You seem to be the latest God in town.

Should we have a Sahasranamam for you?

 

[renuka]

I hope one of those is secretly the city in Malaysia that Renuka lives in. If it clears her polluted water problem that she mentioned, then that will be a bonus, surprise gift for her people!

The pollution was cleared off by the water works department after Diwali.

So no spiritual power involved.

 

[renuka]

I knew that Renuka. That is exactly the reason I have chosen two other cities for control.

What if I also use powers for all 3 cities? Or I use powers to retard your powers?

After Ray suspected I was the Devil that screwed up your experiment!LOL

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

The fact is anyone can claim anything...I too can claim anything I want.

There have been a lot of coincidences in my life too which I do not claim is due to any powers.

The fact is you cant do nuts and yet you claim everything under the sun...where is God yaar?

Why isnt God as active as you?

Have you given that a thought.

BTW even when everything goes right for me in the line of my job I attribute everything to a higher power and certainly not me.

You seem to be the latest God in town.

Should we have a Sahasranamam for you?

Cool down Renuka. There is no force on you to accept what I say. You may believe whatever you want to and it is perfectly ok with me.

 

[renuka]

Must start writing Sahasranamam for Sravna. This is my first line...members can add on.

Om Pradushan Vinashanaya Namah(Salutations to the destroyer of pollution)

 

[renuka]

Cool down Renuka. There is no force on you to accept what I say. You may believe whatever you want to and it is perfectly ok with me.

Dear Sravna,

You might want to practice some caution..for causing chaos in the world and interfering with the forces of nature and claiming credit for anything not done by you..when the Kalki Avatar comes He might go after you as his first target!LOL

Till now you have not spoken a word about God in this.

You have overtaken God..you have become like Hiranyakashipu who denied God in everything!LOL

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

You might want to practice some caution..for causing chaos in the world and interfering with the forces of nature and claiming credit for anything not done by you..when the Kalki Avatar comes He might go after you as his first target!LOL

Till now you have not spoken a word about God in this.

You have overtaken God..you have become like Hiranyakashipu who denied God in everything!LOL

Dear Renuka,

I call those who are selfish and against everything spiritual as ulta people because they attribute all their negative qualities to others and think they are above god. I hope you do not fall into that category of people.

 

[renuka]

Dear Renuka,

I call those who are selfish and against everything spiritual as ulta people because they attribute all their negative qualities to others and think they are above god. I hope you do not fall into that category of people.

Dear Sravna,

None of us in forum at least think we are above God..none of us claim to have spiritual powers and claim credit for anything not done by us.

In fact its you who finds fault with entire humanity saying they have negative values and no mind control and try to exert control on others by your display of the non existent powers.

You are the ultimate Deluder...the one who will lead the innocent and gullible like a Pied Piper of Hamlin.
Even Maya loses out to you!LOL

You still don't want to answer the role of God in this.

You are lucky you are Hindu..if you were a member of another religion and trying to by pass even God...I think you know what would happen.

 

[sravna]

Dear Renuka,

Let us get logical since you are piling up so many accusations against me. I stand by what all I said because those were my experiences and cant say otherwise. I think because of your strong background and belief in science you are not able to come to terms with the new reality even when hard facts are shown. You have a prejudiced and limited view of logic. You simply are not able to see logic when something does not fit into your notions of reality.

But I will continue my efforts in this forum and outside because I know I can prove my claims, even to your satisfaction soon. So hold on and keep your guns less blazing.

 

[sravna]

Here is hard data I want to talk about controlling air pollution.

Air quality Index,

delhi - 999
chennai -180
Bangalore-130

Let me try to bring chennai and bangalore to around 50 and delhi below 200 soon.

Update

Delhi-205
chennai-160
bangalore-90

 

[raysundar]

Update

Delhi-205
chennai-160
bangalore-90

Did you monitor other atmospheric factors that can cause/reduce pollution? What part of the reduction is your Spiritual contribution? Without proper scientific instruments or accounting for other natural or man made factors it is hard to justify your claims. I think only spontaneous unexpected changes in a controlled experiment need such spiritual explanations as yours. As I said if you can boil my water without my adding thermal energy to it then I can be convinced.

 

[sravna]

Did you monitor other atmospheric factors that can cause/reduce pollution? What part of the reduction is your Spiritual contribution? Without proper scientific instruments or accounting for other natural or man made factors it is hard to justify your claims. I think only spontaneous unexpected changes in a controlled experiment need such spiritual explanations as yours. As I said if you can boil my water without my adding thermal energy to it then I can be convinced.

