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vAdham and vivAdham !

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Dr.Warrior Marundu - Varriyar Virundhu!!

No idea!

"Eat your food as your medicines.
Otherwise you have to
eat medicines as your food"



I don’t take any medicines as it is.

And I don’t go for virundhu which I normally avoid. In fact I am a poor eater.


I lead a quite simple life keeping busy and active through out the day


I thank God for all his blessings which includes good health and reasonable bank balance to lead a peaceful, happy and contented life which we enjoy everyday.
 
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''விருந்தும் மருந்தும் மூணு நாளைகுன்னு பெரியவங்க சொல்லி வெச்சிருங்காங்க ஏன் தெரியுமா? கிராமத்துல புது மாப்பிள்ளை

ஒருத்தன் இருந்தான். கல்யாணமாகி மூணு மாசம் ஆச்சு அம்மா வீட்டுக்குப்போகணும்னு சொன்னாள் மனைவி இவன் தன்னோட

அம்மாகிட்ட போய் “ யம்மாவ்! நான் மாமியா வீட்டுக்குப் போறேன் எப்ப திரும்பட்டும்? “ என்று கேட்டான். “சோத்துல
முகம்

தெரிந்ததும் புறப்பட்டு வந்துடு” என்று சூதனமா சொல்லிட்டா அம்மாக்காரி. இவனும் பொண்டாட்டியைக் கூட்டிகிட்டு பதவிசா

போய் இறங்கிட்டான் மாமியார் வீட்டில்.


அங்கே இவனுக்கு ராஜ உபசாரம். ஏழு வகை கறி சமைத்து வடை பாயசத்தோட தலைவாழை இலை விருந்து போட்டாள்

மாமியார்க்காரி. இவனுக்குச் சந்தோஷம் தாளலை. ரெண்டு நாள் கழிஞ்சது. விருந்து சாப்பாடு மாறி சாம்பாரும், வாழைக்காய்

கறியும் கிடைச்சது. ஆனாலும் பரவாயில்லை மாமியார் கைப்பக்குவம் ருசியாத்தான் இருக்குன்னு ரசித்து சாப்பிட்டான். இன்னும்

ஒரு வாரம் போச்சு வெறும் ரசமும் சோறும் தான் இதாவது பரவாயில்லை. அடுத்த இரண்டு நாள் கழிச்சு மாமியார்க்காரி சொன்னாள்,

''மருமக
னே! இன்னிக்கு வயல்ல வேலை இருக்கு நேத்து வெச்ச சோறும் கொஞ்சம் மிஞ்சிடிச்சு. எல்லோருமா சேர்ந்து பழையது

சாப்பிடலாமா?'' ன்னு கேட்டு அவ
ன் பதிலை எதிபார்க்காமலேயே தண்ணியும் சோறுமா கொண்டுவந்து வெச்சா. இவன் சாப்பிடத்

தலையைக் குனிந்தான். சட்டியில் இருந்த நீச்சத்தண்ணிலே இவன் முகம் தெரிந்தது.
.........
''


To read more:
virundhum marundhum
 
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So it is better to choose a wise person for vAdham or vivAdham! ........

Of course, one is, also wise in other's views; not in one's own views. ' lol '
 
vAdham or vivAdham is fine as long as there is no name-calling (e.g: comedy piece)

or posting abusive pictorial messages from Google images / other sources! :typing:

My take on this I should agree to agree - " Ignore" reaction must also to be considered during Vatham or arguments It is again a pakkavatham not the neurological but psychological variety ! It is a mild form of " sociopathic tendency" crops up while reacting socially in any vadham which is uncomfortable for them!! Dr.Warriors Marundu Ashta Chooranam is very effective I have tried he says like the Sensodyne Dentist on TV I have no idea
 
We learn a lot by our interactions in our dear forum, J J Ji.

One is to follow the adage,"Dhushtanaik kaNdAl dhoora vilagu"! :bolt:
 
Always locking horn with wise will prove to be a good learning experience, but such conflict in thoughts do happen very rarely.

But engaging in argument with selected few who have infinite amount of time left at their disposal should be avoided bcos
some may be interested in twisting the issue conveniently, some may be interested in derailing the topic and there may be few more willing to exhibit their mood by brick batting instead of contributing to the topic of the thread.

We have all sorts.lol
 
Always locking horn with wise will prove to be a good learning experience, but such conflict in thoughts do happen very rarely.

But engaging in argument with selected few who have infinite amount of time left at their disposal should be avoided bcos
some may be interested in twisting the issue conveniently, some may be interested in derailing the topic and there may be few more willing to exhibit their mood by brick batting instead of contributing to the topic of the thread.

We have all sorts.lol

I agree - Will you? this same sentiments expressed earlier!

Revise & re read the Poem if it is still visible!

Brahmin brahmin !
Shades of brahmin !!
 
the best ever argument by APJ abdul kalam

The best ever.............


