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Were Moses and Jesus ‘Aryans’? (Part 2)

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Lion Gate of Bogazkoy, Turkey where 1400 BC inscription with names of Vedic Gods was discovered.

(Please read First part of this article and continue here:London Swaminathan)

1.When white skinned people started reading our Tamil and Sanskrit scriptures and started writing in ENGLISH, that too, with Christian names like John, Hart, William, David, July, Mary, Wendy we thought all of them are ‘’SCHOLARS’’!!!


2.Then came the ‘Ph.D.wallas’ challenging all the old views. Just because they have the big title DOCTOR in front of their names, we thought they are all ‘’SCHOLARS’’!!! (Read below how one ‘scholar’ insulted Kalidasa).


3. But both these groups knew that if they say anything against the established systems and age old beliefs, all of us will join together and smash them. So they first sowed the seeds of division. It is a slow poison that will kill us all in course of time. All of you knew what Lord Macaulay openly said the reason for introducing ENGLISH education in this country (India).
4.First they introduced Aryan Dravidian Race theory. There is no basis for this in Tamil or Sanskrit literature. Slowly they introduced Munda, Tribes and aborigines in to it. They know ‘’Samsaya Atma Vinasyati’’= Doubting Thomasses are destroyed.


5.Then they confused us by giving various dates in Indian History. Rig Veda is dated between 6000 BC and 900 BC by various foreign scholars! Kalidasa is given a date between 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] century BC and 5[SUP]th[/SUP] century AD. One so called ‘’scholar’’ even fixed the date of Kalidasa in Gupta period and called Kalidasa a Copy Cat! Kalidasa copied a lot from Tamil poets and Prakrit gath Sapta sati, he said! Another ‘’scholar’’ said Kalidasa copied from Asvagosha! I have proved them wrong in my ten part article on Kalidasa and Tamil literature. Kalidasa became world famous because of his new similes and images and not by COPYING!

6.They told us Tamils came from the Mediterranean area and Aryans came from Central Asia. They linked Tamil with Finnish and Turkish! Turkey is full of Vedic monuments. The oldest inscription with names of Vedic Gods was discovered in Turkey-Syria (Bogazkoi) area dated around 1400 BC. The oldest Sanskrit (Mitanni) names are in Syria-Iraq area. Kanchi Shankaracharya said in one of his lectures, ‘’don’t think we went there to spread our religion. It was there all over the world. That is why we call our religion Sanatan Dharma’’.


7. Slowly, cleverly and cunningly they introduced colour skin to Hindu Gods. They said Tamil Skanda/Murugan is different from Aryan Skanda. Tamil Shiva is different from Aryan Rudra! Those who read Tamil hymns will have a good laugh at those ‘SCHOLARS’, where Murugan and Shiva are red and Vishnu is bluish black. They said all villages Gods are of local origin. But the fact of the matter is all names are in Sanskrit! Read Kanchi Paramacharya’s seven part book ‘Voice of the Divine’’ (Deivathin Kural in Tamil).

8. Slowly and cunningly they introduced the word ‘’Interpolations’’. Whenever and wherever they wanted they said ‘’it is interpolated’’. The ever changing language will have something introduced at any time in History by enthusiasts. Then they will take the latest one and date it as 5[SUP]th[/SUP] century or ninth century AD where as the original would have belonged to 5[SUP]th[/SUP] century BC. They did it to all our Puranas and epics.


9. They sowed a seed of doubt about Kaliyuga and challenged all our dates. They projected one Indra in the whole history of Hinduism and attributed everything to him. Indra (king) is a title like Pope, Dalai Lama and Shankaracharya. They made us believe one Indra did all the ‘bad’ things.
10. They take one or two controversial statements from a book they hate and project them as the gist of the book. Manu Dharma Shastra is a typical example. Leaving all the passages where he praised women, they projected him as Anti woman by giving one sloka. They never talk about interpolations in the scriptures of other religions!

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Discovery of Mighty Saraswati river proved Aryan Dravidian Race theory wrong.



Egypt,Babylonia,Greece,China & Israel had Kings

11. They said India knew no king before the Nanda Dynasty leaving a gap for 2300 years in Indian history. Puranas and epics give a long list of kings including the kings who ruled INDUS VALLEY. The foreigners said that they are all not reliable where as Egypt, Babylonia, Greek, Chinese and Israel kings were real! Indians are stupid till this day to retain the old History books. They still think they had no kings before Maurya Chandra Gupta or the Nandas!! Rig Veda, Ramayana, Mahabharata and Puranas give a long list of kings.