Dear Shri Sundar,

I do not know all the factors controlling the air quality and that is the reason I pick and choose the cities and control only them.

 

[raysundar]

Dear Shri Sundar,

I do not know all the factors controlling the air quality and that is the reason I pick and choose the cities and control only them.

Are you focusing on the air molecules or the dust molecules? Whose spirit are you controlling? There is a long chain of spirits involved in the pollution process. Without proper knowledge of such details by simply trying at random your Spiritual powers I don't see how you are going to prove anything at all or convince anyone in this forum. Be realistic and pragmatic.
Vedic philosophy attributes various demigods/spirits to various natural forces/entities, such as Varuna, Vayu etc. Typically our Vedic philosophy deals with propitiating one or other of these demigods/spirits into physical action to produce some results. Back in the forum I believe RR had mentioned something about invoking rain(Varuna spirit) to invoke rain to clear pollution. It could be what we call hear as Verde Rain which is rain only in the upper atmosphere, which can also be used to precipitate dust particles.
I am only trying to help you and not to criticize your efforts in any derogatory manner.

 

[sravna]

Are you focusing on the air molecules or the dust molecules? Whose spirit are you controlling? There is a long chain of spirits involved in the pollution process. Without proper knowledge of such details by simply trying at random your Spiritual powers I don't see how you are going to prove anything at all or convince anyone in this forum. Be realistic and pragmatic.
Vedic philosophy attributes various demigods/spirits to various natural forces/entities, such as Varuna, Vayu etc. Typically our Vedic philosophy deals with propitiating one or other of these demigods/spirits into physical action to produce some results. Back in the forum I believe RR had mentioned something about invoking rain(Varuna spirit) to invoke rain to clear pollution. It could be what we call hear as Verde Rain which is rain only in the upper atmosphere, which can also be used to precipitate dust particles.
I am only trying to help you and not to criticize your efforts in any derogatory manner.

Dear Shri Sundar,

I normally do not work knowing the details of the problem. I think at the higher level that the problem be solved and the thought invokes spiritual energy in a subconscious way which solves the problem. I believe spiritual energy has inbuilt intelligence to solve a problem and can do material work so that real world problems are solved.

 

[renuka]

Update

Delhi-205
chennai-160
bangalore-90

Yes! It worked!

Yesterday I thought that I should bring the API down and prayed to God..and God answered my prayers! OMG OMG OMG my spiritual message reached God!

Hey Bhagawan! Ya Allah!

 

[sravna]

Yes! It worked!

Yesterday I thought that I should bring the API down and prayed to God..and God answered my prayers! OMG OMG OMG my spiritual message reached God!

Hey Bhagawan! Ya Allah!

Dear Renuka,

Sorry. See the latest update:

delhi-426
chennai-170
bangalore-111

but still reason to cheer

 

[renuka]

Dear Shri Sundar,

I normally do not work knowing the details of the problem. I think at the higher level that the problem be solved and the thought invokes spiritual energy in a subconscious way which solves the problem. I believe spiritual energy has inbuilt intelligence to solve a problem and can do material work so that real world problems are solved.

Dear Sravna,

Without knowing the basics how are we supposed to know the "higher" levels?

You make it sound as if you do not know the mechanics of how things work but expect Spiritual Energy to have an Auto Correct ability to rectify a situation.

In other words you are Inert(Jada) but the Spiritual Power you produce is suffused with Auto correct Consciousness?

This does not make sense at any level.

Its like as asking a serial killer to do a cardiac surgery just becos he knows how to use a knife.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

Without knowing the basics how are we supposed to know the "higher" levels.

You make it sound as if you do not know the mechanics of how things work but expect Spiritual Energy to have an Auto Correct ability to rectify a situation.

In other words you are Inert(Jada) but the Spiritual Power you produce is suffused with Auto correct Consciousness?

This does not make sense at any level.

Its like as asking a serial killer to do a cardiac surgery just becos he knows how to use a knife.

Dear Renuka,

Intelligence also works at the subconscious level. In fact as you get more and more spiritual thinking is more and more a subconscious level activity. Thoughts occur spontaneously without the conscious thinking process. Of course I should be able to bring the details to the conscious level if I worked on it.