An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and…..
Prof:: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof:: Is God good?
Student:: Sure.
Prof:: Is God all-powerful?
Student:: Yes..
Prof:: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn’t. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)

Prof:: You can’t answer, can you? Let’s start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student:: Yes.
Prof:: Is Satan good?
Student:: No.
Prof:: Where does Satan come from?
Student:: From….God…
Prof:: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student:: Yes.
Prof:: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student:: Yes.
Prof:: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof:: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?
Student:: Yes, sir.
Prof:: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof:: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son…Have you ever seen God?
Student:: No, sir.
Prof:: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student:: No, sir.
Prof:: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student:: No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Prof:: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student:: Yes.
Prof:: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn’t exist.
What do you say to that, son?
Student:: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof:: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student:: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof:: Yes.
Student:: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof:: Yes.
Student:: No sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture the after becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student:: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat..
But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student:: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof:: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
Student:: You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright
light, flashing light…..But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it’s called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Prof:: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student:: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof:: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student:: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can’t even explain a thought.. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.

Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof:: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student:: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student:: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student:: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student:: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Prof:: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
Student:: That is it sir… The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.

NB: I believe you have enjoyed the conversation…and if so…you’ll probably want your friends/colleagues to enjoy the same…won’t you?….this is a true story, and the

student was none other than …….

APJ Abdul Kalam, the former President of India.

Source: Source: http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritua...ity/the-best-ever-argument-by-apj-abdul-kalam
 
We can't break a man's head to prove that he has brain!

The postmortem on dead bodies show the existence of brain!

So, we can't have it as an example to prove the existence of God!

We can take these examples:

The cool breeze is felt but not seen.

Sweet smell of flowers is felt but not seen.

Goodness of music is felt but not seen.

(Nice music gives goosebumps; pathetic tune brings tears)

Similarly, the Almighty should be felt, though He is not seen!

And, those who don't feel the Almighty become atheists! :)
 
We can't break a man's head to prove that he has brain!

The postmortem on dead bodies show the existence of brain!

So, we can't have it as an example to prove the existence of God!

We can take these examples:

The cool breeze is felt but not seen.

Sweet smell of flowers is felt but not seen.

Goodness of music is felt but not seen.

(Nice music gives goosebumps; pathetic tune brings tears)

Similarly, the Almighty should be felt, though He is not seen!

And, those who don't feel the Almighty become atheists! :)

What you donot feel dosenot exist arugument is not correct for sure Close your eyes you donot see anything But everything exists It is true with every sensory perception and the relevant sensory organ! But when you feel some thing but not able to explain what really it is - Blame it on Almighty is correct? Does imagination is proof of existance of Almighty?
 
What you donot feel dosenot exist arugument is not correct for sure Close your eyes you donot see anything But everything exists It is true with every sensory perception and the relevant sensory organ! But when you feel some thing but not able to explain what really it is - Blame it on Almighty is correct? Does imagination is proof of existance of Almighty?
Please read my post carefully, J J Ji. What we feel and not able to see CAN exist - Hence Almighty exists for theists and does not

exist for atheist, though both don't see Him / Her. ''kaNdavar viNdilar; viNdavar kaNdilar'', is a popular quote, right? Even if a

person sees the Almighty, he or she will not be able to describe what was seen!

I have a strong belief that a great Force is controlling the universe and hence the earthquakes and tsunamis! That Force is prayed

by me, in the form of my Ishta DEvatA.

P.S: Concentrating on an image helps he mind NOT to wander like a monkey! :pray:
 
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I have a
strong belief that a great Force is controlling the universe and hence the earthquakes and tsunamis! That Force is prayed


If it is belief it cannot/ need not be questioned! But if it is felt which is a Cortical function through one of the sensory organs it could be probed Belief a subcorical function connected with Emotion - more psychological than - a cortical feeling!
 

P.S: Concentrating on an image helps he mind NOT to wander like a monkey! :pray:

Dear RR ji,

But what is wrong in being monkey minded?

I have started to feel uneasy of trying to make changes in myself.

Why can't we accept ourselves as we are?

If my mind wanders I let it wander cos when mind wanders sometimes it can be a beautiful experience.

I wonder why religion tries to suppress and control the mind..I used to believe before that the mind needs to be controlled too..but now I dont believe in controlling the mind anymore.

I simply let it loose and by letting it loose at times we do not even remember we have a mind.

I love the monkey of my mind.
 
When mind wanders ,do you talk to yourself?

Thats also a good experience.

many if you do it on the roads would look curiously at you.

Otherwise fine ,no harm in having a wandering mind .

It would be better also to have a roving eye along with it

It can lead to lot of imaginary thoughts .

Seniors have a lot of time for such occupations with all the time in the world for them
 
Dear Krish Sir,

Most of the people in Sing. Chennai talk on the roads; but there is some difference!

The oldies talk to themselves about their 'plight', since they can't talk much inside their homes. :blabla:

The youngsters talk to their chums on mobile phones, with the microphone hanging near their mouth! :blah:

But, from a distance we can't make out the difference! :D
 
When mind wanders ,do you talk to yourself?

Thats also a good experience.

many if you do it on the roads would look curiously at you.

Otherwise fine ,no harm in having a wandering mind .

It would be better also to have a roving eye along with it

It can lead to lot of imaginary thoughts .

Seniors have a lot of time for such occupations with all the time in the world for them

yes..you are right..when the mind wanders sometimes we unconsciously talk to ourselves.
Well at times people do wonder who one is talking too but these days no one cares to look anymore cos they are busy looking at their smart phones.

But when I exercise in the morning I let my mind wander..I blast some catchy music and imagine myself dancing to it..time flies when we let the mind wander.
 
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