12. They wrote Tamil culture is different from ‘’Aryans’’, where as the Sangam literature praises all that is Hindu every 10[SUP]th[/SUP] line. There is no verse or passage without a Sanskrit word or a Hindu theme. I have read all the 30,000 lines umpteen times. I can quote thousands of references about Veda, Hindu Gods Yaga/fire ceremony, Puja etc.

Tamils did not even have a word for heart. They simply used Sanskrit word Hrudaya ( This gave the English word heart and Tamil word iruthayam). Ancient Tamils never hated Sanskrit. They considered Tamil and Sanskrit as two eyes and their literature say both came from Lord Shiva. Foreigners selected the passages which suited them and hid lot of facts about Tamils. Sanskrit also borrowed Tamil words without any hesitation.


13. They made us believe that Indians were migrants where as our old literature say that Indians went to different parts of the world to spread culture and civilization (e.g 1300 year Hindu rule in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma, Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines and Indonesia). Rishis’ names are all over the world Adriatic (Atri Maharishi) sea, Caspian (Kashyapa maharishi) sea, California (Kapila Aranya)! Read my article Is California- Kapila Aranya?. I have based it on Kanchi Shankaracharya’s talk.

14. Foreigners gave credits for all the discoveries and inventions to Greeks and Babylonians contradictory to the facts in our scriptures. Even when they knew the numerals came from India, Chess came from India, they called it Arabic numerals, Persian game!! Deliberate distortions!
15. When passages of violence are in every scripture in the world, every literature in the world, they projected Vedic hymns as violent where as others as ‘Holy wars’. Look at the wordings!! Words like ‘River of blood ‘are found in all the literature. When they ate nothing but meat, they shed crocodile tears for the ‘’millions of creatures’’ sacrificed in the Yaga fire!! They even interpreted Samudra (Ocean) in Rig Veda as a pond! Durga as ‘Indus forts’!! Shiva also destroyed forts like Indra! Is HE a Dravidian or Aryan?


16. When they first excavated Harappa and Mohanjadaro on the banks of Indus (Sindhu) river we called it Indus civilization. Now we have excavated over 200 places in Punjab, Haryana, Rajathan, Gujarat and Delhi. This is the largest of the ancient civilizations. We have explored Dwaraka under sea with artefacts dated 3000 BC. Bhaba Atomic Research Institute scientists have proved the existence of mighty river Saraswati that ran 5000 years ago.All these prove our Puranas, Epics and Vedas were right about our ancient beginnings. As long as one believes in Aryan Dravidian division, everything will be misty, confusing and mysterious.

17. On one hand they insulted, degraded and undervalued all that is Indian, but on the other hand they plundered all our artefacts including Kohinoor diamond. The best of our treasures are in London, Paris and Tehran.

18.They divided the languages of the world as they wished and showed Sanskrit as the youngest of the Indo European group. On the contrary, parents of Sanskrit speakers went to different parts of Europe and gave them languages. It is not vice versa (E.g. Zend Avesta is far down the chronological table.)

19. They confused the Indian intellectuals by wrongly fixing the date for iron and horse. Latest discoveries around the world pushed the date of both back by 5000 to 10000 years. Ayas (Aes in Latin and Pon in Tamil) was used for many metals including iron.

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Discovery of Dwaraka under sea proved Aryan Dravidian race theory wrong.

Insult to Dravidians !

20.From the very beginning they misled the world by saying Indus valley was destroyed by the invading Aryans and Dravdians ran for life to the far south and to the hills!!! They projected Dravidians as ‘’cowards’’ and invading Aryans as ‘’Heroes’’. This is because white skinned foreign ‘’scholars’’ identified themselves with Aryans! They misled the world by saying the Indus language was Dravidian in structure sixty years ago and not a single word is deciphered till this day! Most ridiculous thing is that they have never discovered or disclosed ‘’Aryan and Dravidian skeletons’’ till this day. Now we know 1000s of cities and villages became deserted because of geological changes.

21. Our Puranas and Sangam Tamil literature (see Purananuru Commentary) divided people in to 18 types including Devas, Asuras, Kinnaras, Siddhas, Gandharvas—not Aryas and Dravidas! Our division was on the basis of their virtues and behaviour, not on skin colour or race.


22. If one believes in Aryan Dravidian race theory, one can’t believe in historical Ramayana and Mahabharata! They wouldn’t fit anywhere in the chronology. Aryan Race Theory created Hitler who killed millions of Hindu Gypsies and European Jews. He claimed himself Pure Aryan and used Hindu Swastika in his flags. Westerners realised that their theory was nonsense and buried it. But Indian idiots still keep this theory alive!

23. They confused us about the Vedas. Some scholars said Adharva Veda was earlier than Rig Veda and it belonged to the Dravidians. Some other scholars said it was later one. But Adharva Veda is in Sanskrit. Other scholars confused the world about Zend Avesta. They said it was written before ‘’Aryans migrated to India’’. But the latest linguistic research shows that Atharva Veda and Zend Avesta belonged to a period than Rig Veda.


24. If you are very intelligent and show the ‘’scholars’’ that Aswamedham, Rajasuyam, Soma Rasam, Fire ceremonies, Swayamvaram, caste system, Eight types of marriage, funeral ceremonies, wedding ceremonies are not the same in Indo European areas ,they will say all these were PROBABLY borrowed from Dravidians or Mundas!!! If you are more intelligent and show the ‘’Scholars’’ that certain customs exist in both the areas—from Himalayas to Kanyakumari—they will say PROBABLY they borrowed it from a common source=Pan Indian! In short, they will escape without giving a genuine answer!


Then, What is the truth? Indians went and civilized the barbaric Europeans. The first thing anyone learns will be the language of the cultured people. Without that no one can communicate. Then they grab certain aspects of the culture. India was more civilized than all parts of Europe according to Greeks. The Greeks started writing at least 800 years after the Vedic people. Another fact is mankind is one. We all had the same roots and so certain ancient beliefs and customs are common to all the people. This is known as Santana Dharma (Please read Kanchi Paramacharya’s lectures in Seven Volumes).


When we look at the development of human mind, thinking etc. we see Indians were far advanced than any race or clan. Even before the world started writing a book, we produced Upanishads with highest philosophy.This is another proof that we educated them. Whether it is composing poetry ,writing grammar, writing sex manual, preparing dictionary, solving mathematical problems, charting the stars, writing books, preparing Index, Yoga, Karate, all types of arts—name anything we were first. Babylonian, Egyptian, Sumerian, Greek and Chinese civilizations are in show cases of museum. Hindu civilization is a living civilization.

To justify what I have said above, I have written and posted already over 570 articles touching various aspects of Indus Valley Civilization and Vedic culture. Please read them to understand and appreciate my views fully.


Very soon I will upload 1.SEX IN INDUS VALLEY and 2. ARYAN HITLER & HINDU SWASTIKA.
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I know it is good for our self-confidence to revisit our history. I say that without irony.

But regardless of the glorious past, we should be in touch with the reality of the present. I am not sure we can justify the claim that "Indians were far advanced than any race or clan". Here is a partial list of things Indians did not invent, but which are important for any modern civilization.

Writing, paper, fireworks, written laws / judicial system, consistent record keeping, democracy, constitution, scientific method of experimentation and verification, periodic table, industrial revolution, steam engine, vaccines, telescope, microscope, X-ray, Fermat's theorem, double helix DNA, automobiles, railways, telegraph, telephone, television, computer, satellites, rockets, internet, mobile phones.

Though we have a strong place in world history it was not (and still is not) at the apex of all civilizations. Everybody has had their day in the sun, and we should acquire the humility to appreciate that.
 
Reply in red and some folks may see red. :behindsofa:

Here is a partial list of things Indians did not invent, but which are important for any modern civilization.

arrey what Biswa Saar. we had all these.:p

Writing- Its for lazy folks, we transmitted knowledge through Shrauta tradition

paper- Impending entropy of Kaliyuga took its toll and we were forced to write on bhoja patras and muslin scrolls

fireworks- How can you miss the Kauravas.They were the famous pyromaniacs of their time. Remember Lakshagriha dahan.Also an assortment of various agneya astras.


written laws / judicial system - Way too many smritis and nyaya shastras/delegated judicial system in form of panch parmeshwars.

consistent record keeping- Chitragupta. nuff said. His boss brooks no offence.

democracy- Mahajanapadas/Licchavi republics.

constitution- assuming it to be kelsonian grundnorm- answer would be Vedas.

scientific method of experimentation and verification,double helix DNA,- duh. Trans species organ transplant(Ganesha) and for verification Ghanapatham.

periodic table- duh again. We had mastered transmutation of elements by sankalpa siddhi and prakamya, so who needs a periodic table.

Industrial revolution-its the bane of Kaliyugi mlecchas. We followed environment friendly lifestyle.

Steam automobiles, railways,-Its for pansies. We had mastered quantum teleportation and astral body travel.

Fermat's Last theorem- http://www.mum.edu/pdf_msvs/v03/kapoor.pdf

X-ray, telegraph, telescope, microscope telephone, television, computer, satellites, internet, mobile phones.-Meh. They all get subsumed under ashta siddhis. Door Darshan, Door Shravan and all.

rockets-Ours were way too advanced than todays rockets and instead of chips were controlled by wireless sonic/syllabic transformation.
History of Missile - BrahMos.com
Imagine the man machine interface.Augmented reality and haptics bhi total fail hai.


Though we have a strong place in world history it was not (and still is not) at the apex of all civilizations. Everybody has had their day in the sun, and we should acquire the humility to appreciate that.

Agree in toto:D
 
I know it is good for our self-confidence to revisit our history. I say that without irony.

But regardless of the glorious past, we should be in touch with the reality of the present. I am not sure we can justify the claim that "Indians were far advanced than any race or clan". Here is a partial list of things Indians did not invent, but which are important for any modern civilization.

Writing, paper, fireworks, written laws / judicial system, consistent record keeping, democracy, constitution, scientific method of experimentation and verification, periodic table, industrial revolution, steam engine, vaccines, telescope, microscope, X-ray, Fermat's theorem, double helix DNA, automobiles, railways, telegraph, telephone, television, computer, satellites, rockets, internet, mobile phones.

Though we have a strong place in world history it was not (and still is not) at the apex of all civilizations. Everybody has had their day in the sun, and we should acquire the humility to appreciate that.

WOW, how dare you say such things. You have not read LSji's blog. If it is not been claimed as invented in India, it will be claimed in his next blog entry.
cheen o arab hamara, hindostan hamara..rahne ko ghar nahi hai sara jahan hamara...
Movie: Phir Subah Hogi (1958)

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When History is remanufactured, who cares for facts. Facts are just nuisance in the path of my POV. LOL (This post in written with a sense of humor knowing the cast of Characters).
 
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Dear Delhi 6

Thanks. my articles linking Indian culture with Egypt, Greece, Sumerian, Mayan, Madagascar, Indonesia and Cambodia are already available here or in my blogs. Following science articles also highlight all our achievements:

Is Brahmashtra a Nuclear Weapon?
Maruti Miracle: 660 Kms per Hour
How Did Rama Fly His Pushpaka Vimana/plane?
Time Travel by Two Tamil Saints
Free Charter Flight to Heaven
Teleportation Miracles in Hindu Scriptures
Orbiting the Earth: Skanda beat Yuri Gagarin
God With A Laser Weapon
Hindu God With ‘’An Ipod’’
Scientific Proof for Samudrika Lakshan
Do Hindus believe in ETs and Time Travel?
Bhishma- First Man to Practise Acupuncture
Why Do Hindus Follow Homeopathy?
Hindu Views on Comets
Science behind Swaymbu Lingams
Aladdin’s Magic in Ramayana
Aladdin’s Magic Lamp and Tamil Saints
What is Special About India?
Science Behind Deepavali ( Two Part Article)
Hindus’ Future Predictions ( Two Part Article)
Lie Detector in Upanishads
Head towards North is Wrong
Spaceships and Special Prayer Days
Miracles! You Can Do It
Great Engineers of Ancient India
The Amazing Power of the Human Mind
 
Regarding posts by Delhiji and LSji, I hope some of the responses are light-hearted. I hope if China fires a nuclear missile at us, we don't try to respond with the Brahmashtra from our back pocket!

The problem with all our ancient stuff is everything is hidden in Shrutis and riddles in verses. To pass the threshold of modern science, everything has to repeatable and verifiable independently. That is hard to do when only say 10,000 people even understand Sanskrit.
 
BTW, we are not alone in advocating an Indocentric world view. It applies to our neighbors as well.

The ancient name for China was Zhonghua (China is anglicized) meaning Middle Kingdom. Apparently they had not figured out that the earth was round, without beginning and without end. :)
 
Dear Biswa

I narrate an interesting incident from real life. I was attending a camp. Guruji was using modern tooth paste and tooth brush. One of the campers noticed it. Then came the Q&A session. This innocent boy asked a question how come Guruji is using the tooth brush instead of ancient banyan stick or Neem stick for brushing his teeth. Guruji smiled at him and told him, the concept of using a stick and tooth powder came from us. We taught the world to be civilized. It did not mean that we should not follow any improvement.

If you come to museums in London, it clearly say that the rockets (fire crackers) and the board games were discovered by us and Chinese. When the Western world developed them they went far ahead of us. Instead of Brahmashtra we will use BRAHMOS (ICBM). People miss the point that we gave them the basic concepts.

I went one step ahead and wrote in the post HINDU PREDICTIONS what we have already discovered regarding TIME.

Kanchi Paramacharya went one step ahead and said in 1935 Mylapore lectures:

''People say that they have discovered 93 elements. in course of time they will conclude all came from ONE substance''.

Now particle physics is heading towards that direction.
 
LS ji,

I understand that your posts are well intentioned. But I want to stress that there is difference between theory and practice. Indians have been traditionally good in theory. But in practice, West beats us hands down. Theory is in the minds of an enlightened few. But a practical implementation can touch one and all.
 
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